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Richyyy
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| I believe Connecticut are down to 12, but that's not their final roster. Doesn't even come close to fitting under the cap without removing one more. |
Minnesota appears to be down to 12 as well, but will also need to cut one more |
I make it 13 - the expected 11 plus Pivec and Lott. |
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myrtle
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| Posted: 05/11/21 3:38 pm ::: |
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Looks like Sug Sutton and Stella Johnson will both make the roster in Washington with Alleyne, McCall and Plaisance still in contention for the last post spot....uness they're keeping 6 posts which would make me think they're going to play Delle Donne at the 3. Might be a less physical transition for her to get back into game shape. |
I'm guessing two of the posts with Johnson.
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| Posted: 05/11/21 4:33 pm ::: |
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Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas
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| Posted: 05/11/21 4:39 pm ::: |
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Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays...
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| Posted: 05/11/21 4:41 pm ::: |
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| Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young |
Laksa survives another round. What’s left, her and Gorecki?
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| Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Looking like they’re going the Slocum route. She’s a run through a wall type. I think Laimbeer appreciates that type of player.
Of course, it’s going to be a juicy waiver wire or trade docket.
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myrtle
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| Posted: 05/11/21 4:51 pm ::: |
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Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays... |
I think there may have been some hard feelings when T.Young got booted from the Aces before. But maybe money/job will speak louder than feelings...
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Stormeo
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| Posted: 05/11/21 4:54 pm ::: |
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| I think there may have been some hard feelings when T.Young got booted from the Aces before. But maybe money/job will speak louder than feelings... |
The Aces didn't need her once they signed McCoughtry. But now that McCoughtry's out, they might just need Young again...
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myrtle
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| Posted: 05/11/21 5:42 pm ::: |
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| I think there may have been some hard feelings when T.Young got booted from the Aces before. But maybe money/job will speak louder than feelings... |
The Aces didn't need her once they signed McCoughtry. But now that McCoughtry's out, they might just need Young again... |
I agree but I'm just saying T.Young may feel like she was hard done by so may not want to go back ...especially if there's another opportunity. OTOH it might be a chance to win a 'ship, so that should be attractive..
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PickledGinger
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| Posted: 05/11/21 6:17 pm ::: |
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| Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young |
Laksa survives another round. What’s left, her and Gorecki? |
We still need to make 4 cuts, most likely Gorecki, Laksa, N'dea Jones and Kiana Williams, unless one of them can beat out Prince, Burke, Talbot or Herbert-Harrigan.
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 05/11/21 6:35 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young |
Laksa survives another round. What’s left, her and Gorecki? |
We still need to make 4 cuts, most likely Gorecki, Laksa, N'dea Jones and Kiana Williams, unless one of them can beat out Prince, Burke, Talbot or Herbert-Harrigan. |
They also have the room to temp suspend Russell or Prince and keep a 13th to start the season. |
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willtalk
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| Posted: 05/11/21 7:08 pm ::: |
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Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays... |
I read in a story that the Aces GM has a thng ( as a player ) based on her game against UConn in the playoffs when she was a freshman so she may not get cut based on friends in high places. This expains why they drafted her when there were better catch and shoot player options available. She is decent 3pr shooter but nothing outstanding. Possible she didn't play because the GM made her a lock. What an idiot. But then thats mot unusual for GMs in the WNBA.
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:26 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays... |
I read in a story that the Aces GM has a thng ( as a player ) based on her game against UConn in the playoffs when she was a freshman so she may not get cut based on friends in high places. This expains why they drafted her when there were better catch and shoot player options available. She is decent 3pr shooter but nothing outstanding. Possible she didn't play because the GM made her a lock. What an idiot. But then thats mot unusual for GMs in the WNBA. |
Another case of opportunity and going to the right team. I think part of why she transferred to Arky last year was because Goodman was better than her. Now Goodman is waived and Slocum may hang on.
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:32 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young |
Laksa survives another round. What’s left, her and Gorecki? |
We still need to make 4 cuts, most likely Gorecki, Laksa, N'dea Jones and Kiana Williams, unless one of them can beat out Prince, Burke, Talbot or Herbert-Harrigan. |
They also have the room to temp suspend Russell or Prince and keep a 13th to start the season. |
In a way it's lucky for Herbert-Harrigan that she hasn't shown up yet. That way she can't show just how bad she is compared to the others.
