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ucbart
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summertime blues
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CamrnCrz1974
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 04/17/17 11:46 am ::: |
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Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"?
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mzonefan
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Posted: 04/17/17 12:02 pm ::: |
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Michigan at #21 feels good to me, but PG is a huge problem unless KBA finds someone this late period.
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summertime blues
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dinkytown
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Posted: 04/17/17 1:02 pm ::: |
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mzonefan wrote: |
Michigan at #21 feels good to me, but PG is a huge problem unless KBA finds someone this late period. |
This article makes it seem like Kysre is coming back but isn't she transferring?
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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2829 Location: New York
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Posted: 04/17/17 2:07 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"? |
Charlie is a journalist and clearly a WCBB expert. Maybe this is his honest opinion.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 04/17/17 2:21 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"? |
Charlie is a journalist and clearly a WCBB expert. Maybe this is his honest opinion. |
He's not a WCBB "expert". Never has been. That the problem. They need something for him to do when he's not crunching bracketology numbers, so he plays "expert".
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summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7865 Location: Shenandoah Valley
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Posted: 04/17/17 5:46 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"? |
Charlie is a journalist and clearly a WCBB expert. Maybe this is his honest opinion. |
He's not an expert, but he plays one on TV.
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linkster
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Posted: 04/17/17 6:02 pm ::: |
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ESPN wcbb coverage is primarily concerned with how many hits they can generate on their website. Creme is just as interested in being provocative than in making insightful predictions. So every year the LV's, based on their perennial talent are picked to go far. Why? Because even though they have become the poster child of under performance they still have a huge following nationwide. But if Tenn teaches me anything it's that predicting a team's prospects based on talent alone is foolish.
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mzonefan
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Posted: 04/17/17 9:31 pm ::: |
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dinkytown wrote: |
mzonefan wrote: |
Michigan at #21 feels good to me, but PG is a huge problem unless KBA finds someone this late period. |
This article makes it seem like Kysre is coming back but isn't she transferring? |
Obviously he was just looking at stats and hadn't followed the WNIT run without her. The team was better for it.
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ridor
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 1055 Location: Frederick, Maryland
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Posted: 04/18/17 2:46 am ::: |
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Also considered Virginia. That surprised the **** out of me.
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patsweetpat
Joined: 14 Jul 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Culver City, CA
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Posted: 04/18/17 11:06 am ::: |
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Wow, no Oregon State at all. Not even as "Also Considered". They're the #4 RPI team in the country at this moment in time (#8 in Massey, #14 in Sagarin), but they merit nary a mention for the season to come.
That strikes me as one heck of an oversight.
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12608 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 04/18/17 11:35 am ::: |
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patsweetpat wrote: |
Wow, no Oregon State at all. Not even as "Also Considered". They're the #4 RPI team in the country at this moment in time (#8 in Massey, #14 in Sagarin), but they merit nary a mention for the season to come.
That strikes me as one heck of an oversight. |
Blame Sabrina and those highly talented Ducks , there most likely going to own the Pac 12 for the next few years running unless Stanford does what they normally do . ORst had there glory years they might have come to an end.
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 04/18/17 2:15 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"? |
Without looking, what "basic facts" did Creme get wrong?
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 04/18/17 2:55 pm ::: |
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CamrnCrz1974 wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
Yeah, but even if we ignore that some of the rankings are just silly, you'd like to see them at least try to get basic facts complete and correct.
Is this a "well at least they're writing something about WCBB," or "another example that ESPN doesn't give a damn about WCBB"? |
Without looking, what "basic facts" did Creme get wrong? |
I'm not about to detail them team by team, but just using Notre Dame as an example, how do you contemplate their prospects for next year without mentioning Lilli Thompson's transfer from Stanford, or the arrival of two freshmen bigs (particularly in light of the departure of Boley (acknowledged) and Patberg (not mentioned) which makes the additions particularly critical). And the statement "Mychal Johnson looks like the heir apparent [to Lindsay Allen]" is unlikely at best. You can't possibly get Notre Dame to #5 without considering the new players, and frankly with the uncertainty surrounding Turner, I'm not sure you can get them to five at this stage at all.
There are similar errors and oversights elsewhere. Where you rank teams is a matter of opinion (although I think some of those opinions are pretty unrealistic), but having misstatements or glaring omissions as the basis for your opinion is just sloppy.
Just as an aside, I think his Texas write up may be the worst. Basically everything he wrote about was also true for Texas this year, and yet they weren't even close to being #4. I'm looking for the explanation of what transformation is supposed to happen to make all of their weaknesses vanish over the summer.
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scfastpitch
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Posted: 04/18/17 3:04 pm ::: |
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In the South Carolina section he said "Alaina Coates is also gone, which means Staley has to replace three of her top three scorers. " Huh? I'm sure he meant to say three of her top 4 (since Aja Wilson is returning) . Just poor editing , I guess .
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Phil
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Posted: 04/18/17 3:50 pm ::: |
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It looks like a minor editorial issue with an extraneous word. Had he said "Staley has to replace three of her top scorers." it would be fine. Somehow, an extra "three" slipped in.
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Phil
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Posted: 04/18/17 4:08 pm ::: |
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patsweetpat wrote: |
Wow, no Oregon State at all. Not even as "Also Considered". They're the #4 RPI team in the country at this moment in time (#8 in Massey, #14 in Sagarin), but they merit nary a mention for the season to come.
That strikes me as one heck of an oversight. |
I think they will drop a fair bit post Wiese, but not likely to be out of top 25. So I agree.
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Ay Mate
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Posted: 04/18/17 4:45 pm ::: |
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ridor wrote: |
Also considered Virginia. That surprised the **** out of me. |
Does "****" stand for hearing aid?
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18064 Location: Queens
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Posted: 04/18/17 10:06 pm ::: |
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Ay Mate wrote: |
ridor wrote: |
Also considered Virginia. That surprised the **** out of me. |
Does "****" stand for hearing aid? |
Dude. Uncalled for. Some people don't like to swear on message boards, and that's their prerogative.
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ridor
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Posted: 04/18/17 10:41 pm ::: |
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Queenie, this is 2nd straight harassment that Ay Mate has on me.
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