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toad455
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Posted: 07/19/17 11:08 am ::: |
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Well, we have to be grateful that ESPN is paying the league to televise games. However, I've been saying for years that we need a second TV partner. More exposure the better for the league. Oh, and Twitter doesn't count.
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StevenHW
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Posted: 07/19/17 2:39 pm ::: |
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ClayK, in part, wrote: |
...I don't notice anything particularly unflattering or negative about the ESPN coverage, but maybe I'm missing some things. What specifically is ESPN doing that's bad for the WNBA? |
I find it intriguing that ESPN coverage on a WNBA game will sometimes include mentioning about non-basketball aspects of WNBA players or finding a human interest angle. Yet, some RebKellers here hate this type of trivial reporting. For example, one or two seasons ago, ESPN reporter LaChina Robinson talked about a player's hat collection during a game. The camera even showed some of that player's hats. (I don't recall the player's name, though) And there was some discussion on these boards about why ESPN had to mention that.
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WNBA 09
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Richyyy
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Posted: 07/19/17 2:57 pm ::: |
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Pretty sure it was Holly Rowe who did the piece on Carson's hats, rather than LaChina. It wasn't the item in and of itself that people objected to - it was that it didn't fit into the time they gave it, and late in a close game we missed game action while they were pissing about with the hats. Then I think they tried to split-screen the game and the end of the hat piece because it wasn't quite done. It was just a mess. That's the sort of crap people don't liike (whether in national or local broadcasts).
I don't think ESPN's TV coverage is too bad these days either, now that Carolyn Peck is finally gone. It's the number of games shown (we'd obviously like more) and their dismal online coverage of the League that's disappointing. |
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awhom111
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Posted: 07/25/17 8:43 pm ::: |
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Sometimes we actually have ratings in this thread...
The All Star Game averaged 606,000 viewers. Compare that to the regular season and most of the playoffs and you can see why it will continue to happen. |
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 07/25/17 10:36 pm ::: |
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awhom111 wrote: |
Sometimes we actually have ratings in this thread...
The All Star Game averaged 606,000 viewers. Compare that to the regular season and most of the playoffs and you can see why it will continue to happen. |
ASG was on ABC. The reg season games are mostly NBA TV (Paid extra) or ESPN2 which arent that many so of course the viewership would be higher.
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ClayK
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Posted: 07/26/17 10:30 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
awhom111 wrote: |
Sometimes we actually have ratings in this thread...
The All Star Game averaged 606,000 viewers. Compare that to the regular season and most of the playoffs and you can see why it will continue to happen. |
ASG was on ABC. The reg season games are mostly NBA TV (Paid extra) or ESPN2 which arent that many so of course the viewership would be higher. |
I wonder what the viewership would be for Sparks-Lynx on ABC, with the same amount of hype.
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 07/26/17 10:58 am ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
awhom111 wrote: |
Sometimes we actually have ratings in this thread...
The All Star Game averaged 606,000 viewers. Compare that to the regular season and most of the playoffs and you can see why it will continue to happen. |
ASG was on ABC. The reg season games are mostly NBA TV (Paid extra) or ESPN2 which arent that many so of course the viewership would be higher. |
I wonder what the viewership would be for Sparks-Lynx on ABC, with the same amount of hype. |
Game 1 last year although the hype was not the same , Until after A. Beards shot !
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 07/26/17 6:41 pm ::: |
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This was Sports Media Watch's comments:
"It was one of the better All-Star games in league history, but the WNBA’s midseason showcase struggled to find an audience.
The WNBA All-Star Game earned a 0.4 final rating and 606,000 viewers on ABC Saturday afternoon, down 20% in ratings and 19% in viewership from 2015, when coverage aired on both ESPN and ABC (0.55, 746K), but up a tick and 28% respectively from 2014, when the game aired on ESPN alone (0.3, 475K). There was no game last year due to the Olympics.
It was the fourth-least watched WNBA All-Star Game ever (14 games dating back to 1999), ahead of only 2014 (475K), 2006 (501K) and 2009 (475K). Keep in mind that does not include the WNBA vs. USA Basketball exhibitions in Olympic years.
Despite the lower numbers, Saturday’s telecast delivered the largest WNBA audience on any network since the 2015 All-Star Game — topping every game of the past two WNBA Finals, both of which went the full five games."
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 07/26/17 7:27 pm ::: |
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Funny i seem to believe 2014 was actually one of the Best ASGs I've ever seen.
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Posted: 07/26/17 8:07 pm ::: |
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Funny i seem to believe 2014 was actually one of the Best ASGs I've ever seen. |
Best one in ages, because it actually felt like a contest, and some clutch plays didn't hurt either.
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awhom111
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Posted: 07/26/17 8:42 pm ::: |
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Liberty-Lynx averaged 188,000 viewers. Exhibition soccer (with two clubs that are below the top tier in terms of name recognition) averaged 298,000 viewers on ESPN at the same time. |
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awhom111
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Posted: 08/11/17 8:42 pm ::: |
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Mercury-Wings averaged 144,000 viewers.
