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Will Loeffler still be a Dream co-owner by the time the 2021 season starts up? |
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Randy
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craigmont
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Bob Lamm
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tfan
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Posted: 01/17/21 3:41 am ::: |
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"... Loeffler, the Atlanta Dream co-owner who had been a vocal critic of the league’s stance on racial justice and equality last summer"
That seems like a mischaracterization of the league's stance and what Loeffler was opposing.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/17/21 7:56 am ::: |
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Can we please not copy and paste entire articles? More than ever websites and journalists survive via hits/ad-views, and that one's not even behind a paywall. Plus going to these places shows that there's interest in articles on women's basketball, which leads to more coverage. Reproducing it in full is also kinda illegal. |
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/17/21 1:51 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
Can we please not copy and paste entire articles? More than ever websites and journalists survive via hits/ad-views, and that one's not even behind a paywall. Plus going to these places shows that there's interest in articles on women's basketball, which leads to more coverage. Reproducing it in full is also kinda illegal. |
Sorry I didn't see this problem myself. I agree on all counts. Thanks, Richyyy, for this valuable statement.
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Bob Lamm
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Randy
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Posted: 01/18/21 8:58 am ::: |
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Perdue is already gone. His term was up before the runoff. I think Loeffler is finished as far as running for office. I would not be surprised to see Perdue run against Warnock in 2022.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/18/21 12:41 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Perdue is already gone. His term was up before the runoff. I think Loeffler is finished as far as running for office. I would not be surprised to see Perdue run against Warnock in 2022. |
Perdue would surely be a formidable candidate. In November he won slightly more votes in Georgia than Trump. When the 2022 election takes place, Perdue will be almost 73 years old. Perhaps he won't feel eager for another electoral battle.
Obviously 2022 will be a year in which the WNBA players and their supporters will need to work hard to reelect Raphael Warnock.
I agree with you about Loeffler. Good riddance. Hoping she's gone soon from the WNBA.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 01/18/21 12:52 pm ::: |
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I wonder how the Dream’s free agency is going. Unless there’s currently a behind-the-scenes ownership change happening à la Las Vegas, Loeffler in all likelihood will still be a co-owner through the crucial first several days of free agency.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 01/18/21 1:07 pm ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Unless there’s currently a behind-the-scenes ownership change happening à la Las Vegas, |
UPDATE: Things are in fact happening behind the scenes. Mary Brock, the other Dream co-owner, is apparently in the process of selling her stake.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/01/18/kelly-loeffler-wnba-dream-mlk/
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A spokesperson for the NBA, the parent company of the WNBA, confided to me recently that the league expected Loeffler to be out of its ranks soon. The other Dream co-owner, Mary Brock, was expected to sell her half share.
“We understand a sale of the franchise is close to being finalized,” the spokesperson texted me. “Once the sale negotiation is concluded, additional information will be provided.”
That action does not, however, require Loeffler to sell her share. Which is why the league should act. |
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/18/21 3:17 pm ::: |
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Thanks, Stormeo, for posting that great column by Keith Blackistone for the Washington Post.
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Queenie
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Posted: 01/18/21 6:33 pm ::: |
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Am I the only mildly alarmed that Brock is selling *before* Loeffler? Unless the new owner is rock-solid on an unprecedented level, that creates an unknown Atlanta doesn't need on top of Loeffler.
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Randy
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Posted: 01/18/21 8:41 pm ::: |
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I am only guessing, but if Loeffler sold out to Brock, there might be no rush to get new owners in. Brock might be afraid she would be left holding the bag if the new owners just evaporate. Loeffler is the radioactive party - the one the WNBA will pay to get lost.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/18/21 9:04 pm ::: |
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I am very skeptical of the rumors that Brock may be selling before Loeffler. Hard to imagine anyone wanting to buy Brock's half of the team and be stuck with Loeffler as co-owner. My guess: if there's anyone seriously interested and ready to make a move, they will want to buy out Brock and Loeffler simultaneously.
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Stormeo
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craigmont
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Posted: 01/19/21 10:33 am ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
Can we please not copy and paste entire articles? More than ever websites and journalists survive via hits/ad-views, and that one's not even behind a paywall. Plus going to these places shows that there's interest in articles on women's basketball, which leads to more coverage. Reproducing it in full is also kinda illegal. |
Okay, edited.
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Randy
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Bob Lamm
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Randy
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Posted: 01/19/21 5:53 pm ::: |
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OK Bob no video, but here is story about it from "the media."
https://www.ajc.com/politics/loeffler-describe-senate-tenure-as-honor-of-my-lifetime-in-farewell-speech/MOJAKJA6JVHPBA4QLWRFANB5KM/
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In it, she described herself as a champion of conservative values who strived to put Georgia and Georgians first. But she also carried over grievances from her failed runoff campaign, including anger at the media and claims that she had been victimized by “cancel culture.” |
I had no idea there was something called the cancel culture, but I'm guessing fans and players that want her out of the WNBA are in it. And of course, what farewell speech would be complete without blaming the "media" for printing the things she said. If only we had a state run media everything would be just fine....
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/19/21 6:40 pm ::: |
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Just for you, Randy, I read the news story from the horrible "media." But I am NOT going to watch the attached video of Kelly Loeffler's farewell remarks.
She calls herself a victim of the "cancel culture." Hey, Kelly, here's how this works. The United States and many other countries have this thing called elections. You were appointed, quite legally, to the U.S. Senate. Then you had to run in an election to win the final two years of that Senate term. The voters CANCELED you, just as they canceled David Perdue and Donald Trump. Didn't Georgia voters have the right to do that?
Also, Kelly, when you say you strived to put Georgia and Georgians first... wasn't that sentence supposed to have the word WHITE in it?
And, finally, Kelly, when you congratulate your successor but won't say his name, that vividly demonstrates one more time what a phony you are. Not even a principled conservative, just an opportunist who would swing whatever way the wind blows.
Hooray again for the WNBA players whose leadership was crucial in electing Raphael Warnock instead of Kelly Loeffler. How can we CANCEL Kelly as a WNBA owner?
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BamaEd
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Randy
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Posted: 01/19/21 7:52 pm ::: |
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Thanks for posting that Ed. No mention of the confusing part about Loeffler buying out Brock.
Says the team lost about $2 million per year for the last 2 seasons. I guess the Gateway arena should cost a lot less than State Farm, but salaries have gone up. If the new owners are LeBron's group - they seem able to afford it.
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 01/19/21 8:15 pm ::: |
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Interesting that 2 teams are being sold in the same off season. I guess it's kind of a good sign that they've been able to find two prospective buyers in the same season. Although the circumstances are pretty different.
Will be really interesting to see who the owner will be.
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