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bullsky
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:01 am ::: |
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Dallas Wings waive captain Erin Phillips in surprising move to finalize roster
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/wnba/2017/05/10/dallas-wings-waive-veteran-guard-erin-phillips-finalize-roster
Just like Kahleah Copper, this guy may be assuming it's the last move because the roster is at 12.
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"That is definitely a huge surprise," Wings guard Skylar Diggins-Smith said before she was inducted into the Boys and Girls Club Hall of Fame at a ceremony Wednesday. "Erin is somebody who has been in this league for a long time. Two-time champion, somebody that I have so much respect for as a woman and as an athlete." |
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Copper?
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RavenDog
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:03 am ::: |
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Erin Phillips waived by WNBA club Dallas Wings, next step uncertain
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/erin-phillips-waived-by-wnba-club-dallas-wings-next-step-uncertain-20170510-gw2648.html
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The move has been a shock with Phillips' defence and leadership strongly admired by her Wings teammates. |
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Under the WNBA rules, Phillips will go onto waivers for a few days which gives teams a chance to pick her up immediately. She will then become a free agent and any club could sign her.
But at this time of year clubs are continuously waiving players to cut down their own rosters which could make it tough for her to be immediately picked up.
Phillips and her wife Tracy and their twins would also have to move cities should she be signed by another club.
So Phillips may need to wait a few weeks before injuries or some other problem makes another WNBA club look her way.
Opals guard Rachel Jarry has also been waived from the Atlanta Dream's roster. Like Opals teammate Phillips she will be hoping another club could need her talents. |
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Yes, good move. I was hoping they'd waive her but really didn't expect them to do so.
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tfan
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:03 am ::: |
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Hmm... Williams says he was impressed by Chong when she was a freshman in college.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:05 am ::: |
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Saniya Chong Impressing Her Coaches Early
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“And she got more minutes than any other point guard that went into the pros.” |
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Hmmmm.....
2016/17 minutes played/minutes per game avg
Allen 1279/34.6
Epps 1197/36.3
Peterson 1174/35.6
Chong 1084/31.0
There might be others. That's all I checked. And of course that ignores that all of these others played for four years and didn't spend three years sitting on the pine. The career numbers would be ridiculous mismatches.
Someone needs to do more homework. No wonder he makes some head scratching decisions.
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RavenDog
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:14 am ::: |
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tfan wrote: |
Hmm... Williams says he was impressed by Chong when she was a freshman in college. |
Never had a doubt she would make this team. She's much better than most people gave her credit for. Then, of course, there are a few prominent posters who discredit most or all players - you know who they are.
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BamaEd
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:20 am ::: |
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OK, so, who needs a good solid veteran PG/SG off the bench with championship experience?
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pilight
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:21 am ::: |
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I told myself I wouldn't comment anymore, but I can't resist. So you guys still think these GM's and coaches pick the best talent for rosters? |
Sometimes it's about effort. Lazy talent is worse than useless. Sometimes it's about who plays well with others. Sometimes it's about attitude. Like any line of work, hiring choices are based on more than just talent and aptitude.
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long.
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sigur3
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:53 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
I told myself I wouldn't comment anymore, but I can't resist. So you guys still think these GM's and coaches pick the best talent for rosters? |
Sometimes it's about effort. Lazy talent is worse than useless. Sometimes it's about who plays well with others. Sometimes it's about attitude. Like any line of work, hiring choices are based on more than just talent and aptitude.
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long. |
Also, maybe these people who run a professional basketball league see something that we fans posting on a message board don't.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:54 am ::: |
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Speaking of Feyonda, you can add her to the list of "got more minutes than Chong despite what Fred thinks".
Feyonda Fitzgerald 1139/39.6.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 05/11/17 10:56 am ::: |
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Also, maybe these people who run a professional basketball league see something that we fans posting on a message board don't. |
Like budgets and financial statements. Maybe they can save a few bucks by cutting a vet and keeping a rookie to fill out the bench.
The margins are pretty thin it seems for these WNBA franchises. Every dollar counts.
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tfan
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Posted: 05/11/17 11:09 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long. |
You have criticized her for not being good enough to start. So how do you know she was "sent packing" (do we know that every move was not her choice - I seem to remember a trade request to Dallas where she had a home?) for "baggage" and not talent level?
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zvyn3
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Posted: 05/11/17 11:11 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
I told myself I wouldn't comment anymore, but I can't resist. So you guys still think these GM's and coaches pick the best talent for rosters? |
Sometimes it's about effort. Lazy talent is worse than useless. Sometimes it's about who plays well with others. Sometimes it's about attitude. Like any line of work, hiring choices are based on more than just talent and aptitude.
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long. |
What baggage?
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pilight
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Posted: 05/11/17 11:23 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
I told myself I wouldn't comment anymore, but I can't resist. So you guys still think these GM's and coaches pick the best talent for rosters? |
Sometimes it's about effort. Lazy talent is worse than useless. Sometimes it's about who plays well with others. Sometimes it's about attitude. Like any line of work, hiring choices are based on more than just talent and aptitude.
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long. |
Also, maybe these people who run a professional basketball league see something that we fans posting on a message board don't. |
True. We basement dwellers don't know everything.
_________________ I'm sick and tired of the stories that you always tell
Shakespeare couldn't tell a story that well
See, you're the largest liar that was ever created
You and Pinocchio are probably related
Full of criss-crossed fits, you lie all the time
Your tongue should be embarrassed, you're a threat to mankind
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zvyn3
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bullsky
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Posted: 05/11/17 3:24 pm ::: |
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https://youtu.be/v9x9wPdLVhg
Footage from saturdays game vs Indiana
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 05/11/17 5:00 pm ::: |
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sigur3 wrote: |
Also, maybe these people who run a professional basketball league see something that we fans posting on a message board don't. |
And maybe they're just hallucinating things like "“And she [Chong] got more minutes than any other point guard that went into the pros.”
Does that give you confidence about their judgments when it is based on measurably false assumptions?
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linkster
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RavenDog
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Posted: 05/11/17 5:59 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
I told myself I wouldn't comment anymore, but I can't resist. So you guys still think these GM's and coaches pick the best talent for rosters? |
Sometimes it's about effort. Lazy talent is worse than useless. Sometimes it's about who plays well with others. Sometimes it's about attitude. Like any line of work, hiring choices are based on more than just talent and aptitude.
Talent will get you opportunities. Erin Phillips has had her share. Five teams now, and every one sent her packing after a year or three. That suggests her talent isn't worth the baggage for very long. |
+1 Right on the button.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 05/11/17 9:03 pm ::: |
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Erin OK with Dallas decision
YESTERDAY's shock news Dallas Wings released 2016-17 co-captain and the Opals' Rio Olympics starter Erin Phillips troubled everyone except the dual-WNBA champion.
While Phillips, 31, is not free to discuss her situation until she comes off waivers - giving other WNBA clubs a chance to swoop on the multi-talented combo guard - she confided it was a good decision moving forward. |
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/erin-ok-with-dallas-decision/
? That's ... interesting
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Richyyy
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Posted: 05/11/17 9:23 pm ::: |
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Maybe she's just as happy to get paid for sitting on her couch as she is to get paid for playing basketball. |
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