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Posted: 01/15/18 2:58 pm ::: |
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UFAs (*LAS= LA Sparks, LAV= Las Vegas Aces):
Danielle Adams - doubtful she's in shape, doesn't get signed.
Matee Ajavon - signs with ATL
Alana Beard - unless she's retired, signs with LAS
Jessica Breland - stays with CHI
Rebekkah Brunson - stays with MIN
Monique Currie - retired
Ha Eun Joo - really?
Sandrine Gruda - only LAS would sign her if she plays.
Allison Hightower - could be a decent back-up SF with WAS, ATL
Zofia Hruscakova - nope.
Tiffany Jackson-Jones - Agler should keep her over Gruda.
Shenise Johnson - I'd bet she goes elsewhere, possibly PHX or NYL.
Lynetta Kizer - could go elsewhere with Ogwumike back, possibly SEA or MIN
Ivory Latta - stays with WAS
Camille Little - stays with PHX
Sancho Lyttle - goes elsewhere, possibly MIN, SEA or WAS
Alex Montgomery - likely stays with LAV
Renee Montgomery - stays with MIN
Aneka Morello - stays with ATL
Shay Murphy - doubtful to sign anywhere, 2017 was a bust.
Emmeline Ndongue - really?
Courtney Paris - stays with DAL, even if Cambage comes over.
Kayla Pedersen - can only see her staying in CON if they need her.
Jia Perkins - retired?
Plenette Pierson - retired
Jeanette Pohlen-Mavunga - rotation guard with an injury history, someone will bring her in.
Cappie Pondexter - rumors are she wants out of CHI, maybe to LAS of Beard retires?
Noelle Quinn - can only see SEA taking her back.
Jennie Simms - ehhh
Shekinna Stricklen - stays with CON
Carolyn Swords - wasteful in SEA, maybe Laimbeer brings her LAV? or she goes back to NYL?
Diandra Tchatchouang - really?
Kia Vaughn - if Swords comes back to NYL, she's gone. Maybe IND, SEA or MIN?
Tanisha Wright - retired
Tamera Young - stays in ATL |
Where is that coming from >? Moe retiring ?
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Shades
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Shades
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Posted: 01/15/18 3:47 pm ::: |
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Ha Eun Joo
Zofia Hruscakova
Emmeline Ndongue
Diandra Tchatchouang
Don't know why names like this cropped up. Usually they only list the unrestricted free agents who played last year. Otherwise the list could be near-infinitely long. Mytle is unrestricted free agent.
I guess Cambage is still under the rookie contract. There was some debate about that. Otherwise she'd be listed somewhere.
Reeve's not coring anybody. Not giving a qualifying offer to Katrina Elhotova. Stumbling already or does she have a plan that doesn't involve Elhotova, Montgomery, or Perkins?
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Randy
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Posted: 01/15/18 3:51 pm ::: |
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This is a pretty weak UFA class. Given the expected retirements and players likely to stay with their current teams, it is hard to see a team made up of the UFA's even making the playoffs.
Here is my starting 5, excluding Brunson and Montgomery who I think will stay with MN. If those two were to move, I put Brunson the starting lineup and move Breland and to the bench. Cappie/Montgomery would probably split time at PG.
Breland
Stricklen
Paris
S. Johnson
Pondexter
Bench
Young
Swords
Perkins
Latta
Lytltle
Of course, this team probably would have salary cap problems.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 01/15/18 4:44 pm ::: |
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OK here is a sign and trade prediction based on the above
K. Bone sign and traded to LV for #13 pick
Laimbeer originally drafted Bone, she had a decent rookie season in NY, #13 in this draft is just valuable enough that PX won't feel robbed, and PX probably doesn't want to pay Bone anything anyway. Seems very much like a Laimbeer kind of trade. Bone delivers the goods with a new lease on her career trader Bill looks like a genius, it doesn't work out he didn't give up too much, and can focus on Wilson.
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toad455
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Posted: 01/15/18 6:23 pm ::: |
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Bone needs to hope there's a team out there that won't put up with her attitude and give her a second chance.
What's the chance Dupree heads back to Phoenix with Bonner? Everything thinks Bonner will end up in Indiana. Dupree to Phoenix for Little? Phoenix doesn't have much to offer right now.
