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| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY????
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I thought they didn't take teams under .500 but here we are.
Intrigued that the Big Ten and the SWAC appear to have declined their autobids.
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I thought they didn't take teams under .500 but here we are.
Intrigued that the Big Ten and the SWAC appear to have declined their autobids. |
Yeah they didn't use to take teams with overall records under .500. I think they had an exception for that if you were the conference automatic qualifier. But I see at-large bids teams that are sub .500.
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| Posted: 03/13/22 9:07 pm ::: |
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I thought they didn't take teams under .500 but here we are.
Intrigued that the Big Ten and the SWAC appear to have declined their autobids. |
The Big Ten school would have been Northwestern, which finished a half-game above Michigan State in the final standings, so was the highest finishing team to not make the NCAAs. Interesting, though, that MSU must also have turned down an invite, as Purdue is the highest finishing B11 team in the field.
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| Posted: 03/13/22 9:12 pm ::: |
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I thought they didn't take teams under .500 but here we are.
Intrigued that the Big Ten and the SWAC appear to have declined their autobids. |
The Big Ten school would have been Northwestern, which finished a half-game above Michigan State in the final standings, so was the highest finishing team to not make the NCAAs. Interesting, though, that MSU must also have turned down an invite, as Purdue is the highest finishing B11 team in the field. |
MSU might have been invited as an at-large and turned it down. But I think that once the team that is supposed to be the automatic qualifier turns down the bid, the conference no longer gets an automatic bid into the WNIT.
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| Queenie wrote: |
I thought they didn't take teams under .500 but here we are.
Intrigued that the Big Ten and the SWAC appear to have declined their autobids. |
The Big Ten school would have been Northwestern, which finished a half-game above Michigan State in the final standings, so was the highest finishing team to not make the NCAAs. Interesting, though, that MSU must also have turned down an invite, as Purdue is the highest finishing B11 team in the field. |
MSU might have been invited as an at-large and turned it down. But I think that once the team that is supposed to be the automatic qualifier turns down the bid, the conference no longer gets an automatic bid into the WNIT. |
Northwestern was in the WNIT a few years back. JMU is still smarting from that loss in the semis. This was a hard-luck year for JMU, between injuries and what the CAA did to them, so there is no post-season for them. Wait till next year....and the Sun Belt!
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| Posted: 03/14/22 11:23 am ::: |
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https://twitter.com/primetimeMitch/status/1503184035727691779
Kara Lawson & Duke also reportedly turned down a WNIT bid. |
Holding out for a WBI bid?
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| In the Her Hoops Stats podcast episode recapping the NCAA tournament, one of the guest hosts said he interviewed a few Duke players (I believe Day-Wilson and Taylor) after their loss to Miami. He asked if they would miss the outgoing seniors next year and if they would accept a WNIT bid. He said that the players sort of gave lukewarm responses to both questions and implied that there has perhaps been some disharmony brewing amongst the players that we may not know about. Let's just say I'm not surprised they didn't accept the WNIT bid after listening to that podcast last week.
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| Posted: 03/14/22 3:00 pm ::: |
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https://twitter.com/primetimeMitch/status/1503184035727691779
Kara Lawson & Duke also reportedly turned down a WNIT bid. |
Duke was 4-9 in it's last 13 games and the only wins were over Pittsburgh 11-19, (won twice). Clemson 10-21 and Wake Forest 15-16. Plus they barely beat those teams, wins by 3 points twice and 5 points in one of the other games.
The team that started 8-0 was a shell of its self to finish the way they did.
Not the team that should be going on to a post season tournament, IMO
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| Stormeo wrote: |
https://twitter.com/primetimeMitch/status/1503184035727691779
Kara Lawson & Duke also reportedly turned down a WNIT bid. |
Duke was 4-9 in it's last 13 games and the only wins were over Pittsburgh 11-19, (won twice). Clemson 10-21 and Wake Forest 15-16. Plus they barely beat those teams, wins by 3 points twice and 5 points in one of the other games.
The team that started 8-0 was a shell of its self to finish the way they did.
Not the team that should be going on to a post season tournament, IMO |
This 40 year fan of Duke Women's Basketball agrees. The team imploded for whatever reason.
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| IM in OC wrote: |
| Stormeo wrote: |
https://twitter.com/primetimeMitch/status/1503184035727691779
Kara Lawson & Duke also reportedly turned down a WNIT bid. |
Duke was 4-9 in it's last 13 games and the only wins were over Pittsburgh 11-19, (won twice). Clemson 10-21 and Wake Forest 15-16. Plus they barely beat those teams, wins by 3 points twice and 5 points in one of the other games.
The team that started 8-0 was a shell of its self to finish the way they did.
Not the team that should be going on to a post season tournament, IMO |
This 40 year fan of Duke Women's Basketball agrees. The team imploded for whatever reason. |
Possibly for the same reason Mississippi State kinda did. There's a cowbird egg in the nest somewhere. We may find out when someone hits the transfer portal.
