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pilight
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 Posted: 08/02/05 7:00 pm ::: Emily Niemann wants to leave Baylor |
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http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/stories/080205aad.html
"Due to the timing and circumstances of this request, Baylor University has denied Emily permission to speak with another institution about transferring," Baylor Director of Athletics Ian McCaw said.
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| Posted: 08/02/05 7:23 pm ::: |
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She was the only one I liked on that team, and now I like her even more.
I can't wait to see where she ends up.
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boilerjay
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| Posted: 08/02/05 8:03 pm ::: |
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So KMR is basically holding a player hostage.
It's odd that a gal who played such an integral role in a National Championship would want to do this, but if a player doesn't want to be there, why keep her there?
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wacokid
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| Posted: 08/03/05 5:11 am ::: Re: Emily Niemann wants to leave Baylor |
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| pilight wrote: |
http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/stories/080205aad.html
"Due to the timing and circumstances of this request, Baylor University has denied Emily permission to speak with another institution about transferring," Baylor Director of Athletics Ian McCaw said. |
Why don't you finish the quote instead of taking things out of context?
Baylor's athletic director finishes with:
"In accordance with NCAA regulations and our policies and procedures, Emily has requested an appeals hearing and that committee will convene in the near future to render its final decision on her request. Until that process is completed, we will have no additional comment on her status."
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wacokid
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| Posted: 08/03/05 5:21 am ::: |
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There is something fishy about this whole episode.
Why did Emily really quit?
It couldn't have been her explanation.
"It is with shock and personal disappointment that we announce Emily Niemann is leaving our program," said Mulkey-Robertson, who is on a family vacation and will have no further comment on Niemann's transfer request. "While on vacation this week I received an e-mail from Emily informing me that she wishes to leave Baylor. According to Emily's e-mail, she does not believe she can reach her full potential in our program.
Why would a person wait until two weeks before school starts to make an announcement about switching schools?
What a stab in the back. She really screwed Baylor.
Wow! To get an email like that while you are on vacation!!!
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| Posted: 08/03/05 7:10 am ::: |
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Coach Kim is on vacation, she got an e-mail from Emily saying
she wanted to leave Baylor because, she didn't feel she could
reach her full potential as a basketball player at Baylor. Coach
Kim was in complete Shock!! so is everyone at Baylor. The
coach is not going to do anything until she comes off vacation.
Emily cannot contact any other school until, a hearing at Baylor.
I'll keep you informed. Shock! shock! shock! to everyone here.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 8:26 am ::: |
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Seniors- especially ones who would likely start- don't leave for no reason. Nor do they leave for "good" reasons- like another school offers a more suitable academic program. I have a strong, strong suspicion- and that's all it is- that Emily is leaving Baylor for very personal reasons not related to the team- boy/girlfriend issues, family problems, "lost" God, "found" God but she's (of course God is a woman- it's the only explanation for my love life) someplace else, &c.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 10:57 am ::: |
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| It's so much of a young person's thing in this day and age - communicating only via email, changing on a dime, suddenly refusing to talk to people, being rude. But it plagues adults, too. I don't know what's up with the world anymore, and it worries me.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 11:00 am ::: |
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| Sass wrote: |
| It's so much of a young person's thing in this day and age - communicating only via email, changing on a dime, suddenly refusing to talk to people, being rude. But it plagues adults, too. I don't know what's up with the world anymore, and it worries me. |
Damn Sass, that's way too heavy for a Wednesday morning....
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PUmatty
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| Posted: 08/03/05 11:42 am ::: |
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| Rene Portland doesn't release a player from a scholarship and she is rightly vilified. Granted, there are different circumstances, but KMR doesn't release a player from a scholarship and no one is criticizing her. If Niemann wants to leave, she should be able to leave and Baylor should do nothing to stand in her way.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 11:57 am ::: |
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Fwiw, I have had the impression that: a) Baylor doesn't have the whole story on why Emily wants to leave, and is preserving the status quo until it does; and b) the e-mail may have been the only way for Emily to contact KMR when she was on vacation. Point being, I think it's a bit early to "villify" anyone just yet.
