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PostPosted: 05/29/20 12:27 pm    ::: Re: George Floyd Reply Reply with quote




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PostPosted: 05/29/20 1:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

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Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

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Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.


May he be fucked by the biggest and longest black incarcerated dick in the state of Minnesota.



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 4:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Genero36 wrote:
pilight wrote:
One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

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Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.


May he be fucked by the biggest and longest black incarcerated dick in the state of Minnesota.


He will. Let's just hope the other three cops also get arrested.



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 6:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

George Floyd death: Experts say knee-to-neck restraint is dangerous, but Minneapolis allows it

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The way a Minneapolis police officer restrained George Floyd before he died — placing his knee on Floyd's neck while the man lay on his stomach — is widely discredited by law enforcement experts because it can cause suffocation.

But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.


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PostPosted: 05/29/20 6:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Genero36 wrote:
pilight wrote:
One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

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Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.


May he be fucked by the biggest and longest black incarcerated dick in the state of Minnesota.


He will. Let's just hope the other three cops also get arrested.


....before Trump pardons him, at least. Evil or Very Mad

Much as Chauvin deserves that, I think the other officers in attendance there must be held accountable, also: I wouldn't let a person do that to a DOG without speaking out, and they stood there, passively and complicitly.



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 7:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Genero36 wrote:
pilight wrote:
One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

Quote:
Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.


May he be fucked by the biggest and longest black incarcerated dick in the state of Minnesota.


He will. Let's just hope the other three cops also get arrested.


....before Trump pardons him, at least. Evil or Very Mad

Much as Chauvin deserves that, I think the other officers in attendance there must be held accountable, also: I wouldn't let a person do that to a DOG without speaking out, and they stood there, passively and complicitly.



“ But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.” It’s considered a valid practice in their rule book.


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PostPosted: 05/29/20 7:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Howee wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Genero36 wrote:
pilight wrote:
One of the killers has been arrested

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-protests-erupt-overnight-george-floyds-death-minneapolis/story?id=70924047

Quote:
Michael Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney announced that Derek Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.


May he be fucked by the biggest and longest black incarcerated dick in the state of Minnesota.


He will. Let's just hope the other three cops also get arrested.


....before Trump pardons him, at least. Evil or Very Mad

Much as Chauvin deserves that, I think the other officers in attendance there must be held accountable, also: I wouldn't let a person do that to a DOG without speaking out, and they stood there, passively and complicitly.


“ But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.” It’s considered a valid practice in their rule book.


But NOT FOR 8 MINUTES TIL HE STOPS BREATHING. I'd think the 'timing' part isn't printed out in that manual, cuz that's called common sense, which is apparently in short supply.



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 7:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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But there are, at least in my area, psychological tests that must be passed. And then a probation period of months where the trainee first observes, and then works with an existing officer, and then is only observed by an existing officer.


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PostPosted: 05/29/20 8:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Also of note: Few states require police academies to be CALEA accredited and even fewer require independent testing to ensure prospective officers actually learn what they're supposed to.



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tfan wrote:

“But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.” It’s considered a valid practice in their rule book.


Valid practice on a handcuffed man? Doesn’t seem too intuitive on your part. I’ll take the word of my mayor (starting at 15:50) over your google expertise.
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Shades wrote:
tfan wrote:

“But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.” It’s considered a valid practice in their rule book.


Valid practice on a handcuffed man? Doesn’t seem too intuitive on your part. I’ll take the word of my mayor (starting at 15:50) over your google expertise.
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The idea of putting a knee on a neck in any situation was derided as inhuman and something the other officers should have protested. I was pointing out that a knee to the neck is authorized, not saying it was authorized for 8.5 minutes or after a suspect is passed out or after they are handcuffed. But it may be authorized even after handcuffing to get a suspect compliant as they even authorize it to render someone unconscious (see below). The mayor may have been grandstanding or was lied to when he claimed it isn’t authorized at all.

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In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect’s neck is allowed under the department’s use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway. It is considered a “non-deadly force option,” according to the department’s policy handbook.


https://fox59.com/news/crimetracker/minneapolis-mayor-officer-who-put-knee-on-mans-neck-should-be-charged/

Usa Today appears to have quotes from the manual that show the mayor, a politician not a police officer, is wrong. They also quote it as being OK to use to render someone unconscious.

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That's allowed in order to control someone with "light to moderate pressure" or "with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure." The latter act is authorized only to protect officer lives with a suspect who is "actively aggressive" and cannot be controlled by lesser methods.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/29/george-floyd-experts-say-neck-restraint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/




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If it's non-deadly, he clearly did it wrong



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PostPosted: 05/29/20 11:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So the New York Times is no longer allowing me to post comments on their website. Shocked Reminding everyone that that’s where I started posting opinions on the internet.

This is what they didn’t let me post today. Relevant to the last few posts here. Quote is from the article I was commenting on.

“It is a technique that we don’t use as much anymore because of the vulnerability,” said Mylan Masson, a former police officer who ran a training program for the Minneapolis police for 15 years until 2016. “We try to stay away from the neck as much as possible.”


Well, therein lies the problem. The option appears to be there and as it is available it will be used. Why anything that could result in death would be available to a police officer to use on a person who is already handcuffed behind his back and facedown on the ground is another issue.

If we can take some of these options, and undoubtedly more, off the menu and establish that use of them and the result will immediately find police officers fired for using them and criminally charged for the result we might eliminate some needless deaths and everything that follows.



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