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| Orrrrrr maybe she wouldn't mind getting cut where it could possibly lead to a tryout here in Seattle... |
Stewarta's a cute couple, and Vanderquigs have proven that it can work, but...whose spot would she take? I'm not sure I'd be confortable with the implications of...is nepotism the right word?
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| Posted: 05/02/21 3:20 pm ::: |
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| Orrrrrr maybe she wouldn't mind getting cut where it could possibly lead to a tryout here in Seattle... |
Stewarta's a cute couple, and Vanderquigs have proven that it can work, but...whose spot would she take? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with the implications of...is nepotism the right word? |
It might be nepotism or something like it, but at the same time, it's not like we don't have a spot or two open. It'd be very possible for Xargay with her wealth of overseas experience to come in & beat out young players like Williams and Laksa for a spot. Plus, she's enough of a PG to back-up the 1, and has enough size/shooting to back-up the 2. Hell, imo she could even put Prince's spot in jeopardy...
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| Posted: 05/02/21 4:34 pm ::: |
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| IMO the spots most likely to change hands are Cunningham's and Peddy's. Cunningham simply hasn't shown a whole lot within the scope of her first two years. Peddy, one heroic playoff shot aside, is also still firmly a fringe player. Too, being even later to camp than Xargay may hurt her chances at retaining her spot. (But at least if she does get cut, the Mystics could consider bringing her back.) Overall, if Xargay performs well/is her usual self in camp, I think she could certainly snag herself one of those spots. Orrrrrr maybe she wouldn't mind getting cut where it could possibly lead to a tryout here in Seattle... |
Huh? Sophie was a starter for a while during the bubble season and actually did pretty well given the circumstances. I don’t think she’s a full-time starter, but she’s had her moments and has shown some promise as a complimentary player. Plus, she’s cheap at the moment and was coming off having Covid last season.
Peddy I’m not that sure of. But, I’m not fully sure the other guards in camp are any better than her.
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TotalCardinalMove
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| I think this year could be pivotal for both Sophie and Alanna. They both had some really good moments last year, but haven’t been able to fully put everything together. I’m hoping we see more out of Megan since she will be coming into the season healthy.
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| Posted: 05/02/21 5:14 pm ::: |
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| Orrrrrr maybe she wouldn't mind getting cut where it could possibly lead to a tryout here in Seattle... |
Stewarta's a cute couple, and Vanderquigs have proven that it can work, but...whose spot would she take? I'm not sure I'd be confortable with the implications of...is nepotism the right word? |
Stewie popped the question today in Phoenix. Happy for them!
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| Posted: 05/02/21 6:11 pm ::: |
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Huh? Sophie was a starter for a while during the bubble season and actually did pretty well given the circumstances. I don’t think she’s a full-time starter, but she’s had her moments and has shown some promise as a complimentary player. Plus, she’s cheap at the moment and was coming off having Covid last season.
Peddy I’m not that sure of. But, I’m not fully sure the other guards in camp are any better than her.
I think this year could be pivotal for both Sophie and Alanna. They both had some really good moments last year, but haven’t been able to fully put everything together. I’m hoping we see more out of Megan since she will be coming into the season healthy. |
Maybe Cunningham was better defensively, since her stats say she averaged 5 PPG on 39% FG (24% 3PT), 1 RPG, and less than 1 APG. Again, my interpretation from the admittedly limited action I saw from her was rooted in an overall lack of consistency. I agree though, this will be a big year for the Class of 2019 players. Ya really need to start establishing your presence in Year 3 if you haven't already – otherwise your team will eventually give up on you & find someone better.
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Huh? Sophie was a starter for a while during the bubble season and actually did pretty well given the circumstances. I don’t think she’s a full-time starter, but she’s had her moments and has shown some promise as a complimentary player. Plus, she’s cheap at the moment and was coming off having Covid last season.
Peddy I’m not that sure of. But, I’m not fully sure the other guards in camp are any better than her.