For those of you who wish the game was on ESPN, the Little League Baseball regional games on at the same time averaged 606,000 and 708,000 viewers. |
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awhom111
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Posted: 08/17/17 11:42 pm ::: |
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Sparks-Mystics averaged 170,000 viewers. Little League Softball after the game averaged 360,000 viewers. |
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awhom111
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Posted: 09/07/17 8:59 pm ::: |
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The second game averaged 243,000 viewers. The first game was not among the top 150 cable broadcasts among 18 to 49 year olds so we are unlikely to ever get that number. |
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/08/17 9:08 am ::: |
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awhom111 wrote: |
The second game averaged 243,000 viewers. The first game was not among the top 150 cable broadcasts among 18 to 49 year olds so we are unlikely to ever get that number. |
Another reason the first round is one-and-done ...
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awhom111
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Posted: 09/14/17 11:49 pm ::: |
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Game 1 of Mercury-Sparks averaged 311,000 viewers. The other game and the Sunday games were not in the top 150 cable broadcasts among 18 to 49 year olds so we should not expect those numbers.
For those curious, programming on ESPN during the Tuesday games had these average viewers:
8:00-9:30: 1,231,000
9:30-10:00: 832,000
10:00-11:00: 779,000
11:00-12:00: 690,000 |
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awhom111
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Posted: 09/15/17 7:24 pm ::: |
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Mystics-Lynx averaged 244,000 viewers and Mercury-Sparks averaged 222,000 viewers.
At approximately the same time, New Mexico-Boise State football averaged 1,053,000 viewers on ESPN and the NFL game on NFL Network averaged 8,080,000 viewers. |
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awhom111
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Posted: 09/19/17 11:28 pm ::: |
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Sparks-Mercury averaged 254,000 viewers. The first game did not make the day's top 150 cable broadcasts among those ages 18 through 49 so we are out of luck. |
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pilight
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Posted: 09/25/17 1:44 pm ::: |
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http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2017/09/buzzer-beater-wnba-finals-game-1-delivers-best-overnight-ever/
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Game 1 of the 2017 WNBA Finals, which aired Sunday, Sept. 24, on ABC delivered a 0.6 overnight rating, the best overnight ever for a Game 1 on the ESPN networks. The matchup between the Minnesota Lynx and the Los Angeles Sparks resulted in a +20% increase from last year’s Game 1. |
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/25/17 1:49 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2017/09/buzzer-beater-wnba-finals-game-1-delivers-best-overnight-ever/
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Game 1 of the 2017 WNBA Finals, which aired Sunday, Sept. 24, on ABC delivered a 0.6 overnight rating, the best overnight ever for a Game 1 on the ESPN networks. The matchup between the Minnesota Lynx and the Los Angeles Sparks resulted in a +20% increase from last year’s Game 1. |
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Good news ... the NFL slate wasn't spectacular, and football may be struggling a little, given everything that's going on.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 09/25/17 2:04 pm ::: |
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The top five markets were: Nashville (4.6); Minneapolis (1.9); Birmingham (1.2); Hartford-New Haven (1.3); and Knoxville (1.1). Los Angeles delivered a 0.7 metered market rating. |
Why the hell has this league never managed to place a team somewhere, anywhere, in Tennessee? |
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Shades
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Posted: 09/25/17 2:21 pm ::: |
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Is Nashville watching because they love the Vols as a in-state brotherly thing, or do they hate the Vols and hope Parker falls flat on her face? Maybe some of both depending on the individual?
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/25/17 3:47 pm ::: |
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The top five markets were: Nashville (4.6); Minneapolis (1.9); Birmingham (1.2); Hartford-New Haven (1.3); and Knoxville (1.1). Los Angeles delivered a 0.7 metered market rating. |
Why the hell has this league never managed to place a team somewhere, anywhere, in Tennessee? |
Since the league is driven by TV potential, the small markets in Tennessee are a killer.
That said, Tennessee is big for girls' basketball, though the worship of the holy LVs has declined in recent years.
There's a nice arena in Nashville but my limited knowledge of Tennessee dredges up something about Vanderbilt not liking UT, Nashville/Knoxville rivalry. Maybe that's part of it ...
And of course, some owners have to be willing to lose $5 million or so in the first five years for a franchise that will have zero value on the open market.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 09/25/17 4:05 pm ::: |
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But from what I remember, the league made a pretty signifcant push to find an owner in Atlanta so that they could put a team there, and the same thing may well have happened with Chicago. When they want a team in City X for commercial reasons, they make an effort to get one there.
As you've said yourself ClayK, WNBA interest tends to be centered around places with a team (for obvious reasons), but it seems like there's interest in Tennessee already. Surely Nashville or Memphis could support a team if they could ferret out an owner from somewhere. |
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