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Conway Gamecock
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One too many: she had her left foot as her pivot foot, and made her spin move, but then lifted her pivot foot and took a step forward with that pivot foot before shooting. She needed to release the ball before that pivot foot stepped back down......
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| Posted: 09/04/22 10:37 pm ::: |
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| More than anything I LOVE that ESPN thought they had their storybook moment of Sue Bird hitting the game winning shot. |
I don't think anybody thought it more than Bird. She held that arm up wrist bent pose for 4 or 5 seconds after the shot. Not sure what happened on the pick. Williams seemed to stay with Stewart initially like she thought Wilson would pick up Bird. Which left Bird wide open.
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| Posted: 09/04/22 10:47 pm ::: |
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I played it back half-speed a few times. First, A'ja seems to have dragged her non-pivot foot before she took off a couple of steps, then there seems to be another after she spun. But I'm not good at seeing this stuff!
The telling thing seems to be that the Storm crowd was not in an uproar about it. I imagine that if they had seen the travel, they would have filled the place with boos and such!
It was puzzling why Ezi kept her arms down when she could have blocked - seemed an unnatural motion - hands behind her back?
A very exciting game!
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| Posted: 09/04/22 11:25 pm ::: |
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| Dear ESPN: Please tell Lobo to stop shrieking or find another broadcaster. She sounds like a banshee and my ears are bleeding.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 12:08 am ::: |
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I played it back half-speed a few times. First, A'ja seems to have dragged her non-pivot foot before she took off a couple of steps, then there seems to be another after she spun. But I'm not good at seeing this stuff!
The telling thing seems to be that the Storm crowd was not in an uproar about it. I imagine that if they had seen the travel, they would have filled the place with boos and such!
It was puzzling why Ezi kept her arms down when she could have blocked - seemed an unnatural motion - hands behind her back?
A very exciting game! |
About Ezi -- probably didn't want to risk an and-1, 3 point play would have won it in regulation....
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| Posted: 09/05/22 4:41 am ::: |
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I count two. |
you can't two? two travels i hope you mean
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| Posted: 09/05/22 8:33 am ::: |
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| It was puzzling why Ezi kept her arms down when she could have blocked - seemed an unnatural motion - hands behind her back? |
I assume she was trying to avoid being called for a foul
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| Posted: 09/05/22 8:55 am ::: |
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| I'm really curious to see the ratings for this game. The attendance was 15k and Bird has been a ratings draw all season. ABC Sunday game in the last week before competition with the NFL. Should be big. I wonder if it could get to a million?
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| Posted: 09/05/22 9:00 am ::: |
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| Stokes had 9 pts and 12 boards last night, which is a fine contribution from her. Hamby only played 4 minutes and looked pretty deconditioned. I don't see the latter making much difference in the 1-2 remaining games, and possibly not for the finals either. Williams is the only other bench player who got in the game. That's a pretty thin roster at this level of competition.
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ChasingRatDogmaSalade
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| Posted: 09/05/22 9:03 am ::: |
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I count two. |
you can't two? two travels i hope you mean |
In fairness, I stopped counting after the second step.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 3:59 pm ::: |
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| It was puzzling why Ezi kept her arms down when she could have blocked - seemed an unnatural motion - hands behind her back? |
I assume she was trying to avoid being called for a foul |
Exactly. Jackie was in shooting motion at the pass. If Ezi were called for a foul, Jackie had the opportunity to win the game in regulation with a made free throw. Ezi was 100% avoiding the foul.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 4:03 pm ::: |
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It kinda reminds me of the jump-stop Ashley Corral was training Cameron Brink to do here. Not a travel. Ironically enough, Cameron Brink is wearing an Aces shirt.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 4:09 pm ::: |
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It kinda reminds me of the jump-stop Ashley Corral was training Cameron Brink to do here. Not a travel. Ironically enough, Cameron Brink is wearing an Aces shirt.
