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myrtle
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Posted: 03/25/17 6:42 pm ::: |
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If Weise can't make her shots OrSU can't win. I don't know what happened to her three ball but that's a huge factor. Normally she's money on that screen from Gulich that sets her up. Tonight, big goose egg from three.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 03/25/17 6:56 pm ::: |
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Thomas can't hit the barn from 3 feet: 4-14.
Wiese with 5 TO's.
Close game. |
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Shades
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Posted: 03/25/17 6:59 pm ::: |
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:00 pm ::: |
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thank god they called a charge on wiese
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:09 pm ::: |
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I've never understood why a player who can't hit just keeps hoisting instead of driving and/or dishing.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:10 pm ::: |
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OSU's offense is frankly much better when Wiese is not dribbling or shooting. Pass it into those bigs in the post. Run backdoors off screens. Pick and roll. |
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:12 pm ::: |
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:18 pm ::: |
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Message to Dave P. -
They don't change the arrow until the throw in is complete. OSU player still had the ball in her hands, so therefore the table was correct in not changing the arrow until the violation.
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:28 pm ::: |
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They won with Thomas shooting 5-17. That's the biggest surprise to me.
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lynxmania
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:31 pm ::: |
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It gave me vibes of Oregon State's game vs. Stanford in the Pac12 title game. Huge offensive production in the 1st quarter and then it vanishes and they lose.
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:43 pm ::: |
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I don't think the Pac-12 tournament or this one have helped Weise's WNBA draft position.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/25/17 7:52 pm ::: |
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/25/17 8:20 pm ::: |
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tfan wrote: |
I don't think the Pac-12 tournament or this one have helped Weise's WNBA draft position. |
agree. but She's the reason they got this far and I've never seen her do an 0-10 wide open on most of those threes before so I think the scouts will be looking at her body of work, not one or two games... I still think she's going to make someone a nice SF, but she won't (as I've said repeatedly) be playing PG at the next level. If she drops in the draft, some team will get a nice gift.
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Posted: 03/27/17 3:31 pm ::: |
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Weise was 3 for 14 and 0-10 from 3pt in this game. In the last 4 games she was 17 for 77 and 5 for 33 from three. It seems when she is not hitting her shots the Oregon offense just stalls. That is why I don't care for teams that rely too much on one player.
While I think the Oregon st coach is a good coach, in this game he didn't make any of the necessary adjustments on either offense or defense. FS did not make any 3s and had very few attempts from that range. They killed Oregon by penetrating and hitting most of their shots in the key. They were obviously quicker than OS yet the coach did not switch to a zone and challenge them to hit outside shots. As a result they constantly either beat the OS players off the dribble or using picks. As a coach you just don't continue to ride an obviously lame horse.
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Posted: 03/27/17 4:34 pm ::: |
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Weise was 3 for 14 and 0-10 from 3pt in this game. In the last 4 games she was 17 for 77 and 5 for 33 from three. It seems when she is not hitting her shots the Oregon offense just stalls. That is why I don't care for teams that rely too much on one player.
While I think the Oregon st coach is a good coach, in this game he didn't make any of the necessary adjustments on either offense or defense. FS did not make any 3s and had very few attempts from that range. They killed Oregon by penetrating and hitting most of their shots in the key. They were obviously quicker than OS yet the coach did not switch to a zone and challenge them to hit outside shots. As a result they constantly either beat the OS players off the dribble or using picks. As a coach you just don't continue to ride an obviously lame horse. |
Rueck did the same thing last year against Tenn during the season.
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Posted: 03/27/17 6:33 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
tfan wrote: |
I don't think the Pac-12 tournament or this one have helped Weise's WNBA draft position. |
agree. but She's the reason they got this far and I've never seen her do an 0-10 wide open on most of those threes before so I think the scouts will be looking at her body of work, not one or two games... I still think she's going to make someone a nice SF, but she won't (as I've said repeatedly) be playing PG at the next level. If she drops in the draft, some team will get a nice gift. |
I kind of hope she drops to 15. I wouldn't mind seeing her on the Storm.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/27/17 6:37 pm ::: |
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I kind of hope she drops to 15. I wouldn't mind seeing her on the Storm. |
Me neither
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Posted: 03/27/17 7:35 pm ::: |
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Precious Hall is a better shooter.
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Posted: 03/28/17 1:19 pm ::: |
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Not to mention that Hall is 5'8" while Weise is over 6 ft, which considering neither one is going to be a WNBA POINT guard is a big plus for Weise, or that Weise has earned her superior stats against much more difficult competition.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/28/17 1:46 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
tfan wrote: |
I don't think the Pac-12 tournament or this one have helped Weise's WNBA draft position. |
agree. but She's the reason they got this far and I've never seen her do an 0-10 wide open on most of those threes before so I think the scouts will be looking at her body of work, not one or two games... I still think she's going to make someone a nice SF, but she won't (as I've said repeatedly) be playing PG at the next level. If she drops in the draft, some team will get a nice gift. |
She reminds me a lot of Katie Gearlds out of Purdue: same height, build and level of athleticism. She was the #7 pick to SEA in a very weak 2007 draft. She eeked out a three year career as a mostly three point specialist off the bench. But that was 10 years ago when the talent level wasn't as good. Weise... maybe she makes a final roster if she falls into the right situation.
The Weisner fannies are handing over their "Draft Weisner" signs to the Wiese fannies.
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Shades wrote: |
She reminds me a lot of Katie Gearlds out of Purdue: same height, build and level of athleticism. She was the #7 pick to SEA in a very weak 2007 draft. She eeked out a three year career as a mostly three point specialist off the bench. But that was 10 years ago when the talent level wasn't as good. Weise... maybe she makes a final roster if she falls into the right situation.
The Weisner fannies are handing over their "Draft Weisner" signs to the Wiese fannies. |
The Gearlds comparison is a good one. I was also thinking the other day that Wiese reminds me a lot of Gearlds. Physically it is an easy comparison, and they are also both known for their outside shooting. Gearlds was always kind of a borderline talent and then the knee injury (PCL, iirc) was the end of it. Will Wiese have any more success making a roster and an impact for a team? I don't know. I'm biased, no doubt, so I'll say I believe with the right fit she makes a roster. Beyond the talent, she's a smart player and a great leader, and I think it is a personality that would fit with the Storm. Just my biased opinion.
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/28/17 4:10 pm ::: |
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I agree that Geralds is an interesting and somewhat apt comparison although I don't think Katie played the point in college. I think Weise's understanding of the game and that PG mentality/approach will benefit her... as she plays SF in the W.
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