I think this year could be pivotal for both Sophie and Alanna. They both had some really good moments last year, but haven’t been able to fully put everything together. I’m hoping we see more out of Megan since she will be coming into the season healthy. |
Maybe Cunningham was better defensively, since her stats say she averaged 5 PPG on 39% FG (24% 3PT), 1 RPG, and less than 1 APG. Again, my interpretation from the admittedly limited action I saw from her was rooted in an overall lack of consistency. I agree though, this will be a big year for the Class of 2019 players. Ya really need to start establishing your presence in Year 3 if you haven't already – otherwise your team will eventually give up on you & find someone better. |
Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses.
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| Posted: 05/03/21 6:59 am ::: |
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Huh? Sophie was a starter for a while during the bubble season and actually did pretty well given the circumstances. I don’t think she’s a full-time starter, but she’s had her moments and has shown some promise as a complimentary player. Plus, she’s cheap at the moment and was coming off having Covid last season.
Peddy I’m not that sure of. But, I’m not fully sure the other guards in camp are any better than her.
I think this year could be pivotal for both Sophie and Alanna. They both had some really good moments last year, but haven’t been able to fully put everything together. I’m hoping we see more out of Megan since she will be coming into the season healthy. |
Maybe Cunningham was better defensively, since her stats say she averaged 5 PPG on 39% FG (24% 3PT), 1 RPG, and less than 1 APG. Again, my interpretation from the admittedly limited action I saw from her was rooted in an overall lack of consistency. I agree though, this will be a big year for the Class of 2019 players. Ya really need to start establishing your presence in Year 3 if you haven't already – otherwise your team will eventually give up on you & find someone better. |
She was an excellent complementary piece when she was inserted into the starting lineup. Just one of those players that fit well. I mean, at the end of the day..our best three guards were clearly Taurasi, Hartley, and Diggins - and obviously we want to get back to that.
Now, that being said..I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have.
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Yeah, I agree about her 2020 season. She was a handy role player so I'm a little surprised by mentions of cutting her.
If we do it's certainly a good sign for the quality of our roster.
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| Posted: 05/03/21 10:51 am ::: |
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| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games.
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| Posted: 05/03/21 12:13 pm ::: |
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| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games. |
One thing about her is that she could play the 4 if we went small. She was a forward that played like a stretch 4.
As much as I think Nurse brings more than Cunningham, I'm not 100% sold that Walker does.
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| Posted: 05/03/21 5:41 pm ::: |
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| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games. |
One thing about her is that she could play the 4 if we went small. She was a forward that played like a stretch 4.
As much as I think Nurse brings more than Cunningham, I'm not 100% sold that Walker does. |
I think Walker *could* be a better defender and rebounder than Cunningham.
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| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games. |
One thing about her is that she could play the 4 if we went small. She was a forward that played like a stretch 4.
As much as I think Nurse brings more than Cunningham, I'm not 100% sold that Walker does. |
I think Walker *could* be a better defender and rebounder than Cunningham. |
It took Walker a little bit to get going at UConn - and that was without any Covid in the picture. I think Megan will (eventually) be a stud in Phoenix.
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2021 PHOENIX MERCURY ROSTER PROJECTIONS:
[b]PG: SKYLAR DIGGINS-SMITH, BRIA HARTLEY, Tiana Mangakahia, Shey Peddy
SG: DIANA TAURASI, Marta Xargay, Sophie Cunningham
SF: KIA NURSE, MEGAN WALKER, Sara Blicavs
PF: BRIANA TURNER, ALANNA SMITH, Cierra Burdick
C: BRITTNEY GRINER, KIA VAUGHN, Cierra Johnson, Avery Worley-Tolbert, Akela Maize
BOLD AND ALL CAPS ARE LOCKS (SIX).
Non-bold ALL CAPS are likely (now nine).
Tiana Mangakahia, Marta Xargay, and Sophie Cunningham may be battling for one or two spots.
Cierra Johnson and Sara Blicavs may battle for a spot.
Cierra Burdick and Avery Warley-Talbert won’t be 11th player due to veteran minimums and salary cap implications.
Some will say Cunningham is very likely and Walker more of a maybe. Should be interesting.