I tend to think Johnson will want out of Indiana and play on a better team. Indiana will likely be another lottery team after 2018.
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Shades
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Posted: 01/15/18 6:34 pm ::: |
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If Bonner were to stay in PHX, would Dupree at Las Vegas (300 mi) be close enough?
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miller40
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Posted: 01/15/18 6:53 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
What's the chance Dupree heads back to Phoenix with Bonner? |
From things I've heard around Indy, there's very little chance. Although I fully admit someone with more insider knowledge than me might have heard otherwise.
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Randy
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Posted: 01/15/18 6:55 pm ::: |
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Seems like if Phoenix wanted to keep DuPre they wouldn't have traded her.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 01/15/18 10:03 pm ::: |
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My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out.
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Shades
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Posted: 01/15/18 10:12 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out. |
Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 01/15/18 10:17 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out. |
Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play. |
Yes but I think both of them being cored will really limit their ability to end up together. And I'm not sure they will both play if they are not able to also be with their children regularly. I doubt they both play if they are in different cities, even cities that are not too far apart. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they both want to play, and play on the same team.
The right trade or trades might be out there but I'm not confident that it will work out. When players are cored, of a certain age, and you know they want to be together how much leverage does the team with that player have in a trade. (Unless the ground work for the trade is already in place and the coring was just a formality.)
Bonner to Indy for #14 and Coleman
Dupree to PX for Cannon and #20
Even something like that seems a little expensive
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myrtle
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Posted: 01/16/18 12:24 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
If Bonner were to stay in PHX, would Dupree at Las Vegas (300 mi) be close enough? |
With the W scheduling, it's still pretty hard to spend time together....even though Vegas tends to be a cheap and quick airline trip, so might be doable in one sense, there's still who's on the road and who's at home. And I would think the distraction would also be a negative...
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Posted: 01/16/18 1:11 am ::: |
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There's also the little matter of Laimbeer liking defense and physical play. Does that sound like DuPree?
Did anyone suggest Bone for DuPree yet? I thought I saw it somewhere. Aging talent for high maintenance but still young talent.
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Randy
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Posted: 01/16/18 8:19 am ::: |
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Bone for Dupre sounds like a Toxic Asset Relief Program.....
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toad455
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Posted: 01/16/18 8:31 am ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Bone for Dupre sounds like a Toxic Asset Relief Program..... |
What's the status of Bone? Does Phoenix own her rights?
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Randy
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Posted: 01/16/18 9:22 am ::: |
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She is RFA, Mercury have her rights.
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toad455
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Posted: 01/16/18 9:50 am ::: |
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Bone is better than any backup they had last season, so unless they trade her to get Dupree back, maybe the Mercury keep her?
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toad455
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Posted: 01/16/18 10:45 am ::: |
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The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal?
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Randy
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Posted: 01/16/18 11:03 am ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal? |
Mostly agree except I think max money is not that hard to come by.
NY fans seems to undervalue Hartley, but teams won't. I think she gets max money.
Howard could also get max if she is willing to move.
I think maybe Hooper stays with the Sky and gives them another target for Sloot's passes. Wouldn't mind having her back on the Dream.[/b]
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RavenDog
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Posted: 01/16/18 5:55 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out. |
Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play. |
5 months...It's not like a lifetime.
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 01/16/18 7:12 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
toad455 wrote: |
The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal? |
Mostly agree except I think max money is not that hard to come by.
NY fans seems to undervalue Hartley, but teams won't. I think she gets max money.
Howard could also get max if she is willing to move.
I think maybe Hooper stays with the Sky and gives them another target for Sloot's passes. Wouldn't mind having her back on the Dream.[/b] |
I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision.
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Shades
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Posted: 01/16/18 7:17 pm ::: |
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I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision. |
It's not a tough decision.
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 01/16/18 7:22 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision. |
It's not a tough decision. |
You think they would let T-Ho walk?
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Shades
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Posted: 01/16/18 7:23 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision. |
It's not a tough decision. |
You think they would let T-Ho walk? |
No, she's a lock. Read through the Minny thread.
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