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 Posted: 07/31/24 12:20 pm ::: Sheryl Swoopes once again talking smack against Clark |
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https://starlocalmedia.com/sports/national/sheryl-swoopes-reveals-why-caitlin-clark-shouldnt-win-wnba-rookie-of-the-year/article_21b7c666-bf98-53eb-924c-c4b946c2c2c8.html
She started drinking the hater-aid and spewing it after Clark broke her record for most points in a tournament as a junior. (Clark got 191 in 6 games, Swoopes got 173 in 5) She then threw shade at Clark for breaking the scoring record in five years (which was wrong) and by taking 40 shots a game (also wrong, Clark averaged 22 shots a game, Swoopes averaged 19 her senior year)
Now she is saying that Indiana would have been a playoff team without Clark and that Caitlin is not exceeding expectations while Reese is playing way above expectations and taking a team of nobody's and untalented players to the playoffs so Clark has done nothing to deserve being ROY.......
Why not just admit she hates that a white girl has brought more fans and excitement than any player before her and massively prejudiced Swoopes (who stated she can't be racist because she is black) cannot stand it.
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| Posted: 07/31/24 10:48 pm ::: |
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| With comments like those, I think she's drinking something a lot stronger than haterade.
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| Posted: 07/31/24 11:06 pm ::: |
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I appreciated how Michael set us up with the backstory of CC breaking SS's records, and then hit us with the twist at the end with the SS is actually just a racist who can't stand seeing a whitey kicking some ass thing.
It's some top shelf projection oops I mean reasoning.
SS had me on board with the part about CC doing pretty much what we expected. It was obvious she would be good and she has delivered. But after that things got kinda cringe. I get the instinct to be contrarian at times but CC is not leaving us many excuses to partake.
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| Posted: 08/01/24 3:57 am ::: Re: Sheryl Swoopes once again talking smack against Clark |
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| Michael wrote: |
| (Clark got 191 in 6 games, Swoopes got 173 in 5) |
Since schedules tend to get larger over time it would be nice if the records were just "per game". Or, as in this case, have multiple "total records" that take into consideration changes in the length of the season of playoffs.
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| Posted: 08/01/24 8:13 am ::: |
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| Luuuc wrote: |
I appreciated how Michael set us up with the backstory of CC breaking SS's records, and then hit us with the twist at the end with the SS is actually just a racist who can't stand seeing a whitey kicking some ass thing.
It's some top shelf projection oops I mean reasoning.
SS had me on board with the part about CC doing pretty much what we expected. It was obvious she would be good and she has delivered. But after that things got kinda cringe. I get the instinct to be contrarian at times but CC is not leaving us many excuses to partake. |
Swoopes as much as admitted she is prejudiced, when she said that did not make her racist because she is black and blacks cannot be racist.
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| Posted: 08/01/24 10:08 am ::: |
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Swoopes' mouth has gotten her in trouble before. That's why she got fired from her college coaching job.
Angel Reese is a better player than most thought, but it wasn't exactly unanimous. And Clark is really good too.
They're such different players, it's hard to compare them.
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| Posted: 08/01/24 8:59 pm ::: |
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Swoopes comments aren’t racist - you can argue prejudiced, but racism is a different thing.
Prejudiced is weird too though, given Swoopes didn’t have a problem with any other white player.
Nah, she just doesn’t appear to like Caitlin all that much. :lol: |
Yeah, Swoopes will never beat the hater charges, but there's zero evidence to support the idea that she's racist.
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| Posted: 08/03/24 2:19 am ::: |
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| Leave Swoopes alone. She's an icon, and she has every right to have her own opinions. Not everyone is gonna bow down and kiss Clark's ass.
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| Posted: 08/03/24 10:03 am ::: |
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| Leave Swoopes alone. She's an icon, and she has every right to have her own opinions. Not everyone is gonna bow down and kiss Clark's ass. |
DT is an icon too.
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| Posted: 08/03/24 8:13 pm ::: |
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| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 7:51 am ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
THANK YOU!
I'll put this a little more bluntly-
Swoopes is a legend of the game and her on court accolades are well deserved. However, she is frankly, just an asshole person.
This Clark feud of hers has not only been full of just non-truths, but it reeks of jealousy. She has made herself look foolish multiple times and I can't believe she isn't totally embarrassed.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 9:16 am ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
THANK YOU!
I'll put this a little more bluntly-
Swoopes is a legend of the game and her on court accolades are well deserved. However, she is frankly, just an asshole person.
This Clark feud of hers has not only been full of just non-truths, but it reeks of jealousy. She has made herself look foolish multiple times and I can't believe she isn't totally embarrassed. |
I think she lacks the self awareness to be embarrassed about being caught so many times spouting off false statements.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 10:44 am ::: |
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| SS lost relevancy a long time ago, IMO.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 12:34 pm ::: |
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| Spark4Life wrote: |
| Leave Swoopes alone. She's an icon, and she has every right to have her own opinions. Not everyone is gonna bow down and kiss Clark's ass. |
DT is an icon too. |
Swoopes icon status gave DT a chance and her future platform to be an icon though.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 1:01 pm ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
If I thought Sheryl Swoopes was in the wrong, I still wouldn't say so out loud. This entire discourse has been a textbook example of "I don't like my allies on this." Some of these people have the worst and dumbest takes on literally everything: ain't no way in hell you 'bout to catch me agreeing with any of them in public.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 4:52 pm ::: |
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| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
If I thought Sheryl Swoopes was in the wrong, I still wouldn't say so out loud. This entire discourse has been a textbook example of "I don't like my allies on this." Some of these people have the worst and dumbest takes on literally everything: ain't no way in hell you 'bout to catch me agreeing with any of them in public. |
One of the biggest problems we have right now, it seems to me, is that the other side is always wrong (if not evil) and our side is always right (even if they're not).