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:40 pm ::: |
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| Stormeo wrote: |
| pilight wrote: |
Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays... |
I read in a story that the Aces GM has a thng ( as a player ) based on her game against UConn in the playoffs when she was a freshman so she may not get cut based on friends in high places. This expains why they drafted her when there were better catch and shoot player options available. She is decent 3pr shooter but nothing outstanding. Possible she didn't play because the GM made her a lock. What an idiot. But then thats mot unusual for GMs in the WNBA. |
Another case of opportunity and going to the right team. I think part of why she transferred to Arky last year was because Goodman was better than her. Now Goodman is waived and Slocum may hang on. |
OTOH we were all pretty much assuming that one of the Aces pick 12 or 14 would be a back up PG combo guard and that that guard would likely get one of the last two spots whether that Guard ended up being Slocum, Richards, K. Williams or Gondrezick.
I would be a little worried if I was Slocum that coach might ask for TY Young back and try to cover the rest of the PG minutes behind Gray with Plum and J. Young. But I also think Slocum landed in a good spot with the Aces other pick going to an International (Rupert) who wasn't going to show at a position of clear need.
I also think The Aces could pull a Swords move like they did last year and slip Sugar Rodgers into the last spot but that seem like a way out there idea, but a way out there idea with precedence.
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with Russell and Prince arriving late Sea can go
Bird/Canada/Williams
Loyd/Laksa or Gorecki
KLS/Burke
Dupree/MHH/Talbot
Stewart/Magbegor
and then wait to see who to cut when Russell and Prince arrive
I wouldn't count my chickens if I was Burke or Herbert-Harrigan because Laksa and Gorecki are coming hard for those last two spots
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:46 pm ::: |
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NY has a similar deal with Howard and Stokes late arrival
probably going to see something like
Ionescu/Clarendon
Jones/Whitcomb/(Durr)
Laney/Odom/Richards
Allen/Onyenwere
Shook/Holmes
and wait to make the final two cuts until Howard and Stokes are actually with the team
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myrtle
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:50 pm ::: |
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| I just want waivers to be over with so I can stop feeling bad for players who get cut.
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| Posted: 05/11/21 8:54 pm ::: |
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| I just want waivers to be over with so I can stop feeling bad for players who get cut. |
agree I was really rooting both for TY Young and S. Thomas. Both had what I considered an outside chance to win a spot but it didn't play out that way.
And NY is killing me with still having not announced what is happening with Johannes or what if anything they plan to do with Willoughby and worst of all why there hasn't been some form of solution offered by the league for the very unique circumstance Durr is in.
and I don't want to see any of Richards, Holmes, Odom or Shook cut, I am a big fan of Didi and I think all the sophomores deserve a shot a redemption after last years circumstances.
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 05/11/21 10:21 pm ::: |
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with Russell and Prince arriving late Sea can go
Bird/Canada/Williams
Loyd/Laksa or Gorecki
KLS/Burke
Dupree/MHH/Talbot
Stewart/Magbegor
and then wait to see who to cut when Russell and Prince arrive
I wouldn't count my chickens if I was Burke or Herbert-Harrigan because Laksa and Gorecki are coming hard for those last two spots |
No, they have room to temp suspend and add one player, they don't have room to do it with two. So it's not 12 plus Russell and Prince, it's 11. |
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Sky waive Sierra Campisano, Jessica January, and Sparkle Taylor
Wings temporarily suspend Satou Sabally, clearing her roster spot (but not her salary hit) until she is available for the team |
Love that name. |
I guess she lost some of her sparkle, glitter, and luster.  |
In my mind, I want to believe that the first thing that happened to her and Kai James after they reported to their teams was that the team sat them down and asked for a detailed scouting report on Sika Kone for the upcoming draft since they have been teammates with her for two seasons. |
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| Posted: 05/12/21 6:00 am ::: |
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with Russell and Prince arriving late Sea can go
Bird/Canada/Williams
Loyd/Laksa or Gorecki
KLS/Burke
Dupree/MHH/Talbot
Stewart/Magbegor
and then wait to see who to cut when Russell and Prince arrive
I wouldn't count my chickens if I was Burke or Herbert-Harrigan because Laksa and Gorecki are coming hard for those last two spots |
No, they have room to temp suspend and add one player, they don't have room to do it with two. So it's not 12 plus Russell and Prince, it's 11. |
Arent Russell and Prince done in Turkey? They lost the finals yesterday i think
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| Posted: 05/12/21 6:57 am ::: |
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with Russell and Prince arriving late Sea can go
Bird/Canada/Williams
Loyd/Laksa or Gorecki
KLS/Burke
Dupree/MHH/Talbot
Stewart/Magbegor
and then wait to see who to cut when Russell and Prince arrive
I wouldn't count my chickens if I was Burke or Herbert-Harrigan because Laksa and Gorecki are coming hard for those last two spots |
No, they have room to temp suspend and add one player, they don't have room to do it with two. So it's not 12 plus Russell and Prince, it's 11. |
Arent Russell and Prince done in Turkey? They lost the finals yesterday i think |
It’s about a week of quarantine, or maybe 48 hrs if they’re fully vaxxed up. Then after that they’ll probably be resting up on the bench.