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this is great move, non-travel. aja basically did this move twice.
i am very concerned that some of you are even debating that it was not a travel.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 4:28 pm ::: |
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| Shades wrote: |
It kinda reminds me of the jump-stop Ashley Corral was training Cameron Brink to do here. Not a travel. Ironically enough, Cameron Brink is wearing an Aces shirt.
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this is great move, non-travel. aja basically did this move twice.
i am very concerned that some of you are even debating that it was not a travel. |
And I am concerned that Seattle fans are suddenly finding complaints about officiating "not boring" when the call finally goes against their team! People travelling with the wind at their back say "what wind, you wuss?" When they return against the wind, they're outraged at the unfairness of it all.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 4:29 pm ::: |
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That SportsCenter tweet video is kinda grainy to see the feet and when exactly they hit the ground after the gather. But what everyone can see definitively is that none of the defenders complained or signaled for a travel. That includes Sue Bird, who was staring right at the play. Sue Bird always complains if she thinks the refs got something wrong. All she did was signal for a timeout.
If you missed all that, then I’m not sure you’re capable of counting steps or even knowing when to start counting steps on a grainy tweet video. Of course you’re going to convince yourself that you’re right.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 5:31 pm ::: |
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I'm not talking about picking up the pivot foot right after she catches the pass. Look at the spin move leading to the layup, there are 4 or 5 little steps in there after she picks up the dribble.
But I'm not surprised that nobody (including any officials apparently) was looking at her feet.
Seattle gave this game away multiple times in regulation with their own mistakes.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 5:42 pm ::: |
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I count two. |
you can't two? two travels i hope you mean |
In fairness, I stopped counting after the second step. |
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I think you either need nit picky refs or a way obvious travel in order to have it called in that situation.
My complaint is more clock management. Like, in an NBA game, they would spend a lot of time reviewing the time - and ESPN would show it.
It seemed pretty quick to both decide there were .8 seconds on the clock - AND that Young got the shot off on time.
Now, the refs might have spent time reviewing it, but it was very fast. And ESPN didn’t even bother to replay. Time in that situation is a huge deal.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 5:44 pm ::: |
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| Dear ESPN: Please tell Lobo to stop shrieking or find another broadcaster. She sounds like a banshee and my ears are bleeding. |
ESPN must tell their analyst to do that hyped up bump out as they are going into commercial break. I don't know about shrieking, but it's certainly "excitable".  |
I think they do. Lobo didn’t do it when she first started out, and Andraya Carter has started picking it up. Thanks, I hate it.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 5:52 pm ::: |
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I think you either need nit picky refs or a way obvious travel in order to have it called in that situation.
My complaint is more clock management. Like, in an NBA game, they would spend a lot of time reviewing the time - and ESPN would show it.
It seemed pretty quick to both decide there were .8 seconds on the clock - AND that Young got the shot off on time.
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They obviously just didn't see the travel. It happens. I was in the room, I didn't see it either.
Young clearly got the shot off in time, it only took one look at the replay to see that. That wasn't the least bit controversial. The most disturbing thing was Seattle's defense on that play.
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| Posted: 09/05/22 6:10 pm ::: |
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| Rebecca Lobo saw it- "lucky a travel wasn't called."
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| Posted: 09/05/22 7:49 pm ::: |
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| mercfan3 wrote: |
I think you either need nit picky refs or a way obvious travel in order to have it called in that situation.
My complaint is more clock management. Like, in an NBA game, they would spend a lot of time reviewing the time - and ESPN would show it.
It seemed pretty quick to both decide there were .8 seconds on the clock - AND that Young got the shot off on time.
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They obviously just didn't see the travel. It happens. I was in the room, I didn't see it either.
Young clearly got the shot off in time, it only took one look at the replay to see that. That wasn't the least bit controversial. The most disturbing thing was Seattle's defense on that play. |
It was just weird. You usually would see about ten replays of both. First with time remaining, second with the shot.
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