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linkster
Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Posts: 5424
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Posted: 03/20/17 10:56 pm ::: Sweet 16 bragging rights to PAC12 |
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PAC 12 - 5 teams
ACC - 3 teams
SEC - 2 teams
B12 - 2 teams
B1G - 2 teams
AAC - 1 teams
MAAC -1 team
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CBiebel
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 1058 Location: PA
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Posted: 03/21/17 1:14 am ::: |
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I have to give them credit. The Pac 12 has done really well, including a #10 seed in the Sweet Sixteen and one of their two losses a near upset of a #1 seed in the 2nd round.
I'd say that they've got the argument for strongest conference overall this year.
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linkster
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Posted: 03/21/17 12:33 pm ::: |
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The P12 easily has the most quality teams as a percentage of the entire conference.
I think the P12 has improved mostly due to the excellent coaching hired in the Pacific Northwest in the last several years.
I have enjoyed watching them play in the last 2 years on The P12 Network. It helps that I'm a night owl and that unlike the B1G Network, they don't require a separate subscription to watch most streaming games.
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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Posted: 03/21/17 7:29 pm ::: |
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In fairness, Oregon beat Duke who was without their starting PG.
That said, I like Oregon a lot. They're fun to watch and I'm glad they won so I can see them in person.
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Durantula
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Posted: 03/21/17 7:35 pm ::: |
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cthskzfn wrote: |
In fairness, Oregon beat Duke who was without their starting PG.
That said, I like Oregon a lot. They're fun to watch and I'm glad they won so I can see them in person. |
Oregon also barely beat Temple. Temple was without former Georgia Tech player Donnaizha Fountain, who averages 14 PPG (3rd on team) and 7.5 RPG (2nd on team). Just gotta beat who they line up against you but they did get somewhat fortunate. Interesting that 7 seed Temple on a neutral floor gave them a better game than the 2 seed who had a true home game.
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summertime blues
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Posted: 03/21/17 7:41 pm ::: |
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I haven't seen Oregon AT ALL this year (curse you, Pac-12 network!) so I have to wonder if they're one of those teams that kind of rises to the occasion. Also, because Ionescu and Hebard are freshmen, maybe it took them a bit to get their feet under them. Whatever, it's working now!
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bcdawg04
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Posted: 03/21/17 10:27 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
I haven't seen Oregon AT ALL this year (curse you, Pac-12 network!) so I have to wonder if they're one of those teams that kind of rises to the occasion. Also, because Ionescu and Hebard are freshmen, maybe it took them a bit to get their feet under them. Whatever, it's working now! |
Well, they only had 2 non-conferences losses--against Mississippi St on a neutral court and at Ole Miss. Ionescu missed most of the Ole Miss game with an injury that also kept her out of several more games.
The Ducks are just getting started. Ionescu is the real deal. Her court vision is filthy. Hebard also has all kinds of superstar potential. Plus Kelly Graves is not just a terrific recruiter, but the man can flat out coach. The conference is fortunate to have him.
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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Posted: 03/22/17 8:52 am ::: |
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8:30 a.m. (PT) start Saturday.
on the other hand, the Ducks will be the crowd favorite by a wide margin.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/22/17 9:43 am ::: |
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How about bragging rights to the #3 seeds?
Seeds
1... 4 (CON, ND, SC, BAY)
2... 3 (STAN, MSU, OSU)
3... 4 (MAR, TEX, FSU, WAS)
4... 2 (LOU, UCLA)
5... 1 (OSU)
10.. 1 (ORE)
12.. 1 (QUIN)
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myrtle
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Durantula
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Posted: 03/22/17 5:07 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
How about bragging rights to the #3 seeds?
Seeds
1... 4 (CON, ND, SC, BAY)
2... 3 (STAN, MSU, OSU)
3... 4 (MAR, TEX, FSU, WAS)
4... 2 (LOU, UCLA)
5... 1 (OSU)
10.. 1 (ORE)
12.. 1 (QUIN) |
It seems pretty unusual to see multiple 3 seeds favored over 2 seeds on neutral floors. Washington is 3.5 point favorites right now over Miss State, and FSU is a 3 point favorite over Oregon State. I'm guessing if Duke had beaten Oregon, Maryland would have been favored as well.
So there's another thread about whether the seeding was bad, I guess when it comes to the 2-3 seed lines Vegas sees things differently than the committee.
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pilight
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Posted: 03/22/17 5:17 pm ::: |
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Durantula wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
How about bragging rights to the #3 seeds?
Seeds
1... 4 (CON, ND, SC, BAY)
2... 3 (STAN, MSU, OSU)
3... 4 (MAR, TEX, FSU, WAS)
4... 2 (LOU, UCLA)
5... 1 (OSU)
10.. 1 (ORE)
12.. 1 (QUIN) |
It seems pretty unusual to see multiple 3 seeds favored over 2 seeds on neutral floors. Washington is 3.5 point favorites right now over Miss State, and FSU is a 3 point favorite over Oregon State. I'm guessing if Duke had beaten Oregon, Maryland would have been favored as well.
So there's another thread about whether the seeding was bad, I guess when it comes to the 2-3 seed lines Vegas sees things differently than the committee. |
Still not as bad as the men's side, where Vegas had a #12 seed favored over a #5 seed in the first round.
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/22/17 8:22 pm ::: |
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Durantula wrote: |
It seems pretty unusual to see multiple 3 seeds favored over 2 seeds on neutral floors. Washington is 3.5 point favorites right now over Miss State, and FSU is a 3 point favorite over Oregon State. I'm guessing if Duke had beaten Oregon, Maryland would have been favored as well.
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Interesting since I think OrSU has a better chance to beat FSU than Washington has to beat MSU. Perhaps I should place some bets. Washington is getting a lot of press because of their fairytale run last year and because of Plum, but they're not as good as last year. Well, except if Romeo and Corral and my avatar are all hitting shots....then they are pretty good, but that hasn't happened all that much this year.
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IM in OC
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 1000 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: 03/22/17 8:53 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Durantula wrote: |
It seems pretty unusual to see multiple 3 seeds favored over 2 seeds on neutral floors. Washington is 3.5 point favorites right now over Miss State, and FSU is a 3 point favorite over Oregon State. I'm guessing if Duke had beaten Oregon, Maryland would have been favored as well.
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Interesting since I think OrSU has a better chance to beat FSU than Washington has to beat MSU. Perhaps I should place some bets. Washington is getting a lot of press because of their fairytale run last year and because of Plum, but they're not as good as last year. Well, except if Romeo and Corral and my avatar are all hitting shots....then they are pretty good, but that hasn't happened all that much this year. |
Florida State -2½
Oregon State +2½
Over/Under 124½
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Washington -3½
Mississippi State +3½
Over/Under 151½
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willtalk
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Posted: 03/22/17 10:05 pm ::: |
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What has hurt Oregon St is that Wiese has been in an extended shooting slump. If she breaks out of it that team is an entirely different story.
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