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root_thing
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Shades
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Posted: 01/12/22 12:07 am ::: |
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https://justwomenssports.com/stephanie-white-phoenix-mercury-head-coach-finalist-wnba/
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Stephanie White is among the finalists for the Phoenix Mercury head coaching position, sources tell Just Women’s Sports. The veteran coach interviewed with the team in person late last week. |
Clearly White would prefer not waiting for Stanley to inevitably get the boot.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/12/22 1:55 am ::: |
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I definitely saw Chasity Melvin mentioned somewhere as well, I think as someone who interviewed for one of the open positions.
Nakase does have a fair amount of coaching experience, just not all of it in the US. As more women start getting employed on the men's side I think we're going to have to get used to that being a pool that WNBA teams reach into when they have head coach openings. What's going to be interesting is if more male assistants in the men's game start seeing the WNBA as a viable route to advancing their careers. Because if those guys want to apply for WNBA openings and are willing to do the job for regular WNBA-level salaries, they're going to draw interest. |
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 01/12/22 3:08 pm ::: |
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I'm sure this has been discussed before but how are Sophie Cunningham and Alanna Smith both Unrestricted with only 3 years of play? It's supposed to be 5.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/12/22 3:38 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
I'm sure this has been discussed before but how are Sophie Cunningham and Alanna Smith both Unrestricted with only 3 years of play? It's supposed to be 5. |
I've blathered on about it quite a lot on Twitter. Phoenix declined both their 4th-year options, so by rule they become unrestricted free agents. Those 4th years would've been unprotected, so there was no particularly good reason to decline them. |
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Shades
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Posted: 01/12/22 4:03 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
I'm sure this has been discussed before but how are Sophie Cunningham and Alanna Smith both Unrestricted with only 3 years of play? It's supposed to be 5. |
It’s been discussed here frequently. Usually it would pop up in a game thread when Cunningham’s having a good game…. or in Mercury 2022 roster discussions when people automatically pencil Cunningham in.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=100071&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 01/12/22 11:17 pm ::: |
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But does anyone have an aswer as to why that happened? Did Phoenix mis-file their contracts or something?
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root_thing
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No, it’s not like Phoenix management held a press conference and announced, “Shit, we screwed up!” Richyyy has a theory that makes the most sense. There is a rule change that takes effect in 2022 that forces a team to guarantee the 4th year of a rookie contract if they pick up the option. Consequently, management has to think harder about whether they want to keep a player. In all likelihood, the Mercury front office thought this rule kicked in last season. They weren’t happy with the performance of Cunningham and Smith through their first two years, so the team decided not to pick up their options. In reality, Phoenix had another season to evaluate risk-free. Cunningham then went out and had a much better season, changing everyone’s opinion of her. And that’s how we got here: Oooops!
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/13/22 12:49 am ::: |
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There's also the element that I've also been going on about on Twitter - https://twitter.com/RichardCohen1/status/1478862276551753728?s=20 - which is that they're so close to the cap that they can't even afford Kia Nurse's qualifying offer (whether you'd want to give it to an injured player anyway is a separate question). Cunningham and Smith would've been a similar price, so they would've been forced to make roster moves to get under the cap by now. So Smith probably would've been cut anyway, but they could've kept Cunningham instead of Megan Walker, for example. |
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Shades
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Posted: 01/13/22 6:53 pm ::: |
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Phoenix waives Megan Walker.
So maybe that’s a sign they’ll keep Cunningham, if possible?
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SCook
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Posted: 01/13/22 7:07 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Phoenix waives Megan Walker.
So maybe that’s a sign they’ll keep Cunningham, if possible? |
They extended a Qualifying offer to Kia Nurse. I'm almost certain they'll have to move someone else to keep Sophie. But I could be wrong.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/13/22 7:20 pm ::: |
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SCook wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Phoenix waives Megan Walker.
So maybe that’s a sign they’ll keep Cunningham, if possible? |
They extended a Qualifying offer to Kia Nurse. I'm almost certain they'll have to move someone else to keep Sophie. But I could be wrong. |
Signing for one year at the vet minimum would at least put that decision off for a while, because then it counts as a training camp contract and doesn't count on the cap until the opening day of the regular season.
And yes, the Walker move was obviously to create the room for the Nurse QO, as I explained was necessary earlier on. |
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Posted: 01/14/22 3:08 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Phoenix waives Megan Walker.
So maybe that’s a sign they’ll keep Cunningham, if possible? |
Leaving college early really hurt her imo.
