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Who will win this game?
Wings
36%
 36%  [ 8 ]
Mercury
63%
 63%  [ 14 ]
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
The Merc only have two people who can score. It's amazing they're this close.



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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
Cunningham have good minutes in the first half, I don’t understand why we haven’t seen her at all in the second half. I’m not sure how many more times Walker needs to shoot 3-10 for Sandy to try something else.

BG needs a touch every time down the floor.


Cunningham should be playing. These decisions and substitutions. Turner is getting ate up by Sabally and there hasn't been an adjustment.

The 3 shooting is killing us.



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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
myrtle wrote:
It's interesting that almost every time I look at +- for Dallas, Collier has the biggest negative. I still think it would be better for her to come off the bench and she might be more effective against opponents' second teams.


Myrtle, it’s not hockey. Confused



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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
mercfan wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
Cunningham have good minutes in the first half, I don’t understand why we haven’t seen her at all in the second half. I’m not sure how many more times Walker needs to shoot 3-10 for Sandy to try something else.

BG needs a touch every time down the floor.


Honestly. We couldn't shoot worse from 3 in this game. May as well mix it up.


Well, it’s over now. This offense is incredibly frustrating, I’ll never understand why some of the starting perimeter players don’t understand the concept of moving. It’s like they’ll casually watch BG get doubled and STILL stay planted to where they are.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I'm unsure how that was a foul on Turner but oh well.

Dallas made a smart adjustment to post up their quicker/stronger guards.

Just wasn't the Mercury's night.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
And there's the dagger from Sabally.

I figured Dallas would pick up a win in this mini "series" with Phoenix. Didn't know which game it would be though.

(yikes...may have posted this prematurely)
(edit: nope i was in the clear)




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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
SCook wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
Cunningham have good minutes in the first half, I don’t understand why we haven’t seen her at all in the second half. I’m not sure how many more times Walker needs to shoot 3-10 for Sandy to try something else.

BG needs a touch every time down the floor.


Cunningham should be playing. These decisions and substitutions. Turner is getting ate up by Sabally and there hasn't been an adjustment.

The 3 shooting is killing us.


I really don’t understand what the deal is with her. She brings good energy and at least seems to understand the concept of flow and movement. She isn’t necessarily the most skilled, but she does nice things here and there when given the opportunity.

Smith is completely out the rotation. Which I don’t understand during situations like this where the opposing team is just packing the paint.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:
It's interesting that almost every time I look at +- for Dallas, Collier has the biggest negative. I still think it would be better for her to come off the bench and she might be more effective against opponents' second teams.


Myrtle, it’s not hockey. Confused


why do I care?
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
mercfan wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
Cunningham have good minutes in the first half, I don’t understand why we haven’t seen her at all in the second half. I’m not sure how many more times Walker needs to shoot 3-10 for Sandy to try something else.

BG needs a touch every time down the floor.


Honestly. We couldn't shoot worse from 3 in this game. May as well mix it up.


Well, it’s over now. This offense is incredibly frustrating, I’ll never understand why some of the starting perimeter players don’t understand the concept of moving. It’s like they’ll casually watch BG get doubled and STILL stay planted to where they are.


The Mercury offense, specifically without Hartley is heavily dependent on one or two players getting extremely hot. There is a lot of standing, like you mentioned. The backup pg is not a real scoring threat and the starting pf is unusable in most offensive sets outside of setting a screen.

There's only so much you can do if Nurse, Walker and Skylar can't hit a three from anywhere.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Skylar is a winner. Damn.

Griner just went missing on that help.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Skylar is a winner. Damn.

Griner just went missing on that help.


She sure did. However, why did Kia get beat so bad. The scout was obvious and she just let Mabrey put her on skates.



