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Conway Gamecock
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Posted: 10/19/21 11:47 am ::: 2021-22 Top 25 AP Poll Weekly Releases |
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1. South Carolina (14)
2. Connecticut (10)
3. Stanford (5)
4. Maryland
5. North Carolina State
6. Louisville
7. Baylor
8. Indiana
9. Iowa
10. Oregon
11. Michigan
12. Iowa State
13. Kentucky
14. Oregon State
15. Tennessee
16. Florida State
T-17. Ohio State
T-17. Georgia Tech
19. West Virginia
20. UCLA
21. South Florida
22. Arizona
23. Texas A&M
24. Virginia Tech
25. Texas
Receiving Votes:
Georgia 65, Michigan State 63, Florida Gulf Coast 43, Missouri State 18, South Dakota 13, LSU 10, Arkansas 10, Washington State 9, Oklahoma State 8, Notre Dame 8, DePaul 6, Belmont 5, Oklahoma 3, South Dakota State 1
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/associated-press?utm_campaign=trending
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Tally24
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Posted: 10/19/21 12:04 pm ::: |
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Excited to see how LSU does this season, and how long it takes for them, if they do all, to crack the top 25.
Overall, super ready for the season! |
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 10/19/21 1:29 pm ::: |
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Interesting...all three of the OSUs stand out to me as being obivously overrated. Compared to where some other teams in their respective conferences were ranked, I just don't get it. Voters must really respect Scott Rueck, Kevin McGuff and...Jim Littell?
Glad to see WSU getting some votes. I expect them to be ranked at years end.
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Phil
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Posted: 10/23/21 3:32 pm ::: |
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Tally24 wrote: |
Excited to see how LSU does this season, and how long it takes for them, if they do all, to crack the top 25.
Overall, super ready for the season! |
I feel the same way about Duke.
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undersized_post
Joined: 01 Mar 2021 Posts: 2864
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Posted: 11/03/21 2:25 pm ::: |
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For comparison:
WBCA Top-25
USA Today/WBCA Women's Preseason Top 25 (11/3)
1. South Carolina (13)
2. Stanford (13)
3. Connecticut (6)
4. North Carolina State
5. Maryland
6. Louisville
7. Indiana
8. Baylor
9. Oregon
10. Michigan
11. Iowa
12. Tennessee
13. Kentucky
14. UCLA
15. Arizona
16. Iowa State
17. Texas A&M
18. Oregon State
19. Georgia
20. Georgia Tech
21. Texas
22. South Florida
23. West Virginia
24. Florida State
25. Ohio State
A couple observations:
The same 11 teams occupy to the top 11 spots in both polls with the order slightly changed.
For #12-25, 13 of the 14 teams are the same between the two polls with Georgia replacing Virginia Tech in the WBCA poll.
WBCA has the Pac-12 ranked higher than AP, with UCLA and AZ being significantly higher.
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Conway Gamecock
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Posted: 11/03/21 4:03 pm ::: |
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undersized_post wrote: |
For comparison:
WBCA Top-25
USA Today/WBCA Women's Preseason Top 25 (11/3)
1. South Carolina (13)
2. Stanford (13)
3. Connecticut (6)
4. North Carolina State
5. Maryland
6. Louisville
7. Indiana
8. Baylor
9. Oregon
10. Michigan
11. Iowa
12. Tennessee
13. Kentucky
14. UCLA
15. Arizona
16. Iowa State
17. Texas A&M
18. Oregon State
19. Georgia
20. Georgia Tech
21. Texas
22. South Florida
23. West Virginia
24. Florida State
25. Ohio State
A couple observations:
The same 11 teams occupy to the top 11 spots in both polls with the order slightly changed.
For #12-25, 13 of the 14 teams are the same between the two polls with Georgia replacing Virginia Tech in the WBCA poll.
WBCA has the Pac-12 ranked higher than AP, with UCLA and AZ being significantly higher. |
Not sure how these votes go, and what values are given for 1st-place votes, but according to the linked source, both Stanford and Connecticut are tied for 2nd with the same total votes, even though Stanford is tied with #1 South Carolina in 1st-place votes, and CT only has about half of those programs' 1st place votes......
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undersized_post
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Posted: 11/03/21 4:30 pm ::: |
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If you're rated #1 on a ballot you get 25pts
#2 = 24pts
#3 = 23 pts
...etc...
#24 = 2 pts
#25 = 1 pt.
Then points for each team are summed.
Thirteen ballots had Stanford at #1 while only six had UConn at #1. So for Stanford and UConn to have both accumulated 763 rank points, that also means more ballots must have had Stanford at #3 than UConn at #3.
In other words, the ballots that didn't have UConn at #1 mostly put them at #2. But the ballots that didn't put Stanford at #1 were equally likely to put them at #2 or #3.
I probably could have written that more clearly but... words.
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osubeavers
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Posted: 11/03/21 5:05 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
Interesting...all three of the OSUs stand out to me as being obivously overrated. Compared to where some other teams in their respective conferences were ranked, I just don't get it. Voters must really respect Scott Rueck, Kevin McGuff and...Jim Littell?
