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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2815 Location: New York
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Posted: 05/27/23 6:57 pm ::: |
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I've always liked Han Xu. I hope she'll get a longer look on the court in the games ahead. But I'm ready to say what is apparently heresy here: suppose Sandy Brondello is gradually coming to the conclusion that Nyara Sabally will be a better WNBA player than Han Xu. How exactly does everyone KNOW that that conclusion must be wrong?
Looks to me like Kolb and Brondello decided that Han and Sabally have much greater potential for the Liberty's future than Richards or Prince. So for this season, just for this season, they decided to keep Dolson AND Han AND Sabally. Makes sense to me, especially given that Dolson couldn't be traded (I suspect Kolb tried) and will not be on the Liberty's 2024 roster. |
I have never seen a player who is more well liked by her teammates and coaches, and is often given a lot of credit for a lot of things, be as disrespected by fans, like Dolson. Is she a great player? No! But she is a good player, who has a purpose, seems to be very good for chemistry and in the locker room. Yup!
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/27/23 7:22 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
I have never seen a player who is more well liked by her teammates and coaches, and is often given a lot of credit for a lot of things, be as disrespected by fans, like Dolson. Is she a great player? No! But she is a good player, who has a purpose, seems to be very good for chemistry and in the locker room. Yup! |
I agree and wish I'd said that. Glad you did. If my thought that Kolb probably tried to trade Dolson (which I believe) suggested that I have a negative view of her, I regret that. Dolson's limitations as a player are easy to see. But everything positive you've written about her is true. For me, what's most telling is the respect and affection that her teammates have for her.
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LibFan25
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Posted: 05/27/23 7:40 pm ::: |
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Silky Johnson wrote: |
I feel a way about Han Xu going from being a rotation player on a playoff team to being a human victory cigar.
Free Han Xu! |
Totally. Han Xu should be playing meaningful minutes somewhere. This is a waste of a potentially great player. |
It's amazing. The Liberty have gone from a team without a center to a team with too many centers fairly quickly.
You can't have Dolson, JJ, Han, and Sabally all on the same roster. |
We are too big. Lol I like what I see from Sabally this game. If she has this potential then I'm not gonna complain lol
Speaking of Sabally, I really like her Sister's game A LOT. Maybe we can convince her in the future to play for NY š
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18029 Location: Queens
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Posted: 05/27/23 7:50 pm ::: |
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Silky Johnson wrote: |
I feel a way about Han Xu going from being a rotation player on a playoff team to being a human victory cigar. |
A lot of people feel some kind of way about this. I thought she proved herself last year, and surely thereās got to be more of a use for the tallest player in the league than demographic appeal and the last player off the bench. (Okay, next to last. Jocelyn Willoughby and her stupid contract still exist. And I say this as someone who owns a Jocelyn Willoughby jersey.) Somethingās gotta give at some point with the center minutes. Maybe weāll have a clearer sense of the entire rotation when Marine comes over and weāre not engaging in shenanigans like Betnijah or Kayla at the 2. But if anything, that makes the congestion worse.
JJ was definitely pressing too much today. I think she felt she had something to prove against her old team. That did not help. Neither did what appeared to be the refsā vendetta against her. There was a point where she was on the bench with five fouls and Nyara got called for a foul. Since Nyara wears 8, it was signaled as 5 fingers and 3 fingers. The PA guy announced it as Jonquelās sixth foul, and I was only 99 percent certain that he was wrong, because would it have surprised me if WNBA refs fouled someone out of a game while they werenāt even in it? Nooooooope.
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18029 Location: Queens
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Posted: 05/27/23 8:39 pm ::: |
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I think Kevin Pelton put it best on Twitter: the Liberty are in the āraptors testing the fences in Jurassic Parkā level of finding their chemistry. There are still times when weāre bumping each other off the boards, and some cuts that should have been zigged instead of zagged. And we still have an awful lot of posts and not a lot of guards, and thereās definitely a chance for that to blow up in our faces. And I dislike how often some of our star players seem to treat defense as optional.
But goddamn this team is fun to watch when theyāre in gear.
Sloot reminded us all she could score the ball, and Stewie filled the stat sheet, but have we talked enough about the work Kayla Thornton did on the glass and on defense today? Sheās so tough and sheās amazing and I love her.
