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| Will be interesting to hear what Dawn has to say.
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| Posted: 09/01/24 12:40 am ::: |
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| Aggravated assault and kidnapping is not a combo I'd want to risk giving a second chance to in a program I ran. It'll be interesting to see how hard of a line Dawn walks, especially with the frontcourt depth necessary to easily absorb the loss.
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| Posted: 09/01/24 7:39 am ::: |
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| I am not taking the news reports at face value. They love to sensationalize.
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| Posted: 09/01/24 11:52 am ::: |
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| She was arrested and charged with a felony for assault. Doesn't need much more to get some attention -- don't see how you can blame the media for that.
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| Posted: 09/02/24 8:40 pm ::: |
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| She was arrested and charged with a felony for assault. Doesn't need much more to get some attention -- don't see how you can blame the media for that. |
No one is at fault. The police are just doing what they are told and the media reports it. That's one way to look at it. But ...
Initial police arrest reports are notorious for being overzealous. The bigger the crime the bigger the prestige for the arresting officer.
How many arrests for assault were made in Columbia in the last 6 months and how many of them were reported in the media? But then she's a national figure so it's OK. But the truth of the media's agenda will come if the charges get dropped. Will that be headline news? I have my doubts. And even if the charges got dropped the country will always know her as the BB player who was accused of kidnapping and assault.
But if she did all those things then to hell with her.
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Milks26
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| Posted: 09/02/24 9:47 pm ::: |
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Watkins is one of my favorite players. But she always seems too amped up and ready to go to blows on the court. If she recall most of SC on court hiccups the past two seasons had her in the mix.
Too sides to every story but I'm not shocked by any means.
Just hope it's a suspension and not expulsion from the team. She's a local kid so that will help her case.
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| Posted: 09/04/24 6:28 am ::: |
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Here is an excerpt from the local newspaper's latest article on the incident . For one thing , the victim is described as a " juvenile " . This could complicate things for Watkins . Also , it's not clear if a juvenile is technically allowed to be in this particular dorm ( which is probably 50% athletes ) .
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While the victim initially told police several times that Watkins hit her, she later said that Watkins did not hit her, according to the report. Watkins told police she went looking for the victim — whom she described to police as her “girlfriend” — on the second floor to take her to her car on the fourth floor. According to the police report, Watkins admitted to “grabbing her” and walking outside. The two then returned to Watkins’ room to let out her dog. While letting out her dog, Watkins said the victim began to run through the parking garage and lifted herself up onto the ledge. Watkins told police she “wrapped both arms around” the victim because she believed she was going to jump off.
EMS and police spoke to all parties and determined the victim was not suicidal, according to the police report. Police tried to call the parents of the victim, who was described in the report as “a juvenile,” but were unsuccessful. A Lexington County Sheriff’s deputy was sent to their residence and reached her mother. Watkins was charged with first degree assault and kidnapping after the incident, according to arrest warrants released Saturday.
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| Posted: 09/05/24 4:57 pm ::: |
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| Per sources it appears the suspension has been lifted.
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| Posted: 09/06/24 7:38 am ::: |
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| Watkins told police she went looking for the victim — whom she described to police as her “girlfriend” — on the second floor to take her to her car on the fourth floor. According to the police report, Watkins admitted to “grabbing her” and walking outside. The two then returned to Watkins’ room to let out her dog. While letting out her dog, Watkins said the victim began to run through the parking garage and lifted herself up onto the ledge. Watkins told police she “wrapped both arms around” the victim because she believed she was going to jump off. |
Overall, NOT a funny story theme, but....I hadta chuckle at the idea of:
- someone keeping their car on the "fourth floor"
- a college athlete keeping a dog in their dorm; with a D1 athlete's schedule, HOW is a dog in a 'good place' with them? I'm more concerned for the dog than the kid.
- this dingy "juvenile" wench up on a ledge, etc.; high as a kite, maybe? [/u]
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| Posted: 09/06/24 8:27 am ::: |
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| Watkins told police she went looking for the victim — whom she described to police as her “girlfriend” — on the second floor to take her to her car on the fourth floor. According to the police report, Watkins admitted to “grabbing her” and walking outside. The two then returned to Watkins’ room to let out her dog. While letting out her dog, Watkins said the victim began to run through the parking garage and lifted herself up onto the ledge. Watkins told police she “wrapped both arms around” the victim because she believed she was going to jump off. |
Overall, NOT a funny story theme, but....I hadta chuckle at the idea of:
- someone keeping their car on the "fourth floor"
- a college athlete keeping a dog in their dorm; with a D1 athlete's schedule, HOW is a dog in a 'good place' with them? I'm more concerned for the dog than the kid.
- this dingy "juvenile" wench up on a ledge, etc.; high as a kite, maybe? [/u] |
I'm not sure why you get a chuckle out of 4th floor parking . There is not much free parking in the area . Most visitors either try to find a parking meter spot or pay to park in one the garages . That particular building has some parking on the bottom floor ( not much , but I did get an assigned space there for basketball one year ) and I think the rest of the parking for residents and visitors is on the top floor . I never thought of that building as being somewhere to commit suicide though , unless she jumped head first . More likely to get a broken leg or two .