Glad to see WSU getting some votes. I expect them to be ranked at years end. |
I don’t see Oregon State at 14 as “overrated”. We shall see.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 11/03/21 5:17 pm ::: |
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osubeavers wrote: |
PickledGinger wrote: |
Interesting...all three of the OSUs stand out to me as being obivously overrated. Compared to where some other teams in their respective conferences were ranked, I just don't get it. Voters must really respect Scott Rueck, Kevin McGuff and...Jim Littell?
Glad to see WSU getting some votes. I expect them to be ranked at years end. |
I don’t see Oregon State at 14 as “overrated”. We shall see. |
Me neither. Beavs have more length than ever before, and a surprising amount of depth – especially in the post. Kennedy Brown coming back healthy should work wonders on both sides of the ball.
Between the three "OSU"s, I only find Oklahoma State overrated here, but how overrated are you if you're only receiving a single-digit amount of votes in the poll? At any rate, it's hard to quantify the value of a preseason poll anyway.
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ucbart
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Posted: 11/03/21 6:05 pm ::: |
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Does anyone else think ND is being way overlooked this year?
That team has some talent on it-some of it very young, but how is Texas ranked and they're not?
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undersized_post
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Posted: 11/03/21 6:24 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
Does anyone else think ND is being way overlooked this year?
That team has some talent on it-some of it very young, but how is Texas ranked and they're not? |
Agree that ND has potential to be dangerous, but key word is "young." Still need to prove themselves. But a couple of good wins is all it should take to crack the top 25 and stay there for the foreseeable future... as in, for multiple seasons.
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myrtle
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Posted: 11/03/21 6:26 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
Does anyone else think ND is being way overlooked this year?
That team has some talent on it-some of it very young, but how is Texas ranked and they're not? |
I am curious about them with everybody back except Walker, their two highly rated Freshmen, and Dodson who will help give them depth in the post. But it's also hard to overcome such a horrible season as last year.
Anyway as far as Texas, I think a lot of pollsters just make assumptions based on last year and forget about who they lost.
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NoDakSt
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Posted: 11/03/21 7:00 pm ::: |
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Watch out for BYU as well. Figured they might receive some votes, at the leastest.
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RHSibley
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Posted: 11/04/21 7:14 am ::: |
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osubeavers wrote: |
PickledGinger wrote: |
Interesting...all three of the OSUs stand out to me as being obivously overrated. Compared to where some other teams in their respective conferences were ranked, I just don't get it. Voters must really respect Scott Rueck, Kevin McGuff and...Jim Littell?
Glad to see WSU getting some votes. I expect them to be ranked at years end. |
I don’t see Oregon State at 14 as “overrated”. We shall see. |
While I respect the Pac-12, I cannot say that I am a fan of that conference. However, Oregon State is my favorite team in that conference, and it is due to Rueck.
A few years ago he took over the OSU program that had been almost destroyed by one very abusive coach. I was reading a lot about the program back then as to what had happened, who they would hire to replace her, and what would happen to the program. It did not take long for him to do miracles.
This season, with a full preseason under their belt unlike last season, this should be a fun year! Go Beavers!
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myrtle
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Posted: 11/04/21 12:52 pm ::: |
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RHSibley wrote: |
osubeavers wrote: |
PickledGinger wrote: |
Interesting...all three of the OSUs stand out to me as being obivously overrated. Compared to where some other teams in their respective conferences were ranked, I just don't get it. Voters must really respect Scott Rueck, Kevin McGuff and...Jim Littell?
Glad to see WSU getting some votes. I expect them to be ranked at years end. |
I don’t see Oregon State at 14 as “overrated”. We shall see. |
While I respect the Pac-12, I cannot say that I am a fan of that conference. However, Oregon State is my favorite team in that conference, and it is due to Rueck.
A few years ago he took over the OSU program that had been almost destroyed by one very abusive coach. I was reading a lot about the program back then as to what had happened, who they would hire to replace her, and what would happen to the program. It did not take long for him to do miracles.
This season, with a full preseason under their belt unlike last season, this should be a fun year! Go Beavers! |
Yes, it is so fun to watch when a new coach can come in and turn a program around. Love what Rueck has done, and Adia Barnes. Now looking to see if WSU can maintain momentum, and what the new coach at Washington can do. It's not easy when there are already established good teams in your conference.
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pilight
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Posted: 11/15/21 1:22 pm ::: |
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https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-womens-college-basketball-poll
South Carolina still #1
Maryland up to #3
Texas up to #12
Kentucky down to #19
Same 25 teams as last week
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Posted: 11/15/21 1:33 pm ::: |
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Louisville still ranked ahead of Arizona might have been worth a mention.
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Posted: 11/15/21 2:15 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Louisville still ranked ahead of Arizona might have been worth a mention. |
I agree. The first poll was the preseason poll, where a lot of assumptions are made. It's not like the rankings are based on anything that has actually happened this year. Arizona should definitely be ranked ahead of the Louisville Cardinals. Now, if that had happened in late January after a ton of games had already been played and resumes built, I can see Arizona not leapfrogging them. But that isn't the case.
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Posted: 11/15/21 3:41 pm ::: |
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Speaking of Kim Mulkey — albeit tangentially now —, (and I say this as someone in a Baylor family) Baylor has no business being ranked all the way up at 6.
They have no clue what they're doing right now. Their inefficient guards are taking a zillion shots and turning the ball over while their two best players hang out in the paint hoping someone notices. Probably inevitable, but disheartening.
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