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PostPosted: 04/24/21 10:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just be glad that netball never cracked the US. The UK, Australia and New Zealand lose plenty of basketball players to that, and it's basically basketball without the dribbling.



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PostPosted: 04/26/21 6:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good God - Clay is not informed, he has opinions. All of you have broken down the problems in the world of sport to justify 24 more spots in a league. TWENTY-FOUR. There will always be athletes who want to play at the highest level. Think NFL - concussions and all the blow back, and soccer, with kids heading the ball - even all the negatives, kids will play and their parents will want them to play. If your daughter/son picks up any ball, you encourage and you help them to love the game of choice - you dont push them. Do you love anything your parents MADE you do? Philly can support a team, as can many other markets. Needed are guaranteed top 3 pick, which is part of the CBA, and the players plucked from other teams - you don't just start at scratch. Each team can protect a certain # of players, 6-8, and the others are picked by the expansion teams. That, with likely a bad first 2 years, guarantees top 4 picks in the draft in forthcoming years - ie, Seattle, MIN, LV, LA - who all built successful programs based on good timing of being bad. Expand the league!


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PostPosted: 04/26/21 7:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

From a strictly athletic point of view, the notion that there aren't enough players to expand is insupportable. Athletically, the United States could easily support 150 WNBA teams or more. We have 328 million people here, half of whom are women. That number is really too big to grasp, so let's break it down:

Take a random group of 250 people. Out of that group you'll have 50-60 women between the ages of 18 and 45. Hold tryouts and choose the best 11 athletes as a basketball team. Put them in a four team league of other teams of similar construction. At the end of the season choose an All Star Team, the best players at each position. This is the first generation All Star team.

Put the first generation All Star team in a four team league with three other first generation All Star teams. At the end of the season, choose an All Star team of the All Star teams. This will be the second generation All Star team.

Put that team in a four team league with other such teams and after the season choose an All Star team from them. By now we should have a pretty decent team, don't you think? All the people who really can't play will have been weeded out at the very least.

Repeat the process twice more to get to the fifth generation All Star team. After that many iterations we should be down to all good players. If we took the fifth generation All Stars and said these players are good enough to play in our professional league, how many teams do you think we would have?

The correct answer is about 1280 teams. Each of the fifth generation All Star teams would represent 256,000 people. To get to our current number of teams, each of which represent about 27 million people, you would have to continue through about 8.5 generations. Obviously at that point the difference between players who make it and those who don't is infinitesimal. It would be like having every woman run 100m dash. The difference between the 132nd fastest (completing the 12th team) and the 500th fastest would probably be less than a hundredth of a second. It certainly wouldn't be a tenth of a second.

Allowing unlimited participation of non-US players expands the talent base even further. Add Australia and other WBB hotspots to the pool and the number of teams the WNBA can support grows.



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PostPosted: 04/26/21 11:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Problem with that logic is that India and China should be able to field 8*1280 teams since each has about 4 times the population of the US. Ultimately they should be able to produce 8 WNBA quality leagues. Yet, there seems to be no player from India who is playing the WNBA and very players from China that are WNBA quality.

Also - the difference between the 10 best WNBA players and the 10 worst is huge, yet the 10 worst players were often the best players by far in the college conferences. And the 10 worst players on college teams were probably among the best players in their high school leagues.....


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PostPosted: 04/26/21 11:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Problem with that logic is that India and China should be able to field 8*1280 teams since each has about 4 times the population of the US. Ultimately they should be able to produce 8 WNBA quality leagues. Yet, there seems to be no player from India who is playing the WNBA and very players from China that are WNBA quality.


They could if they had the history/tradition in the sport, youth development programs, and institutional support the US has.



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PostPosted: 04/26/21 11:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A 1280 team league would be so much fun -- putting together a schedule, figuring out the playoff brackets, keeping track of the salary cap for all teams...



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PostPosted: 04/26/21 11:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Randy wrote:
Problem with that logic is that India and China should be able to field 8*1280 teams since each has about 4 times the population of the US. Ultimately they should be able to produce 8 WNBA quality leagues. Yet, there seems to be no player from India who is playing the WNBA and very players from China that are WNBA quality.


They could if they had the history/tradition in the sport, youth development programs, and institutional support the US has.


This kind of brings us backs to Clay's point that the weakening of the youth game and tradition in the US overtime will hinder the professional talent pool. I don't necessarily agree with Clay's assessment.


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