650 Lincoln is a pretty nice dorm . It was originally going to be for athletes only , but the NCAA nixed that idea . So I think they opened up around 50% of the rooms to other students .
As far as athletes having dogs , that's not that unusual . There are students ( sometimes athletes ) who rent condos in the complex where I live and quite a few have dogs . Never seemed like a good idea to me though .
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| Posted: 09/06/24 9:27 am ::: |
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"I'm not sure why you get a chuckle out of 4th floor parking"
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| Posted: 09/15/24 7:44 am ::: |
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| Wait, has Staley actually kept her mouth shut re this?
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| Posted: 09/15/24 9:49 am ::: |
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| Wait, has Staley actually kept her mouth shut re this? |
I kind of assumed we were just too far away to hear the yelling. My mom might be able to hear it from North Carolina, though.
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| Posted: 09/25/24 9:48 am ::: |
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Seems Staley just responded publicly yesterday:
https://www.cbssports.com/womens-college-basketball/news/ashlyn-watkins-arrest-dawn-staley-says-forward-remains-suspended-after-being-charged-with-assault-kidnapping/
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South Carolina forward Ashlyn Watkins remains suspended from team activities after being charged with first-degree assault and battery and kidnapping in August, Gamecocks coach Dawn Staley said Tuesday.
"Status is still the same," Staley said of Watkins. "Nothing's moved yet, and we are not gonna move until her situation settles down a little bit. And that's out of her control and out of our control."
...Watkins is suspended from all team activities and missed the Gamecocks' visit to the White House on Sept. 10 as they celebrated their 2024 national championship win. |
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| Posted: 11/05/24 9:21 pm ::: |
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| All charges against Watkins have been dismissed.
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| Posted: 11/06/24 10:35 am ::: |
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| All charges against Watkins have been dismissed. |
The twitter reactions of the SC fans are.....a choice. Not only is there video, but her gf was a minor. Can you imagine if this situation was a SC men's player...........with a minor gf that he beat up?
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| Posted: 11/06/24 2:39 pm ::: |
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| All charges against Watkins have been dismissed. |
The twitter reactions of the SC fans are.....a choice. Not only is there video, but her gf was a minor. Can you imagine if this situation was a SC men's player...........with a minor gf that he beat up? |
If the girlfriend is a minor, where are the young lady's parents? Legally the minor can't drop the charges. That is the responsibility of the parents.
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| Posted: 11/06/24 5:05 pm ::: |
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| All charges against Watkins have been dismissed. |
The twitter reactions of the SC fans are.....a choice. Not only is there video, but her gf was a minor. Can you imagine if this situation was a SC men's player...........with a minor gf that he beat up? |
If the girlfriend is a minor, where are the young lady's parents? Legally the minor can't drop the charges. That is the responsibility of the parents. |
I guess the GF's parents were pressured by the AD or something.....
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| Posted: 11/06/24 6:33 pm ::: |
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| The decision to go forward with or to dismiss a criminal charge is solely the decision of the prosecutor. It is not the decision of the victim of the crime or relatives of the victim. That is a common colloquial misconception. |
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| Posted: 11/06/24 7:46 pm ::: |
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| Well, maybe the prosecutor's office got leaned on by the AD then. Who knows? It sounds awfully fishy to me.
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| Posted: 11/07/24 2:23 am ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| The decision to go forward with or to dismiss a criminal charge is solely the decision of the prosecutor. It is not the decision of the victim of the crime or relatives of the victim. That is a common colloquial misconception. |
Technically true, but not true as a practical matter. In cases of this nature, if the victim refuses to cooperate and takes the position that she wasn't kidnapped or assaulted, (often retreating to that it was just a misunderstanding or argument or the perp was just trying to help the victim) it is virtually impossible to win a conviction, and prosecution is typically declined. Hence it's not surprising that people think it's the victim's choice.
The prosecutor may well be convinced a crime occurred but also realize the victim's testimony will likely create reasonable doubt and render the case an unwinnable waste of time and resources.
My guess is the gf had people telling her how she would screw up the player's future, her career, and her earnings potential if she didn't back away.
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| Posted: 11/07/24 5:52 am ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| The decision to go forward with or to dismiss a criminal charge is solely the decision of the prosecutor. It is not the decision of the victim of the crime or relatives of the victim. That is a common colloquial misconception. |
Technically true, but not true as a practical matter. In cases of this nature, if the victim refuses to cooperate and takes the position that she wasn't kidnapped or assaulted, (often retreating to that it was just a misunderstanding or argument or the perp was just trying to help the victim) it is virtually impossible to win a conviction, and prosecution is typically declined. Hence it's not surprising that people think it's the victim's choice.
The prosecutor may well be convinced a crime occurred but also realize the victim's testimony will likely create reasonable doubt and render the case an unwinnable waste of time and resources.
My guess is the gf had people telling her how she would screw up the player's future, her career, and her earnings potential if she didn't back away. |
The skeptic in me wonders if "telling" = a "look what I found" pile of cash.
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