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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
LMAO at CBSSports. Didn't even come back in time for the final play.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 10:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Okay, Dallas, a good and deep young team, but Collier and Jefferson are no-ops.
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 11:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Fascinating that not one but two of Dallas starters ranked last on their roster in minutes played (among the ten players who played).
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 11:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
The Phoenix bench was outscored 10-41. Smith and Gorecki didn't get any minutes. I find myself scratching my head.

I hope that Sandy really considers having Kia come off the bench when Diana returns. There is no logical reason to start her at the 3 because she can't defend at that spot. Quiet as it's kept, she can't defend at the 2 but she does better there than at the 3.



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PostPosted: 06/08/21 11:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
mercfan wrote:
LMAO at CBSSports. Didn't even come back in time for the final play.


yeah, that sucked. They did it earlier as well, but c'mon - the final play!
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PostPosted: 06/08/21 11:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Forgive me for using stan language, but, I completely believe in a Marina Mabrey Supremacy at this point – she's for real, isn't she. Shocked Even though she didn't shoot well tonight, I saw that clutch game-sealing layup she made. She made her presence felt quite a bit in this past weekend's games as well. Not only can simply score at will, period, but she also rebounds (6 per game right now) and has played all three perimeter positions with relative ease. It's crazy!! Easily the 6POY if VJ bringing her in off the bench continues to lead to wins. (Besides, Dearica Hamby can't win it forever.) She's been better than most of her fellow former Notre Dame guards, even as some of them have actually enjoyed good starts to their seasons thus far...
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PostPosted: 06/09/21 1:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Play together - you get dubs. I knew this was going to be the Wings game. Don't be surprise if Friday swings as well.

Is it childish to get a tech in a close game to give the other team the momentum? I think so. Slooty did the same thing to her team and they lost.

Is something wrong with A. Smith why she's not playing? Never liked her game so if she's healthy I'm not surprised for her DNPs.

Again rebounds high, turnovers low. Free throws and 3pt shooting were good. But, VJ please give it up with Jefferson (5 mins ). Why is she starting or even playing? Harris is ur starting point.

Nice game by Alarie - 14 mins: 4 points, 7 boards, 2 blocks

I'm not even going to count Collier's 3 rebounds. Should've stayed in school.



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PostPosted: 06/09/21 1:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I wonder when the Merc will be back at full strength? Haven’t heard an update on Hartley in a while and we could really use her scoring ASAP.
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PostPosted: 06/09/21 7:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Tally24 wrote:
I wonder when the Merc will be back at full strength? Haven’t heard an update on Hartley in a while and we could really use her scoring ASAP.


There is no official time table for Bria. They just said they expect her back. It's giving very much end of the season return like 2019 when DT had the back injury. Therefore, the closest to Full strength Phoenix will be is around the 26th/27th, which is the expected return of Diana.



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PostPosted: 06/09/21 9:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
SCook wrote:
Smith and Gorecki didn't get any minutes. I find myself scratching my head.


That’s the way it goes in a tight game. There’s no garbage time for your end-of-benchers.

SCook wrote:
I hope that Sandy really considers having Kia come off the bench when Diana returns.


Most likely it’ll be Walker returning to the bench when Taurasi returns to full strength. She’s probably saving herself for after the Olympics.

After Hartley returns, who knows what’ll happen. That should be some decent depth though, however that works out.



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PostPosted: 06/09/21 9:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Should Mabrey be coming off the bench? Her scoring has dropped as well as her 3 point shooting since coming off the bench. If it’s a coincidence fine, but is it affecting her confidence? I just don’t think you should be messing with the team’s top or second best producer.
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PostPosted: 06/09/21 10:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
pilight wrote:
The Merc only have two people who can score. It's amazing they're this close.


This!
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PostPosted: 06/09/21 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
So VJ learned her lesson and ran a play for ABJ: Anyone but Jefferson
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PostPosted: 06/09/21 10:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Milks26 wrote:

Is it childish to get a tech in a close game to give the other team the momentum? I think so. Slooty did the same thing to her team and they lost.


FWIW, Vandersloot's technical was overruled and rescinded by the league.
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