Also I think this is the first time, or at least the longest amount of time, Iāve seen Nyara Sabally play, and now I understand the hype. She brings an element of physicality that, for all our post congestion, none of the other bigs really seem to match. She thicc.
(Poor Leigha Brown looked like she wanted to ask Stephanie White and/or God āwhy is this my life?ā when she was aske to guard Stewie and Nyara in rapid succession, albeit for different reasons. She tried. She does that. Go Blue. But anyway.)
If youāre going to make a growth chart poster of a player who is almost seven feet tall, it is outright cheating to make a three-foot poster and tell everyone to hang it four feet above the floor. No. I want a real poster. The Natalie Williams poster on one side of my bedroom door is getting beat up (kind of like Natalie herself in her playing days, come to think of it) and I was hoping to replace it with the Han poster.
If you believe Tiffany Hayesās body language, she nearly died three times this afternoon. Par for the course, really. Between her, Alyssa āwhere weāre going we donāt need labrumsā Thomas and Rebecca āI only broke my rib and punctured my lung a littleā Allen, I am a bit concerned about the Connecticut Sunās commitment to saving their players from themselves.
Shoutout to the two busloads of Sun fans who came down for the game. At some point weāll return the favor, Iām sure, but not in a season where our games at Mohegan are a Wednesday morning in the preseason and 7PM on a Tuesday and a Thursday. Funny how our games at Mohegan always seem to be midweek games. (There was a Saturday game in 2021, when I doubt anyone was willingly getting on a bus with a bunch of strangers. Before that? The last time the Liberty played at Connecticut on a weekend was 2015, which was the year that someone in the Sun group sales office probably got fired, possibly out of a cannon, because they seated the Liberty bus in the section behind the Sun bench. SUS AF.)
(And yes, I did just go back through seven seasons of WNBA schedules on basketball-reference, and I did just cross-reference my own Game Notes of Doom {and count the number of times I said āI am never going to Connecticut on a Camp Day againā, because it is >1}. Because if Iām gonna talk shit, bitch is gonna have the receipts.)
We dared Natisha Hiedeman to shoot, and for the most part it went well. Connecticut doesnāt have a lot of defensive vulnerabilities, but once we found them we committed acts of unspeakable carnage upon them.
Now we get to see how this team reacts on the road, and how Marine fits into the scheme. Iām intrigued and nervous and excited and is it Tuesday yet?
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/27/23 8:58 pm ::: |
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Queenie wrote: |
But goddamn this team is fun to watch when theyāre in gear.
Sloot reminded us all she could score the ball, and Stewie filled the stat sheet, but have we talked enough about the work Kayla Thornton did on the glass and on defense today? Sheās so tough and sheās amazing and I love her.
Also I think this is the first time, or at least the longest amount of time, Iāve seen Nyara Sabally play, and now I understand the hype. She brings an element of physicality that, for all our post congestion, none of the other bigs really seem to match. She thicc.
Now we get to see how this team reacts on the road, and how Marine fits into the scheme. Iām intrigued and nervous and excited and is it Tuesday yet? |
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 05/27/23 8:58 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
I have never seen a player who is more well liked by her teammates and coaches, and is often given a lot of credit for a lot of things, be as disrespected by fans, like Dolson. Is she a great player? No! But she is a good player, who has a purpose, seems to be very good for chemistry and in the locker room. Yup! |
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NYSports56
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Mixolydian
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Posted: 05/27/23 10:21 pm ::: |
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THOROUGHLY enjoyable post, Queenie!
Sabally looked great today, I was impressed.
I'm fully on the Libs bandwagon this year. Just so much fun to watch and I'm a massive fan of like 3/4 of their roster. It still feels like I'm watching an all-star game seeing all of them on the same team.
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RavenDog
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Posted: 05/28/23 8:52 am ::: |
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Floor time takes on a whole different meaning when referring to Hayes.
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Rock Hard
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 5376 Location: Chocolate Paradise
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Posted: 05/28/23 1:48 pm ::: |
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I only read Liberty threads just to read Queenie's posts. She never disappoints with her eloquence and humor.
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bryan_february_
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Posted: 05/29/23 5:51 am ::: |
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Does anyone know what Dijonai Carrington did to end up in the doghouse?
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