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justintyme
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Posted: 06/06/16 4:32 pm ::: Stanford Rapist gets 6 months and probation... |
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10 Reasons Why the Brock Turner Rape Case Is Even More Awful Than It Looks
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The media in general tends to struggle with reporting rape cases, especially during the trial phase, for liability reasons. That's why you see headlines like "had sex with" or "alleged rapist." Once someone is convicted, though, you'd think we could dispense with the fig leaves, but you'd be wrong.
Take this headline from the Washington Post:
'You took away my worth': A rape victim delivers a 'powerful' message to a former Stanford swimmer
She's a "rape victim," he's a "former Stanford swimmer." Not a rapist. A "former Stanford swimmer." She's defined by the horrible crime he perpetrated, and he's defined by his social status. The Post is far from the only offender when it comes to media outlets that refuse to call Brock Turner a rapist.
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Dan A. Turner wrote a brief statement in defense of his son. His comments serve both as an appalling illustration of rape culture, and an explanation for why his son is such a terrible person.
After hearing that his son's victim is experiencing acute psychological issues, he wants us to know that his son's life has gotten so very difficult because he was accused of rape. He can't even enjoy steak anymore!
It wasn't enough to make this all about his son's pain, though. Oh no. He referred to the rape as "20 minutes of action."
20 minutes of action. |
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Youth Coach
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Posted: 06/06/16 5:02 pm ::: |
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I read that whole letter from the victim the other day. Holy shit!
And the father of the guy should be ashamed of himself. |
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Posted: 06/06/16 6:04 pm ::: |
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fucking disgrace.
and in CT today, a HS student who stabbed his classmate to death, in school while it was in session, because she refused to be his prom date, was sentenced today to 25 yrs. as part of a deal.
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Posted: 06/06/16 9:10 pm ::: |
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I always just say "Karma's a bitch". This guy will get what's coming for him. Maybe not now, or next year, but he'll get it[Karma].
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pilight
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Posted: 06/06/16 9:25 pm ::: |
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cthskzfn wrote: |
and in CT today, a HS student who stabbed his classmate to death, in school while it was in session, because she refused to be his prom date, was sentenced today to 25 yrs. as part of a deal. |
Excitable boy, they all said...
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Genero36
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Posted: 06/07/16 7:51 am ::: |
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That statement from the dad made me rage so hard I actually had to walk away for a moment. Now we know why the son acts the way he does and thinks the way he does. I can only imagine the BS Daddy Turner is spewing at home about women.
Talking about how his son has "no joy" in his life and how he can't eat and how it's not rape, it's "20 minutes of action." That's how this dad refers to rape and sexual assault - "action." What the hell does he think his son's rape victim is going through?
This guy and his son need to be smashed repeatedly in the face with a baseball bat.
Please sign the change.org petition to get this judge off the bench, it's an election year and he's running unopposed!
https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky
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Posted: 06/07/16 5:07 pm ::: |
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I read her statement. Wow!
She is amazing in her strength and words. I hope that she continues her healing and knows that she has touched a large number of people with her 'light.'
I hope that Brock and Dan Turner stop, read and really think what she had to say. And suffer every minute of everyday thinking about what Brock has given up because of his actions.
I hope that the judge is soon out of a job on the bench. Right now, I'm not sure that he's capable of judging a a dog show or best pie competition.
The probation officer should be in the unemployment line along with the judge.
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Genero36
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mercfan3
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Posted: 06/07/16 5:53 pm ::: |
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Just awful and disgusting, all the way around.
The little bit of light in this story is the two swedes, who witnessed what was going on, put a stop to it, and stood by the victim. There are so many reasons (even beyond rape culture) that people wouldn't stop to help in that situation, but they did.
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Posted: 06/08/16 12:01 pm ::: |
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Posted: 06/08/16 12:03 pm ::: |
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Genero36 wrote: |
That statement from the dad made me rage so hard I actually had to walk away for a moment. Now we know why the son acts the way he does and thinks the way he does. I can only imagine the BS Daddy Turner is spewing at home about women.