I'm a libera;, but liberals can and have been wrong about major issues. Conservatives, while wrong most of the time (according to me), can annoyingly be right.
We need to acknowledge that everyone on our side isn't always worth our support, and that if the other side is right, we need to say so.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 7:11 pm ::: |
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| ClayK wrote: |
| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
If I thought Sheryl Swoopes was in the wrong, I still wouldn't say so out loud. This entire discourse has been a textbook example of "I don't like my allies on this." Some of these people have the worst and dumbest takes on literally everything: ain't no way in hell you 'bout to catch me agreeing with any of them in public. |
One of the biggest problems we have right now, it seems to me, is that the other side is always wrong (if not evil) and our side is always right (even if they're not).
I'm a libera;, but liberals can and have been wrong about major issues. Conservatives, while wrong most of the time (according to me), can annoyingly be right.
We need to acknowledge that everyone on our side isn't always worth our support, and that if the other side is right, we need to say so. |
AMEN and louder for the people in the back. Additionally, if you don't listen to the other side, you cut off your chances to learn something. No one is right about everything, and by listening to the other side in good faith you might learn something, or you might teach them something, but if you refuse to interact with anyone that isn't in lock step with your beliefs, then you will never know if you are right, or just a lemming running off the cliff with the herd.
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| Posted: 08/04/24 11:47 pm ::: |
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One of the biggest problems we have right now, it seems to me, is that the other side is always wrong (if not evil) and our side is always right (even if they're not).
I'm a libera;, but liberals can and have been wrong about major issues. Conservatives, while wrong most of the time (according to me), can annoyingly be right.
We need to acknowledge that everyone on our side isn't always worth our support, and that if the other side is right, we need to say so. |
When someone on "my side" is in the wrong, I check them in private. One of the first things I learned about family dynamics is you don't fight in front of company (a lesson that, using much more colorful language, was reinforced during my service in the military). Especially when "company" is people like your mans over there. I'm never going to give him any occasion to be like, "See, even Silky agrees with me!"
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| Posted: 08/05/24 11:09 am ::: |
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| Michael wrote: |
| ClayK wrote: |
| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
If I thought Sheryl Swoopes was in the wrong, I still wouldn't say so out loud. This entire discourse has been a textbook example of "I don't like my allies on this." Some of these people have the worst and dumbest takes on literally everything: ain't no way in hell you 'bout to catch me agreeing with any of them in public. |
One of the biggest problems we have right now, it seems to me, is that the other side is always wrong (if not evil) and our side is always right (even if they're not).
I'm a libera;, but liberals can and have been wrong about major issues. Conservatives, while wrong most of the time (according to me), can annoyingly be right.
We need to acknowledge that everyone on our side isn't always worth our support, and that if the other side is right, we need to say so. |
AMEN and louder for the people in the back. Additionally, if you don't listen to the other side, you cut off your chances to learn something. No one is right about everything, and by listening to the other side in good faith you might learn something, or you might teach them something, but if you refuse to interact with anyone that isn't in lock step with your beliefs, then you will never know if you are right, or just a lemming running off the cliff with the herd. |
This is rich. The most extreme person on this board is advocating listening to the other side. Speaking of people who completely lack self awareness...
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| Posted: 08/05/24 1:54 pm ::: |
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| Michael wrote: |
| ClayK wrote: |
| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Queenie wrote: |
| Sheryl Swoopes was very good at basketball. That doesn't mean she's good at talking about it. Or at talking, really. And after what happened at Loyola Chicago, she cannot and should not be taken seriously as an expert. I'm tired of the Clark hype too, but this ain't it. |
If I thought Sheryl Swoopes was in the wrong, I still wouldn't say so out loud. This entire discourse has been a textbook example of "I don't like my allies on this." Some of these people have the worst and dumbest takes on literally everything: ain't no way in hell you 'bout to catch me agreeing with any of them in public. |
One of the biggest problems we have right now, it seems to me, is that the other side is always wrong (if not evil) and our side is always right (even if they're not).
I'm a libera;, but liberals can and have been wrong about major issues. Conservatives, while wrong most of the time (according to me), can annoyingly be right.
We need to acknowledge that everyone on our side isn't always worth our support, and that if the other side is right, we need to say so. |
AMEN and louder for the people in the back. Additionally, if you don't listen to the other side, you cut off your chances to learn something. No one is right about everything, and by listening to the other side in good faith you might learn something, or you might teach them something, but if you refuse to interact with anyone that isn't in lock step with your beliefs, then you will never know if you are right, or just a lemming running off the cliff with the herd. |
This is rich. The most extreme person on this board is advocating listening to the other side. Speaking of people who completely lack self awareness... |
How does being strongly opinionated imply I don't listen? You have some very odd ideas about how a discussion board should work it seems. You appear to only want an echo chamber and not to have to hear differing views.
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imo, it’s very likely She keeps doubling down because of the intense harassment she received the first time she made a mistake about Caitlin.
Which is in some ways very human, and in other ways extremely unfair to Caitlin.
Shit, I have to remind myself that I like Caitlin after some of the heinous things I’ve seen her fans say - in particular with what is said about BG. Unfairly ( they end up being a reflection of her. But I don’t have a platform to respond on. Its also difficult to remember than when a small community became a really large one - the crazies join.
Sheryl is a member of the media, and she has a responsibility to be better.
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