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Queenie
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| The release had to be Sims, because of the nature of hardships. As to doing a switcheroo and cutting someone else to bring Sims back on a regular contract... it looks like Dallas has approximately negative space under the cap.
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| Posted: 06/19/23 8:10 pm ::: |
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It had to be either Sims or Brown released, because they're the ones on hardship deals. This year they've simplified the rules slightly, hence the team being allowed to pick between the two, rather than specific hardships being tied to specific players. However, as Queenie mentions, the Wings are currently over the cap, which is because Brown's deal counts for the time being as if she'll be there all year. That makes it difficult to cut a player to re-sign Sims, because Brown's deal stops there being enough space to add a new contract even after removing someone like Joens. Sorry if that didn't make sense, it's messy.
I'm also not certain they'd want Sims. Do they need three point guards? They'll just end up pissing someone off or being unable to choose. Sims has some talents, but there are also reasons that she wasn't on anyone's roster to start the season. |
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| Posted: 06/19/23 9:42 pm ::: |
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| So if I'm interpreting the sliding tile puzzle correctly, once McCowan comes back, Kalani Brown gets released. Brown's deal comes off the cap and Dallas is once again in compliance. At *that* point, would they have room to yeet Joens and sign Sims? (Although I agree with you, Richyyy; I don't think they need her. Insert another similarly priced veteran for the hypothetical if you prefer.)
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| Posted: 06/19/23 10:52 pm ::: |
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| It would be very Wingsy to maneuver themselves into having six draft picks and only have one playing a quarter of they way through the season.
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| Posted: 06/20/23 5:24 am ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| So if I'm interpreting the sliding tile puzzle correctly, once McCowan comes back, Kalani Brown gets released. Brown's deal comes off the cap and Dallas is once again in compliance. At *that* point, would they have room to yeet Joens and sign Sims? (Although I agree with you, Richyyy; I don't think they need her. Insert another similarly priced veteran for the hypothetical if you prefer.) |
The Brown hardship wasn't awarded for being under 10 available, it was the less common version for two players out long-term (as far as I remember). So I think it's based on Lopez Senechal and DeShields being out, and therefore McCowan returning won't end it. They could release her anyway, if they wanted, but there's no trigger until one of those injured players returns. At which point yes, they'll probably still have room to make that swap, if they want (although if it happens too late in the season, maybe not). |
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| Posted: 06/21/23 9:58 am ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| So if I'm interpreting the sliding tile puzzle correctly, once McCowan comes back, Kalani Brown gets released. Brown's deal comes off the cap and Dallas is once again in compliance. At *that* point, would they have room to yeet Joens and sign Sims? (Although I agree with you, Richyyy; I don't think they need her. Insert another similarly priced veteran for the hypothetical if you prefer.) |
Releasing Kalani Brown would be a big mistake. She and T make an awesome pair to compliment one another. Joens would be a better castoff.
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 06/21/23 10:34 am ::: |
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| Given Brown's production as a replacement, I imagine the Joens cut might well happen once Lopez Senechal or DeShields returns, in order to then re-sign Brown to the main roster. |
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| Posted: 06/21/23 2:10 pm ::: |
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| Richyyy wrote: |
| Given Brown's production as a replacement, I imagine the Joens cut might well happen once Lopez Senechal or DeShields returns, in order to then re-sign Brown to the main roster. |
Is there a time that has to go by before they can resign her?
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 06/21/23 3:28 pm ::: |
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| Given Brown's production as a replacement, I imagine the Joens cut might well happen once Lopez Senechal or DeShields returns, in order to then re-sign Brown to the main roster. |
Is there a time that has to go by before they can resign her? |
Most of the time, yes. The ten-day waiting period to re-sign a player you've waived would apply. But there's a little amnesty for that rule around the mid-point of the season, so if they did it then they wouldn't have to wait. Every day that Brown is on the roster as an extra player is eating into their cap space, though. I haven't done the maths yet but at some point it might get rather more complicated and difficult to make the swap (i.e. if you cut your 12th player, but no longer have the cap room to add a new 12th player back in, you're stuck at 11). |
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| Posted: 06/25/23 8:13 pm ::: |
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| After 14 games same record as 22
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| Posted: 06/26/23 10:25 am ::: |
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| After 14 games same record as 22 |
Is this good or bad ? Im going to assume good as most people here were upset that johnson got the boot last season . New coach first year as a HC and matching johnson's performance . Ill take it so far .
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| Posted: 06/27/23 8:09 pm ::: |
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Problem with their record is they’ve only played the top 4 teams a total of 2x. They’ve got at least 10 games to play against teams that at this point that will light them up.
Does anyone here know what picks the Wings have in the upcoming drafts? They sacrificed their 1st Round pick in 2 years I think, but don’t they have the Sky’s first pick next season?
Guess it doesn’t matter. They wanted all the shooters they could get this season and picks 3,4,5 have netted two 3-pointers this season.
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| Posted: 06/28/23 12:31 am ::: |
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Does anyone here know what picks the Wings have in the upcoming drafts? They sacrificed their 1st Round pick in 2 years I think, but don’t they have the Sky’s first pick next season? |
They have their own 2024 1st Round Pick and a 2024 1st Round Pick from Chicago. In 2025 they have swap rights with Chicago’s 1st Round Pick.
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| Posted: 06/28/23 2:36 pm ::: |
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Does anyone here know what picks the Wings have in the upcoming drafts? They sacrificed their 1st Round pick in 2 years I think, but don’t they have the Sky’s first pick next season? |
They have their own 2024 1st Round Pick and a 2024 1st Round Pick from Chicago. In 2025 they have swap rights with Chicago’s 1st Round Pick. |
Thank you.
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| Posted: 06/28/23 5:34 pm ::: |
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Odyssey Sims signed to standard contract
Jasmine Dickey and Ashley Joens waived
Kalani Brown released from Hardship
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| Posted: 06/28/23 9:17 pm ::: |
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| Milks26 wrote: |
| After 14 games same record as 22 |
Is this good or bad ? Im going to assume good as most people here were upset that johnson got the boot last season . New coach first year as a HC and matching johnson's performance . Ill take it so far . |
She's been a head coach before
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Odyssey Sims signed to standard contract
Jasmine Dickey and Ashley Joens waived
Kalani Brown released from Hardship |
Moves that should happened a while back. Sims should start at pg
Hope they bring Brown back. She has been good so far
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