Talking about how his son has "no joy" in his life and how he can't eat and how it's not rape, it's "20 minutes of action." That's how this dad refers to rape and sexual assault - "action." What the hell does he think his son's rape victim is going through?
This guy and his son need to be smashed repeatedly in the face with a baseball bat.
Please sign the change.org petition to get this judge off the bench, it's an election year and he's running unopposed!
https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky |
signed. beyond sickening. |
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Posted: 06/10/16 8:20 am ::: |
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Now some potential jurors are refusing to serve in his courtroom and two female 'character' witnesses are backing down on their statements.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/potential-jurors-refuse-serve-case-overseen-stanford-sex/story?id=39749908
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Leslie Rasmussen of the indie rock band Good English, who went to school with Turner, posted on her Facebook page how she regretted supporting him, citing widespread backlash and canceled venues. |
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Kelly Owens, who was Turner's guidance counselor when he went to Oakwood High School, near Dayton, Ohio, was also a character witness. Owens issued an apology Wednesday to the school district saying the letter she wrote to the judge during Turner's trial was a mistake. |
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Posted: 06/10/16 8:20 pm ::: |
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USA Swimming bans Brock Turner for life
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(CNN)The U.S. governing body for the sport of swimming on Friday banned ex-Stanford University swimmer Brock Turner, whose six-month jail sentence for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman has stirred widespread outrage.
Condemning Turner's "crime and actions," USA Swimming said that he is not a current organization member and is ineligible for membership.
"Brock Turner's membership with USA Swimming expired at the end of the calendar year 2014 and he was not a member at the time of his crime or since then," USA Swimming spokesman Scott Leightman said. "As a result, USA Swimming doesn't have any jurisdiction over Brock Turner." |
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/us/sexual-assault-brock-turner-swimming/index.html
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mercfan3
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Posted: 06/10/16 10:24 pm ::: |
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"why him"
Is she fucking serious?
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pilight
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Posted: 06/12/16 10:12 am ::: |
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The frenzy over campus rape culture is hurting real victims
http://nypost.com/2016/06/11/the-frenzy-over-campus-rape-culture-is-hurting-real-victims/
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People will cite the 1 in 5 statistic the bogus percentage of campus rapes and they will offer the Stanford girl as the textbook example, when in fact the vast majority of these assaults look much more like the Columbia one. |
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justintyme
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Posted: 06/12/16 10:52 am ::: |
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This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. She is insinuating that the "vast majority" of these 1 in 5 are not actually rape victims, but rather women who drank too much and later regretted having sex so they claimed rape. She also does the disgusting thing of perpetuating the old way if thinking that it is a woman responsibility to make sure she does not get raped, rather than the responsibility of men to not rape.
The worst part is that she is selling the Hollywood myth that there are two types of men out there, "There are wonderful men out there who will be your friends, your boyfriends and maybe someday your husbands. But there are also men who dont care a whit about your well-being." This is not how it works in real life. What the letters to the judge should tell us is that Brock Turner, up until the point that he raped a young women behind a dumpster, was part of that first group. Brock Turner was not a monster, a Ramsey Snow type figure who got off on the harming of others. Because that is not what most rapists look like. But that is what we are talking about when we discuss rape culture. How otherwise decent people become a monster in the moment. How the way we approach sex with a sense of entitlement, or as a defining characteristic of masculinity, or with a boys will be boys mentality, or that it is a women's job to say no rather than make sure it is a clear and uncoerced yes, all create an atmosphere...a culture...where rape can thrive.
So what hurts "real victims"? Articles like this one...
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Posted: 06/14/16 9:53 am ::: |
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Brock Turner juror to judge: 'Shame on you'
http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2016/06/13/brock-turner-juror-to-judge-shame-on-you
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"After the guilty verdict I expected that this case would serve as a very strong deterrent to on-campus assaults, but with the ridiculously lenient sentence that Brock Turner received, I am afraid that it makes a mockery of the whole trial and the ability of the justice system to protect victims of assault and rape," the juror wrote to Persky. "Clearly there are few to no consequences for a rapist even if they are caught in the act of assaulting a defenseless, unconscious person." |
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