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FrozenLVFan



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PostPosted: 07/02/21 7:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here are some statistics to think about...

>99% of deaths from COVID are occurring in unvaccinated people in the US.

Only 10 states have more than 50% of their population fully vaccinated.

The 7-day rolling average of new cases is increasing again, 10% higher this week over last week.

26% of new cases are attributable to the Delta variant, although some experts feel the real number is >50%, and it's much more transmissible than both the original strain and the Alpha variant.

The states with low vaccination rates have a high prevalence of Delta and numbers of cases and hospitalizations are surging, mostly in the central part of the US.

The White House reportedly has a plan to send "strike teams" to 1000 hard-hit counties to assist with testing and vaccinations.

Other countries (e.g. UK and Israel) have had to increase restrictions.


Stats per CDC and Hopkins websites and Fauci/Walensky's latest briefing.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561419-5-states-where-the-coronavirus-delta-variant-is-spreading
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01696-3
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dangerous-is-the-delta-variant-and-will-it-cause-a-covid-surge-in-the-u-s/


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PostPosted: 07/02/21 8:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tuesday afternoon we were told that we were going to go to a passive screening (think honor system) on Thursday. I get in on Wednesday and have an email that Tuesday evening that changed and we were going to keep our regular meet people when they come in and ask them questions screening.

Something about OSHA and the state department of health (I think) and another one (labor?) got together and said that we need to continue was we were and are not allowed to change.

I'm too old for this.



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PostPosted: 07/27/21 3:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Antibodies from Sinovac's COVID-19 shot fade after about 6 months, booster helps - study

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As of end-June, Sinovac has delivered more than 1 billion doses of the vaccine, a major vaccination tool in China, Brazil, Indonesia and Chile.


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PostPosted: 07/27/21 11:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm ever-so curious: are we officially seeing a Third Wave? Or are we beyond that, even? And how does that align with what the epidemiologists were telling us in early 2020?



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PostPosted: 07/28/21 11:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
I'm ever-so curious: are we officially seeing a Third Wave? Or are we beyond that, even? And how does that align with what the epidemiologists were telling us in early 2020?


I don't ever remember hearing an explanation of why there would be waves. Fauci started talking in the spring about a second wave in the fall and as a European who looked at our fall graph versus European graphs said: "You never got out of the first wave!".

The whole thing with waves - for a similar variant (which don't seem to be effected by weather) - may be solely from changes in human behavior. If people relax it comes back and if you tighten it goes down. The rise we are seeing may not be all "more contagious Delta variant" caused as our behavior is changing as well.


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PostPosted: 07/28/21 11:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pfizer says third vaccine shot 'strongly' boosts immune response against delta variant

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The company posted slides ahead of an earnings call, with data showing that antibody levels were five times higher after a third dose among people aged 18 to 55 against the delta variant, and 11 times higher among 65- to 85-year-olds.


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PostPosted: 07/28/21 4:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
I'm ever-so curious: are we officially seeing a Third Wave? Or are we beyond that, even? And how does that align with what the epidemiologists were telling us in early 2020?


If you look at the Hopkins graph, we had small bumps/waves last April and July, then the big one over the holidays, then a small one this April, and this one. Five. How big of a bump in cases does it take to be called a "wave"? Or is any bump sufficient if there was even a shallow valley in between?

I do think the epidemiologists and emerging disease experts have mostly been right. They clearly warned us about the effects of holiday travel and gatherings, and about the fallout when some of these variants took off.


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PostPosted: 07/28/21 9:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

THIS does NOT bode well!! Shocked

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Although the vaccines were never expected to be perfect, the findings raise questions about their protection and suggest that even vaccinated people could experience long-term symptoms such as such as fatigue, brain fog and shortness of breath.


This speaks to the things we've discussed earlier regarding the "Who Can Even Know This?" factor, given how young the pandemic really is.



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PostPosted: 07/29/21 9:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
THIS does NOT bode well!! Shocked

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Although the vaccines were never expected to be perfect, the findings raise questions about their protection and suggest that even vaccinated people could experience long-term symptoms such as such as fatigue, brain fog and shortness of breath.


This speaks to the things we've discussed earlier regarding the "Who Can Even Know This?" factor, given how young the pandemic really is.


Only 2.6% of the vaccinated people subsequently got COVID, and 19% of those (.49% of the total) developed persistent symptoms (up to six weeks). This is actually better than Pfizer's original data showing their vaccine to be 95% effective at preventing COVID, especially since this new study involved the more infectious alpha variant, and a far, far lower rate of persistent symptoms than in the unvaccinated.

The interesting part of the article was the suggestion that we need a complementary nasal spray vaccine to prevent the cold-like COVID cases that are being seen in vaccinated patients.


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PostPosted: 07/29/21 12:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
.... especially since this new study involved the more infectious alpha variant, and a far, far lower rate of persistent symptoms than in the unvaccinated.


Hmm. I thought the delta variant was the more infectious, no?



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PostPosted: 07/29/21 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
FrozenLVFan wrote:
.... especially since this new study involved the more infectious alpha variant, and a far, far lower rate of persistent symptoms than in the unvaccinated.


Hmm. I thought the delta variant was the more infectious, no?


Sorry for being unclear. In this new study, most of the patients had the alpha variant, which is more infectious than the original strain against which Pfizer tested its vaccine. Delta is more infectious than both of them.


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