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| So this fight took place three months ago, just before Carter was suspended. The team was aware of the fight and "handled it internally". Did anyone here know about this before now? This is getting weirder...
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| Posted: 10/04/21 9:56 pm ::: |
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| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there.
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| Posted: 10/04/21 10:08 pm ::: |
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| ChiSky54 wrote: |
| So this fight took place three months ago, just before Carter was suspended. The team was aware of the fight and "handled it internally". Did anyone here know about this before now? This is getting weirder... |
There were rumors going around. Hadn't heard there was video.
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| Posted: 10/04/21 10:36 pm ::: |
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| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there. |
This is 100% not going to happen.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 5:24 am ::: |
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| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there. |
I don't even know why she's there. I know this league has a history of useless commentators but she's particularly egregious. She says a lot without saying anything at all. She's a hollow hype man.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 8:04 am ::: |
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| ChiSky54 wrote: |
| So this fight took place three months ago, just before Carter was suspended. The team was aware of the fight and "handled it internally". Did anyone here know about this before now? This is getting weirder... |
There were rumors going around. Hadn't heard there was video. |
Courtney's GF Glamazon Tay spoke of this fight a few months ago on her personal blog but did not post the video til Sunday on their shared youtube account Court & Tay.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 8:28 am ::: |
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| lynxmania wrote: |
| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there. |
This is 100% not going to happen. |
LOLOLLLLL-For a league and network that works social justice into almost everything they say and do, they just leave this stuff totally out. I mean, the players themselves are selective with this-Nneka Ogwumike, the WNBPA president said, I'm pretty sure nothing, about Riquanna Williams gun charges......while she was her teammate.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 8:31 am ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| ChiSky54 wrote: |
| So this fight took place three months ago, just before Carter was suspended. The team was aware of the fight and "handled it internally". Did anyone here know about this before now? This is getting weirder... |
There were rumors going around. Hadn't heard there was video. |
Courtney's GF Glamazon Tay spoke of this fight a few months ago on her personal blog but did not post the video til Sunday on their shared youtube account Court & Tay. |
Courtney Williams is clearly an asshole. But I'm shocked at the level of assholery here. On what planet did she think posting this video would result in anything good? Like, her social media clout is more important her basketball career?
I say roll the dice on Cater, hope she matures, find a coach that can contain her, and get rid of almost the entire roster. Atlanta is a straight up embarrassment to the WNBA.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 8:35 am ::: |
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| lynxmania wrote: |
| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there. |
This is 100% not going to happen. |
LOLOLLLLL-For a league and network that works social justice into almost everything they say and do, they just leave this stuff totally out. I mean, the players themselves are selective with this-Nneka Ogwumike, the WNBPA president said, I'm pretty sure nothing, about Riquanna Williams gun charges......while she was her teammate. |
"Do as I say not as I do" is always the rule with activists
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| Posted: 10/05/21 10:42 am ::: |
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https://twitter.com/ReneeMontgomery/status/1445391985603452931
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Listen, I’ve read the tweets and I appreciate y’alls concerns for The Dream players. As a franchise we have to take the good with the bad, it’s part of the game.
I look forward to getting this much National and Local coverage when good things happen. |
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| Posted: 10/05/21 11:23 am ::: |
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https://twitter.com/ReneeMontgomery/status/1445391985603452931
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Listen, I’ve read the tweets and I appreciate y’alls concerns for The Dream players. As a franchise we have to take the good with the bad, it’s part of the game.
I look forward to getting this much National and Local coverage when good things happen. |
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I love the second part of this quote.
I don't think "take the hood with the bad" is sufficient here, though.
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I don't have a problem with her statement. In a league that fights for coverage & visibility, media is gonna stay quiet until something like this?
Now that it is out though, they will have to deal with it. They also have to deal with Carter. But just because CWill has this going on doesn't mean Carter was in the right in the other. She may have been, but doesn't mean she was.
Having a stable Pres/GM/HC in place will help for the 2022 season. I think having new faces (due to cutting FAs) will help as well. They need a splashy get and a splashy draft pick. CM/HC will make the call on Carter, unless she's just done with ATL, in which case, get after it Hash Brown!
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| Posted: 10/05/21 1:29 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| ucbart wrote: |
| mercfan wrote: |
| lynxmania wrote: |
| Renee better be getting questioned on this on ESPN on Wednesday if she’s going to be there. |
This is 100% not going to happen. |
LOLOLLLLL-For a league and network that works social justice into almost everything they say and do, they just leave this stuff totally out. I mean, the players themselves are selective with this-Nneka Ogwumike, the WNBPA president said, I'm pretty sure nothing, about Riquanna Williams gun charges......while she was her teammate. |
"Do as I say not as I do" is always the rule with activists |
I didn't realize the activism was about bar fights.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 1:55 pm ::: |
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Okay.....I don't follow the wnba too closely until playoff time, so I've missed some of the Dream's Drama. Never been a Dream fan anyway, but yeah, ANY team's negative drama is harmful to the league.
The above article re: Carter/Williams certainly does not reflect well on Courtney, especially given the past history with the Sun, and now the public altercation.
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| Following the game, Carter approached Williams about playing time and suggested she wanted to fight her teammate, sources told Nusbaum. Williams, who reportedly got into an altercation in 2018 with then-Sun teammate Alex Bentley, made it clear she didn’t want to fight and removed herself from the situation. |
Even Plenette Pierson kept her *nastiness* on the court. 
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| Posted: 10/05/21 3:24 pm ::: |
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I don't have a problem with her statement. In a league that fights for coverage & visibility, media is gonna stay quiet until something like this?
Now that it is out though, they will have to deal with it. They also have to deal with Carter. But just because CWill has this going on doesn't mean Carter was in the right in the other. She may have been, but doesn't mean she was.
Having a stable Pres/GM/HC in place will help for the 2022 season. I think having new faces (due to cutting FAs) will help as well. They need a splashy get and a splashy draft pick. CM/HC will make the call on Carter, unless she's just done with ATL, in which case, get after it Hash Brown! |
The problem I have with her statement is that it isn't a statement. It insinuated nothing remotely close to accountability and then turned it back on people who are not involved in this incident.
I understand that Twitter is a major outlet to reach people, but the VP shouldn't be advised to speak anything on the issue outside of a formal statement from the front office.
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| Posted: 10/05/21 3:43 pm ::: |
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Is there a possibility that they let C. Williams walk and trade Carter?
Or will it be an either/or situation?
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| Posted: 10/05/21 3:50 pm ::: |
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I don't have a problem with her statement. In a league that fights for coverage & visibility, media is gonna stay quiet until something like this?
Now that it is out though, they will have to deal with it. They also have to deal with Carter. But just because CWill has this going on doesn't mean Carter was in the right in the other. She may have been, but doesn't mean she was.
Having a stable Pres/GM/HC in place will help for the 2022 season. I think having new faces (due to cutting FAs) will help as well. They need a splashy get and a splashy draft pick. CM/HC will make the call on Carter, unless she's just done with ATL, in which case, get after it Hash Brown! |
The problem I have with her statement is that it isn't a statement. It insinuated nothing remotely close to accountability and then turned it back on people who are not involved in this incident.
I understand that Twitter is a major outlet to reach people, but the VP shouldn't be advised to speak anything on the issue outside of a formal statement from the front office. |
The team just released a statement to one of the stations here:
“The behavior in the video is unacceptable and does not align with our values as an organization. We are taking this matter very seriously and working with the league to gather more information and determine next steps.”
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| Posted: 10/05/21 3:54 pm ::: |
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| There's not a whole lot the team can really do to Williams now. She's a free agent.
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