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| Rene Portland doesn't release a player from a scholarship and she is rightly vilified. Granted, there are different circumstances, but KMR doesn't release a player from a scholarship and no one is criticizing her. If Niemann wants to leave, she should be able to leave and Baylor should do nothing to stand in her way. |
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OldMan
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| Posted: 08/03/05 12:01 pm ::: |
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Matty -
The situations are different. Portland told the player she was not welcome back, then would not release her. Here, the player initiated the process in a manner not in accordance with NCAA regs. We don't know the circumstances which led to Niemann's decision, but it seems to me the AD is saying "Let's wait and get all the facts etc. before letting her walk away." Remember it's too late for KMR to fill that roster spot with a recruit, so she and the team are the ones who are being disadvantaged.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 12:30 pm ::: |
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| Remember it's too late for KMR to fill that roster spot with a recruit, so she and the team are the ones who are being disadvantaged. |
They are not the only ones being disadvantaged. By not respecting Niemann's decision, she is being disadvantaged. Sounds like an awfully paternalistic AD to me.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 5:15 pm ::: |
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| Sounds like an awfully paternalistic AD to me. |
After the tragedy in Baylor's men's basketball program, I'm not surprised that Ian McEwan sticks to NCAA rules.
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sbjules
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| Posted: 08/03/05 7:15 pm ::: |
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| I'm not surprised that Ian McEwan sticks to NCAA rules. |
Which rule says, don't release her?
When Erin Buescher wanted to leave UCSB, everyone cried but the University granted her release. And our coach & team wished her well. The fans....well.
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Gaucho Don
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| Posted: 08/03/05 9:40 pm ::: |
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| I'm not surprised that Ian McEwan sticks to NCAA rules. |
Which rule says, don't release her?
When Erin Buescher wanted to leave UCSB, everyone cried but the University granted her release. And our coach & team wished her well. The fans....well. |
Yeah, what rule says don't release her? And how did she initiate it that was not in accordance with NCAA regs?
I thought they were just not commenting until the appeal that is/was due to Emily due to regs.
It isa bummer for her to want to leave, but I would think (as someone stated above) that Baylor probably doesn't have all the facts. Hopefully, it will work itself out in the appeals process... Yes, it hurts Baylor to have Emily leave, but they should grant the release anyway, for many reasons.
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| Posted: 08/03/05 9:58 pm ::: |
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| IMO, it really doesn't matter why she wants to go ... If she wants to go, the school needs to release her. I think this of all NCAA athletes. Whether its Baylor or NCAA regs that are holding her back -- my guess is it's Baylor -- they need to let her go.
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| Posted: 08/04/05 9:01 am ::: |
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| Let's wait until the committee meets before vilifying anyone. If the committee says "no, you can't leave," then let's vilify.
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| Posted: 08/04/05 10:58 am ::: |
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| PUmatty wrote: |
| IMO, it really doesn't matter why she wants to go ... If she wants to go, the school needs to release her. I think this of all NCAA athletes. Whether its Baylor or NCAA regs that are holding her back -- my guess is it's Baylor -- they need to let her go. |
I think it matters to the extent that those in the know may regard this as a rash decision by a student, and may be hoping that a cooling-off period and some quiet counsel can make things right. If that's the case, BU might rightfully believe it is in everyone's best interests not to implicate another school just yet.
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| Posted: 08/04/05 1:37 pm ::: |
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My bad - I misread and misspoke. I mixed together the AD's two statements.
She was denied beacause of the lateness (and probably the method) of her request, and also apparently some circumstances yet unknown. She didn't break any rules. But Baylor has a right to protect their own interest. So according to NCAA rules, they denied the request and it will go to appeal.
Technically, yes, she is being disadvantaged. But she put herself in that position, and she's probably aware of that. She's gotta sit out a year anyway after transferring. I believe as long as it's settled before this season starts (meaning some date the NCAA has set), she can play elswhere in '06.
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Gaucho Don
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| Posted: 08/04/05 7:52 pm ::: |
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Seniors- especially ones who would likely start- don't leave for no reason. Nor do they leave for "good" reasons- like another school offers a more suitable academic program. I have a strong, strong suspicion- and that's all it is- that Emily is leaving Baylor for very personal reasons not related to the team- boy/girlfriend issues, family problems, "lost" God, "found" God but she's (of course God is a woman- it's the only explanation for my love life) someplace else, &c.
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Wasn't she going to be a Junior, not a Senior?
Also, along the lost/found God lines... this is the end of her bio:
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http://baylorbears.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/niemann_emily00.html
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| Posted: 08/04/05 8:38 pm ::: |
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The word here, which is not official, is that a family member is giving
Emily very bad advice. Emily could not play for teams like Tenn. Uconn. and LSU because she is way too slow. A team like Baylor
specializes in breaking a zone by her 3 point shooting. Some
people think that two of the freshmen coming in, who are both players of the year, would sit Emily on the bench even more, but, who knows?
I'm waiting for the real story.
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