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Keegan



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PostPosted: 09/01/05 9:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ahhh so it was those subversive frogs again...
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PostPosted: 09/01/05 9:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

and ultimately, the explanation from the AP photographer himself:

Jeasus, I don't belive how much crap I'm getting from this. First of all, I hope you excuse me, but I'm completely at the end of my rope. You have no Idea how stressful this whole disaster is, espically since I have not seen my wife in 5 days, and my parents and grand parents HAVE LOST THIER HOMES. As of right now, we have almost NOTHING.

Please stop emailing me on this one.

I wrote the caption about the two people who 'found' the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not 'looted' them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. there were a million items floating in the water - we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. it had no doors. the water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water. They would have floated away anyhow. I wouldn't have taken in, because I wouldn't eat anything that's been in that water. But I'm not homeless. (well, technically I am right now.)


I'm not trying to be politically correct. I'm don't care if you are white or black. I spent 4 hours on a boat in my parent's neighborhood shooting, and rescuing people, both black and white, dog and cat. I am a journalist, and a human being - and I see all as such. If you don't belive me, you can look on Getty today and see the images I shot of real looting today, and you will see white and black people, and they were DEFINATELY looting. And I put that in the caption.

Please, please don't argue symantics over this one. This is EXTREMELY serious, and I can't even begin to convey to those not here what it is like. Please, please, be more concerned on how this affects all of us (watch gas prices) and please, please help out if you can.

This is my home, I will hopefully always be here. I know that my friends in this business across the gulf south are going through the exact same thing - and I am with them, and will do whatever I can to help. But please, please don't email me any more about this caption issue.

And please, don't yell at me about spelling and grammar. Im eating my first real meal (a sandwich) right now in 3 days.

http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=17204


thesixthwoman



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PostPosted: 09/01/05 10:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

wow. thank you for finding that! if you read a little further down the thread, someone else posted this:


"To our readers: This photo was removed from Yahoo! News at the request of AFP. Yahoo! News statement on photo language controversy."

The AFP image was here:
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/photos_ts_afp/050830071810_shxwaoma_phot...

and you end up clicking to go here:
http://news.yahoo.com/page/photostatement


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PostPosted: 09/02/05 3:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

womens_hoops wrote:
in related and frightening news, some famous bloggers are calling on people to "shoot looters on sight."

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_08_28-2005_09_03.shtml#1125597101

http://instapundit.com/archives/025281.php

good lord...


The problem is that it's not just bloggers. White educated bloggers, by the way, who have never been hungry or thirsty or shoeless in their lives. It's a Louisiana state senator and NOW, tonight, the Gov. of Lousiana, K. Blanco, has said something like this, and I'm paraphrasing.

We're getting 10000 Nat. Gaurd, "FRESH" from Iraq, and you know they know how to shoot, and I suspect that's what they're going to be doing.

I think it's important to restore order. But I think it's a DISGRACE to even NOTICE the fact that VICTIMS of this catastrophe are looting stores. This is a human catastrophe in our own country that is playing out due to the ineptitude of our public officials and systems. These dirt poor people are MAD with heat, thirst, hunger, death and toxicity all around them. The looters are young uneducated and their desperation is unfathomable.

If you're white college educated, thousands of miles away from the disaster, sitting in air conditioning, and you're looking at this and are angry about property crimes right now, you don't deserve to breath the same air as good people.

You advocate the shooting on site of those victims?

Back at ya.



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PostPosted: 09/03/05 12:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kanye West quoted this semantic disparity before making the statement that Bush hates blacks.



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PostPosted: 09/03/05 1:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-02-katrinawalkthroughhell_x.htm

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When water began rising in predominantly black neighborhoods, many jumped to the conclusion that the levee had been purposely breached to preserve the old city and its hotels.

"F... the Quarter!" a black man shouts as he walks beneath a balcony where a resident lounges with a cold beer as generator roars away in the otherwise deathly night silence. "They always protect the Quarter."

Katrina's winds have left behind an information vacuum. And that vacuum has been filled by rumor. There is nothing to correct wild reports that armed gangs have taken over the convention center. That two babies had their throats slit in the night. That a 7-year-old girl was raped and killed at the Superdome. One officer calls these human cattle yards "lawless countries unto themselves."

After several days in the street with little water and less food, people around the convention center began imagining that the storm was somehow a vehicle for ethnic cleansing. One black man insists that authorities want everyone corralled into the convention center — not to facilitate an orderly evacuation, but so police can ignite the gas and blow them up.

"They want us all crazy so they can shoot us down like dogs!" a woman shouts. Police point their guns at the crowds and tell them to back off. The people take it as aggression. But when you look into these officers' eyes, there is real fear...


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