If BG comes to play, Hartley recovers nicely, DT stays healthy, and Turner continues rapidly improving; with the addition of Nurse...I am liking this team.
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| Important season for Smith IMO, because she's more like AlaNaA sMiTh to me atm in terms of whether her performances warrants her name being in all caps. I'm a fan of hers, but a slightly concerned one.
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OFFICIAL: We’ve waived Akela Maize, Avery Warley-Talbert and Marta Xargay.
BOOYAH! Got any room in SEA?
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Phoenix Mercury per Twitter at 6:27pm:
“OFFICIAL: We’ve waived Akela Maize, Avery Warley-Talbert and Marta Xargay.”
2021 PHOENIX MERCURY ROSTER PROJECTIONS:
[b]PG: SKYLAR DIGGINS-SMITH, BRIA HARTLEY, Tiana Mangakahia, Shey Peddy
SG: DIANA TAURASI, SOPHIE CUNNINGHAM
SF: KIA NURSE, MEGAN WALKER, Sara Blicavs
PF: BRIANA TURNER, ALANNA SMITH, Cierra Burdick
C: BRITTNEY GRINER, KIA VAUGHN, Ciera Johnson
SDS, BH, DT, KN, BT, and BG are solid locks (that is six).
SC, AS, and KV are likely (now at nine). MW as well (now at 10).
Leaves Tiana, Shey, Sara, Cierra, and Cierra battling for one spot.
Salary cap may preclude it from being Burdick.
My heart wants Tiana.
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Observations from a meaningless preseason game:
Love my Aussies, yet Alanna Smith and Sara Blicavs have poor defense.
Cierra Burdick is the only reserve post who slightly impressed.
For Seattle, Girecki and Laksa have nice shooting strokes.
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| Posted: 05/08/21 10:01 pm ::: |
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OFFICIAL: We’ve waived Akela Maize, Avery Warley-Talbert and Marta Xargay.
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I totally forgot who Maize was and had to look up where she came from. I guess she must have been performing overseas to get picked up at all.
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Phoenix Suns/Mercury new training facility:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVIHNOgrBOA
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| TotalCardinalMove wrote: |
| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games. |
One thing about her is that she could play the 4 if we went small. She was a forward that played like a stretch 4.
As much as I think Nurse brings more than Cunningham, I'm not 100% sold that Walker does. |
I think Walker *could* be a better defender and rebounder than Cunningham. |
It took Walker a little bit to get going at UConn - and that was without any Covid in the picture. I think Megan will (eventually) be a stud in Phoenix. |
I agree, and she played out of position at UCONN. She is a big guard who can shoot, pass, rebound, and defend. Her last year at UCONN, she put up great stats, but she played on the worst UCONN team since 2005, so that hindered her a bit.
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| The Mercury waived Cierra Burdick.
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| Just defensively and overall energy, it was a noticeable difference when she was inserted in the starting lineup. I do agree, consistency is an issue for her, but that is pretty common for a lot of inexperienced players. Again, she didn’t really get to work out at all in the off-season leading up to year 2 (she believed she had Covid twice), so I think all things considered she did fine. I’m intrigued to see what she can do with an entire offseason to prepare and work on some of her weaknesses. |
I forgot about that. Yeah, that could've impacted her overall performance last season, especially in the beginning of the season.
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| I don't think she brings anything that Nurse won't bring, but Cunningham is cheap and if she's around good offensive players, she's a good player to have. |
The acquisitions of Nurse and Walker, who play the same positions as Cunningham, don't seem like a vote of confidence in Cunningham's favor to me. Still, she could very well be better as a result of competing against them in practice & playing around them/more talent in games. |
One thing about her is that she could play the 4 if we went small. She was a forward that played like a stretch 4.
As much as I think Nurse brings more than Cunningham, I'm not 100% sold that Walker does. |
I think Walker *could* be a better defender and rebounder than Cunningham. |
Looks like she got outplayed by Cunningham in today’s scrimmage. It’s just a scrimmage of course, but I’m just not convinced she’s worth keeping for 63k.
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