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mercfan
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Posted: 01/14/22 7:18 pm ::: |
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So which reporters got played?
Cause I ain’t see a coach.
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 01/14/22 8:56 pm ::: |
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Is there a rumor? A coaching announcement on a Friday night wouldn't inspire much confidence in me.
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ChicagoAnnie
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mercfan
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Posted: 01/15/22 1:09 am ::: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Is there a rumor? A coaching announcement on a Friday night wouldn't inspire much confidence in me. |
Multiple reports that a coach would have been named this week.
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Posted: 01/15/22 8:07 pm ::: |
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mercfan wrote: |
johnjohnW wrote: |
Is there a rumor? A coaching announcement on a Friday night wouldn't inspire much confidence in me. |
Multiple reports that a coach would have been named this week. |
So many amazing candidates that it is hard to choose just one!
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Posted: 01/17/22 12:08 am ::: |
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mercfan
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Posted: 01/18/22 2:25 pm ::: |
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Coaching news aside, after dumping Walker, who is realistically in the Mercury market without moving any of the big three? I've always had my eye on DeShields but she may be out of our price range and we may not have a spot for her to get a bunch of playing time.
We desperately need to upgrade our post presence off the bench. Does Elizabeth Williams have a home for next year? She may be a nice fit to spot minutes for Griner.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/18/22 2:57 pm ::: |
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mercfan wrote: |
Coaching news aside, after dumping Walker, who is realistically in the Mercury market without moving any of the big three? I've always had my eye on DeShields but she may be out of our price range and we may not have a spot for her to get a bunch of playing time.
We desperately need to upgrade our post presence off the bench. Does Elizabeth Williams have a home for next year? She may be a nice fit to spot minutes for Griner. |
If they're keeping Vaughn at her current price, plus Taurasi/Griner/SDS/Hartley, it's basically people who'll play for the minimum. And ideally the 0-2 Years of Service minimum. They can only afford one on the 3+ minimum, and right now that's Shey Peddy. |
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Posted: 01/18/22 3:00 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
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Coaching news aside, after dumping Walker, who is realistically in the Mercury market without moving any of the big three? I've always had my eye on DeShields but she may be out of our price range and we may not have a spot for her to get a bunch of playing time.
We desperately need to upgrade our post presence off the bench. Does Elizabeth Williams have a home for next year? She may be a nice fit to spot minutes for Griner. |
If they're keeping Vaughn at her current price, plus Taurasi/Griner/SDS/Hartley, it's basically people who'll play for the minimum. And ideally the 0-2 Years of Service minimum. They can only afford one on the 3+ minimum, and right now that's Shey Peddy. |
Well damn.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 01/18/22 3:11 pm ::: |
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mercfan wrote: |
Richyyy wrote: |
mercfan wrote: |
Coaching news aside, after dumping Walker, who is realistically in the Mercury market without moving any of the big three? I've always had my eye on DeShields but she may be out of our price range and we may not have a spot for her to get a bunch of playing time.
We desperately need to upgrade our post presence off the bench. Does Elizabeth Williams have a home for next year? She may be a nice fit to spot minutes for Griner. |
If they're keeping Vaughn at her current price, plus Taurasi/Griner/SDS/Hartley, it's basically people who'll play for the minimum. And ideally the 0-2 Years of Service minimum. They can only afford one on the 3+ minimum, and right now that's Shey Peddy. |
Well damn. |
You can see why I fully expected Vaughn to have been waived by now. That 40k more than her minimum that she's on could be a really useful sum for Phoenix's situation. |
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TotalCardinalMove
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Posted: 01/18/22 3:13 pm ::: |
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mercfan wrote: |
Richyyy wrote: |
mercfan wrote: |
Coaching news aside, after dumping Walker, who is realistically in the Mercury market without moving any of the big three? I've always had my eye on DeShields but she may be out of our price range and we may not have a spot for her to get a bunch of playing time.
We desperately need to upgrade our post presence off the bench. Does Elizabeth Williams have a home for next year? She may be a nice fit to spot minutes for Griner. |
If they're keeping Vaughn at her current price, plus Taurasi/Griner/SDS/Hartley, it's basically people who'll play for the minimum. And ideally the 0-2 Years of Service minimum. They can only afford one on the 3+ minimum, and right now that's Shey Peddy. |
Well damn. |
I think cutting Vaughn is an essential move at this point. Not sure if Peddy is worth being the only person we can afford at the 3+ minimum either.
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 01/18/22 4:51 pm ::: |
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Man this new salary cap is gonna make free agency dull and brutal going forward.
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