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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 10/20/21 10:16 pm ::: |
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You.ve never been "zoned in" on something or been "unconscious" about something or had "tunnel vision" to the point that you might do something and not even realized that you did it or to whom you did it or to what extent? |
The world would be a terrifying place if we were all cool with what you just described here. |
What a stunning overreaction to what Ex-Ref wrote. |
Yes, thank you for bringing some common sense to this.
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ChicagoAnnie
Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 9199 Location: St. Paul, MN
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Posted: 10/20/21 10:23 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Your honor:
I was "zoned in" on getting to the shopping mall and had "tunnel vision" which is the reason I didn't see the pedestrian in the crosswalk and hit her going 40 miles an hour.
Sorry this just doesn't cut it. The result is what matters. And anyway it's very, very hard to believe DT didn't know it was a referee no matter how zoned in she might have been.
Bottomline: If the W doesn't want to enforce this rule, they should just remove it or state a variety of possible penalties that they can subjectively apply depending on the situation...which is effectively what they did. Otherwise I can see lots of increased contact, and the players can just plead the Taurasi rule. |
And why on Earth would she want to push a ref? In the playoffs? Knowing the penalty for doing so intentionally is a suspension? Makes no fucking sense at all!! None.
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
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ChicagoAnnie
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Posted: 10/20/21 10:25 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
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I just don't like players that act like assholes *shrug* |
Does this include Sky players who have acted like assholes since they won or just Diana?
Lexi Brown played in that series for an entire 17:25 of that series....and 10:55 was in the game 3 blowout.....yet she puts up the picture of Copper and Sophie-from a game she wasn't even good enough to check into.
What's really surprised me is all the young, blue checkmark "media" people on twitter who think the Chicago Sky and hyping up this door thing is the greatest thing in the entire universe. It really shows a level of immaturity by the organization and the people who support it. |
Who are you talking about? I've seen nothing but a bunch of happy players. I need details.
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NYSports56
Joined: 03 Jul 2018 Posts: 1137 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: 10/21/21 1:42 am ::: |
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Taurasi acts as if she's playing in the most poorly officiated game in the history of basketball every single night like no other basketball player I know. It's over the top and she never gives it a rest.
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Tally24
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Posted: 10/21/21 2:01 am ::: |
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Copper is selling a shirt with the image of her staring down Cunningham from game 2. Personally, I think it’s kind of funny. However, if we are going to discuss “player behavior,” that is far from being a “good sport” or a “class act”. 🙄 |
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PicknLOL
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Posted: 10/21/21 3:05 am ::: |
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Again I'll ask, why isn't anybody crying about a suspension when she made contact with the ref in game 4? My guess is that very few people noticed it. |
I definitely remember someone mentioning she ought to be careful when she did that. Whether it was the announcers or someone in a thread here, sorry, I was zoned in to the point that I don't know what I was listening or reading or imagining.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 10/21/21 5:09 am ::: |
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PicknLOL wrote: |
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Again I'll ask, why isn't anybody crying about a suspension when she made contact with the ref in game 4? My guess is that very few people noticed it. |
I definitely remember someone mentioning she ought to be careful when she did that. Whether it was the announcers or someone in a thread here, sorry, I was zoned in to the point that I don't know what I was listening or reading or imagining. |
What you're saying is that you were GOAT-level zoned in.
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PicknLOL
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Posted: 10/21/21 5:41 am ::: |
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Luuuc wrote: |
PicknLOL wrote: |
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Again I'll ask, why isn't anybody crying about a suspension when she made contact with the ref in game 4? My guess is that very few people noticed it. |
I definitely remember someone mentioning she ought to be careful when she did that. Whether it was the announcers or someone in a thread here, sorry, I was zoned in to the point that I don't know what I was listening or reading or imagining. |
What you're saying is that you were GOAT-level zoned in. |
Indubitably.
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mercfan
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Posted: 10/21/21 8:29 am ::: |
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Tally24 wrote: |
Copper is selling a shirt with the image of her staring down Cunningham from game 2. Personally, I think it’s kind of funny. However, if we are going to discuss “player behavior,” that is far from being a “good sport” or a “class act”. 🙄 |
Especially considering she lost that battle. She should not be proud of that moment.
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 10/21/21 9:24 am ::: |
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PicknLOL wrote: |
Ex-Ref wrote: |
Again I'll ask, why isn't anybody crying about a suspension when she made contact with the ref in game 4? My guess is that very few people noticed it. |
I definitely remember someone mentioning she ought to be careful when she did that. Whether it was the announcers or someone in a thread here, sorry, I was zoned in to the point that I don't know what I was listening or reading or imagining. |
The only thing that I remember being mentioned is when she fist-bumped the ref at the beginning of the game. It was mentioned in the game thread.
