View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Howee
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 15838 Location: OREGON (in my heart)
Back to top |
|
ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 11403
Back to top |
Posted: 03/23/21 8:55 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Does an action benefit P5 football? Does an action add to collegiate control over athletes? Does an action generate income? Does an action preserve the existing structure of a multi-billion dollar business?
_________________ Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
|
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7884 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 03/24/21 9:27 am ::: |
Reply |
|
NELL YEAH! Nell is someone whose voice can make a big difference here. (And I admire what she's doing with the Tech team too.)
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
Posted: 03/25/21 1:28 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Congress wants answers from NCAA after weight room disparity at women’s basketball tournament
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/25/congress-wants-answers-from-ncaa-after-weight-room-disparity-at-womens-basketball-tournament.html
Quote: |
Officials claim the NCAA has “stark differences in the conditioning facilities, food, publicity and marketing, and even the use of less accurate Covid tests” around the women’s event. The letter calls for the NCAA to honor Title IX, which forbids gender discrimination throughout federally funded education institutions. |
Surely something will get done now that the House of Representatives is on the case...
_________________ The truth is like poetry
Most people hate poetry
|
|
Howee
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 15838 Location: OREGON (in my heart)
Back to top |
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
Posted: 03/25/21 6:43 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
People sure aren't holding back!
Quote: |
With all that brainpower in NCAA headquarters — contrary to the caricature of the place, most of the people who work there are bright and care deeply about doing their jobs well — you wouldn't think it necessary to hire New York law firm Kaplan Hecker to commission an expensive report about whether your championship tournaments have gender equity gaps after issues were made public by women’s basketball players and coaches last week. |
Quote: |
Unfortunately, that’s what the academics have decided they want the NCAA president to be. They don’t want a leader or a problem solver or a visionary for the future. They want someone who does the job exactly the way Emmert does: Risk nothing, accomplish little, build a maze of committees and subcommittees and hand off the hard work in a crisis to a boutique law firm that will advise them to do obvious things they should have been doing in the first place. |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2021/03/25/ncaa-womens-tournament-lawyers-arent-solution-gender-equity-woes/7002705002/
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7884 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
Posted: 03/25/21 7:04 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
I promise that no organization ever has a review, "independent" or not, without knowing the outcome beforehand
_________________ The truth is like poetry
Most people hate poetry
|
|
Marquette Fan
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 3582
Back to top |
Posted: 03/25/21 8:36 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
pilight wrote: |
I promise that no organization ever has a review, "independent" or not, without knowing the outcome beforehand |
Yep - that was my reaction when I saw the alert come out that the NCAA had done this. Nothing productive is going to come out of this.
|
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
Posted: 03/25/21 9:21 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Marquette Fan wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
I promise that no organization ever has a review, "independent" or not, without knowing the outcome beforehand |
Yep - that was my reaction when I saw the alert come out that the NCAA had done this. Nothing productive is going to come out of this. |
And what a waste of money it is.
Quote: |
Now, of course, the NCAA is going to shell out more hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers — money that would have been much better spent on the front end had a few people with emotional intelligence looked at the amenity budgets between the two tournaments and realized that in 2021 you can’t have a difference between the men and the women. |
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7884 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
|
tfan
Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 9990
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 12:57 am ::: |
Reply |
|
I am aware of all the lifting that goes on in basketball, but I am surprised it still goes on during a season ending tournament. I would have thought that they would want to stop then. Or actually, they would perform better if they stopped then. In sports like boxing and track I believe all training (not just weight lifting) tapers off before the big competition. And I think it is to the point where the last day or two there is nothing. I seem to recall the concept being that your muscles get "broken down" to some extent in a hard workout and you want them fresh as a daisy for the competition. Although there must be a trade off to where at some point a lack of lifting causes a decline in the muscles. But I would have guessed you could go a few weeks without a significant drop off.
Last edited by tfan on 03/27/21 1:07 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
undersized_post
Joined: 01 Mar 2021 Posts: 2864
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 1:06 am ::: |
Reply |
|
tfan wrote: |
I am aware of all the lifting that goes on in basketball, but I am surprised it still goes on during a season ending tournament. I would have thought that they would want to stop then. Or actually, they would perform better if they stopped then. In sports like boxing and track I believe all training (not just weight lifting) tapers off before the big competition. And I think it is to the point where the last day or two there is nothing. I seem to recall the concept being that your muscles get "broken down" to some extent in a hard workout and you want them fresh as a daisy for the competition. Surprised they want to add weight lifting on top of practice. |
Iowa played the first two rounds on Sunday and Tuesday, scout/film Wednesday, practice and lift on Thursday, practice Friday but no team lift, game Saturday.
Twitter feed of the lift (lol): https://twitter.com/IowaWBB/status/1375250137853870080?s=20
I have a feeling this was posted to Twitter as a jest at the NCAA to show that the weights in fact would be used.
|
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 10:24 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Why can't NCAA get women's basketball right?
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports/ncaaw/2021/03/27/march-madness-why-cant-ncaa-get-womens-basketball-right/7012017002/
Quote: |
In discussing interviews that allowed hundreds of people connected with women’s basketball to have input, Ackerman wrote: “My principal observation from the interviews is that there is a tremendous appetite for change in the way Division I women’s basketball is played, marketed and managed. In many cases, the comments I received were tinged with frustration, as it was noted that some of the ideas now being discussed have been ‘kicking around for years,’ demonstrating the difficulty of making change within the NCAA system. No one I spoke with advocated a laissez fair or ‘wait and see’ approach to women’s basketball; the overriding sentiment was that changes of some kind were clearly in order and that the time for action is now.”
Does this sound familiar? |
_________________ The truth is like poetry
Most people hate poetry
|
|
ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 11403
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 4:59 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
>Why can't NCAA get women's basketball right?
Because it's not football or men's basketball.
_________________ Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
|
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 5:19 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Some of the numbers.
Quote: |
Although the NCAA Division I men's basketball championship budget for the 2018-19 season was $28 million -- almost twice as much as the women's budget -- information provided by the NCAA on Friday also shows the men's tournament brought in a total net income of $864.6 million that season. The women's event lost $2.8 million -- the largest loss of any NCAA championship. |
Quote: |
In the men's tournament, all 32 first- and second-round games are played at neutral sites and result in additional expenses. The men's tournament also has four more teams and an additional round (the First Four).
The NCAA points to the savings made by the reduced expenses for those games as the biggest component explaining a large chunk of the discrepancy in the budgets, but in the information provided to ESPN, the organization specifically details a difference of only $7.1 million: |
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31141363/ncaa-budget-men-basketball-tournament-almost-twice-much-women-budget
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
|
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
Posted: 03/27/21 5:24 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Not sure how taking money from sites that bid to host subregionals results in more expenses
_________________ The truth is like poetry
Most people hate poetry
|
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67491 Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
|
Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 9274
Back to top |
|
|
|