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| Posted: 03/14/22 6:38 pm ::: |
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| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post.
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| Posted: 03/14/22 6:51 pm ::: |
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| summertime blues wrote: |
| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post. |
Thinking about the other side, why are people giving Duke so much crap for not playing? Just like some kids want to play more games, maybe some are done and don't want to play. It could be injuries or transfers but I saw Duke taking a lot of heat on social media. The NIT has a lot of games based on geography so I'm sure Duke playing Old Dominion or whomever would really make a difference as they go into next year.
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| ucbart wrote: |
| summertime blues wrote: |
| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post. |
Thinking about the other side, why are people giving Duke so much crap for not playing? Just like some kids want to play more games, maybe some are done and don't want to play. It could be injuries or transfers but I saw Duke taking a lot of heat on social media. The NIT has a lot of games based on geography so I'm sure Duke playing Old Dominion or whomever would really make a difference as they go into next year. |
Agree with you Durantula. On social media people can be quick to pile on about such things because it's easy to do and feels like a "gotcha!" moment. But in reality there are a lot of behind the scenes factors that we have no way to be aware of.
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Looks like Northwestern and Michigan State passed on it. I hope the players got to decide not the coach. But the athletic department may have authority as well due to having to foot the bill.
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| Posted: 03/15/22 7:47 am ::: |
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| summertime blues wrote: |
| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post. |
Thinking about the other side, why are people giving Duke so much crap for not playing? Just like some kids want to play more games, maybe some are done and don't want to play. It could be injuries or transfers but I saw Duke taking a lot of heat on social media. The NIT has a lot of games based on geography so I'm sure Duke playing Old Dominion or whomever would really make a difference as they go into next year. |
Agree with you Durantula. On social media people can be quick to pile on about such things because it's easy to do and feels like a "gotcha!" moment. But in reality there are a lot of behind the scenes factors that we have no way to be aware of. |
Agree-know about .01% of what goes on with programs behind the scenes as fans. I get why veteran teams who had disappointing seasons don't want to play. Especially ones like Duke, who seem to have just "thrown" a roster together to field a team after a coaching change and a season cancelled due to Covid.
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| Posted: 03/15/22 8:01 am ::: Re: WNIT |
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Looks like Northwestern and Michigan State passed on it. I hope the players got to decide not the coach. But the athletic department may have authority as well due to having to foot the bill. |
The Spartans were heavily injured and short-staffed all year. I can’t imagine them trying to push through a post-season, especially with risking Clouden who’s going into the draft. It’s not the first time they’ve declined the WNIT, either.
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| Posted: 03/15/22 9:23 am ::: |
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| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post. |
Well, Mr. UConn, if you are a mid-major fan like I am, you would care. But YOU can't be bothered, and I don't care what you think. However, JMU, in years past, has played in the WNIT with a winning record and made it to the semifinals a couple of times. Mid-majors DO care because for a lot of them, this is their time to shine. Having a team like Vandy, with its losing record and lackluster season in there kind of diminishes things. So that's why. Take your UConn snobbery elsewhere.
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| Vanderbilt had a net of 77 and a SOS of 17, both of which are very solid. These metrics go into the WNIT selection process just like the NCAA tournament. Just a little insight for those curious about their selection.
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| ucbart wrote: |
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| Some of the at-large bids are a joke. I don’t know what “other criteria” they considered, unless one of them is money, but Vandy? REALLY???? |
I can't imagine caring that much about who gets in the WNIT when teams actually turn it down. Like, why do you even care who is in the field or what record they have? These are kids who didn't have seasons go the they wanted and they get to play some more games. This is a strange post. |
Well, Mr. UConn, if you are a mid-major fan like I am, you would care. But YOU can't be bothered, and I don't care what you think. However, JMU, in years past, has played in the WNIT with a winning record and made it to the semifinals a couple of times. Mid-majors DO care because for a lot of them, this is their time to shine. Having a team like Vandy, with its losing record and lackluster season in there kind of diminishes things. So that's why. Take your UConn snobbery elsewhere. |
LOLOLLOLOLOLOLLLLLL!!!!!!
I'm not going to get in to some conflict cycle with you, but go off!
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| Posted: 03/15/22 9:51 am ::: |
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Duke sure has spent a lot of time choosing not to play games sine Lawson got to campus.
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There is nothing on the WNIT website about viewing the games on tv or live stream. So I checked some teams sites and it appears some are showing the games on the same source that was used for regular season games. Boston College on the ACCN, UCLA on Pac 12 live stream, Purdue on the B1G10 network, and New Mexico on the Mountain West Network. I am guessing others will be on similar.
At least they are not using the horrible pay streaming service that was in the past.
Final game will be on CBSSN, on April 2nd
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