Wasn’t Prince the player who said she needed extra rest after an overseas stint back when she was with Chicago, and everyone went bat-ish crazy?
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Transactions
May 11, 2021
Seattle Storm: Natalie Kucowski – Waived
Seattle Storm: Tamera Young – Waived
Connecticut Sun: Micaela Kelly – Waivers Cleared
Connecticut Sun: Feyonda Fitzgerald – Waivers Cleared
Connecticut Sun: Morgan Bertsch – Waivers Cleared
Atlanta Dream: Lindsey Pulliam – Waivers Cleared
Atlanta Dream: Kaela Davis – Waivers Cleared
Dallas Wings: Dee Givens – Waivers Cleared
Phoenix Mercury: Marta Xargay – Waivers Cleared
Phoenix Mercury: Avery Talbert-Warley – Waivers Cleared
Phoenix Mercury: Akela Maize – Waivers Cleared
Chicago Sky: Petra Holesinka – Waivers Cleared
Las Vegas Aces: Lauren Manis – Waived
Las Vegas Aces: Shakayla Thomas – Waived
New York Liberty: Valerie Higgins – Waived
Minnesota Lynx: Linnae Harper – Waived
Washington Mystics: G’mrice Davis – Waived
Connecticut Sun: Aleah Goodman – Waived
Connecticut Sun: Brianna Fraser – Waived
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| Posted: 05/12/21 9:00 am ::: |
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| Stormeo wrote: |
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Storm waive Natalie Kucowski and Tamera Young
Aces waive Lauren Manis and Shakayla Thomas |
Aces appear to be the first team to 11, but judging by her lack of minutes in their now infamous preseason game (much like Manis and Thomas), I'm very skeptical that Destiny Slocum will indeed be sticking around. Teams can't carry below 11 players at any given time, so I'm thinking another move is coming. Coincidentally, the Storm have simultaneously made the first interesting cut so far in former Aces player Tamera Young, who of course primarily plays the same position Angel McCoughtry plays... |
I read in a story that the Aces GM has a thng ( as a player ) based on her game against UConn in the playoffs when she was a freshman so she may not get cut based on friends in high places. This expains why they drafted her when there were better catch and shoot player options available. She is decent 3pr shooter but nothing outstanding. Possible she didn't play because the GM made her a lock. What an idiot. But then thats not unusual for GMs in the WNBA. |
Another case of opportunity and going to the right team. I think part of why she transferred to Arky last year was because Goodman was better than her. Now Goodman is waived and Slocum may hang on. |
In this case it was more of a GM indulging in personal stupidity. He made it clear that he picked Slocum based entirely on her showing against UConn when she played for Maryland her freshman season. An example of being enamoreed by flash rather than substance. Goodman whould have been the perfect choice for the Aces. I believe she was even mocked to them. To evaluate a player based on one game five years ago is the ultimate of stupidity. He must be a buddy of Davis.
Makes you wonder why the WNBA is still around. it certainly is not becaue of the competence of the people running the show. But that is not so unusual. I don't believe most of the teams do due diligence scouting players. They basically just go by reputation and the few high profile nationally broadcast games that they might have seen.
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