I'm talking about another time that she made contact with the ref.
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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Howee
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Posted: 10/21/21 10:39 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Your honor:
I was "zoned in" on getting to the shopping mall and had "tunnel vision" which is the reason I didn't see the pedestrian in the crosswalk and hit her going 40 miles an hour.
Sorry this just doesn't cut it. The result is what matters. And anyway it's very, very hard to believe DT didn't know it was a referee no matter how zoned in she might have been.
Bottomline: If the W doesn't want to enforce this rule, they should just remove it or state a variety of possible penalties that they can subjectively apply depending on the situation...which is effectively what they did. Otherwise I can see lots of increased contact, and the players can just plead the Taurasi rule. |
Couldn't agree more: the parallel logic is spot on.
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And why on Earth would she want to push a ref? |
For the same reason 80% of the players might wanna push a ref: they're frustrated, in the heat of the battle, already pushing and being pushed by other players, lesser abilities in controlling impulsive behavior....LOTS o' reasons. But: those 80% are generally NOT inclined to do so, cuz of the penalties. Those that do might see themselves as 'bad girls' (*) that don't need to adhere to the same standards as everybody else.
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In the playoffs? Knowing the penalty for doing so intentionally is a suspension? Makes no fucking sense at all!! None. |
Ummm....it might if, say....DT realized that her suspension might give a more palatable excuse for losing than just admitting that they got outplayed. Or....DT was hurting enough to wanna get out of the game, and didn't wanna just sit without a proper excuse. Prolly NOT the case here, but....it's not all that far fetched.
*What other stars (or regulars) have become known for this? Griner? Bird? Delle Donne? Leslie? Augustus? Charles? Whalen? Ogwumike?
Nope. The list is short.
What makes "no fucking sense" to me is how people will go to the mat in her defense -- even a GOAT can be flawed. But....that's what makes 'fandom' so much fun!
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Michelle89
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 10/22/21 6:46 am ::: |
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I for one wanna go on record as saying I love for this. I love Dirty Diana. I also love Chicago being petty and taking the piss. This makes sports fun and something the W has always needed. I don't think any of this makes either party look bad or unprofessional. It makes them look like intriguing figures in the sport.
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season?
Grab the popcorn and get off the high horse!
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FrozenLVFan
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Posted: 10/22/21 9:25 am ::: |
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The real issue here isn't DT's behavior, the issue is the arbitrary way the WNBA enforces (or not) their own rules. Either rewrite the rule, or enforce it. Don't ignore it whenever you feel like it.
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pilight
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Posted: 10/22/21 9:35 am ::: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season? |
There's a fair chance that neither of those players will be on the same team next year
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hyperetic
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Posted: 10/22/21 12:49 pm ::: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season?
Grab the popcorn and get off the high horse! |
You sure you're wanting basketball or WWE? |
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Bob Lamm
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hyperetic
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Posted: 10/23/21 1:48 am ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season?
Grab the popcorn and get off the high horse! |
You sure you're wanting basketball or WWE? |
LOL, hyperetic. If you're on "the high horse," I'm with you. |
😊 Just saying, I don't mind competitiveness and aggressive play. I don't want fights and dirty play. Even hockey finally realized it was a bad thing. |
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 10/23/21 2:11 am ::: |
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hyperetic wrote: |
😊 Just saying, I don't mind competitiveness and aggressive play. I don't want fights and dirty play. Even hockey finally realized it was a bad thing. |
I was a hockey fan decades ago and stopped watching because the NHL game changed. The focus was no longer on the elegance of skating, stickhandling, and scoring; it was on the thugs on the ice and fans getting more excited about the thugs than anything else.
Totally with you in what you've written just above.
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johnjohnW
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tfan
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Posted: 10/23/21 7:45 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
johnjohnW wrote: |
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season? |
There's a fair chance that neither of those players will be on the same team next year |
Cunningham didn't have her fourth year picked up or something (she says she'd like to stay in Phoenix nonetheless), but why won't Copper be back?
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Shades
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Posted: 10/23/21 3:07 pm ::: |
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tfan wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
johnjohnW wrote: |
Who doesn't wanna see the next game between Cunningham and Copper? Who isn't intrigued by the rematch of Chi and PHX next season? |
There's a fair chance that neither of those players will be on the same team next year |
Cunningham didn't have her fourth year picked up or something (she says she'd like to stay in Phoenix nonetheless), but why won't Copper be back? |
She’d like to stay if nobody else pays her more than they do. Is that what you’re trying to say?
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