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johnjohnW
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Posted: 01/15/23 7:17 pm ::: |
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Eh. I'm not amped about this. I've always thought JJ is oberhyped in this league. Free agency is off to an exciting start.
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Posted: 01/15/23 7:42 pm ::: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Eh. I'm not amped about this. I've always thought JJ is oberhyped in this league. Free agency is off to an exciting start. |
It’s going to get so much better I definitely feel it it for sure more so than ever. Super teams not including last seasons PHX implosion will be real. In more than one city.
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Bob Lamm
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/15/23 8:47 pm ::: |
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Late last season I wasn't convinced that Clara Wu Tsai and Joe Tsai would bring Jonathan Kolb back for another year as general manager of the Liberty. Once it was clear that they were, I felt certain that 2023 would be decisive for Kolb. One more mediocre season and he'd be out. So I thought that during this offseason he'd do all he could to make big moves.
Now he has. Hopefully followed by Stewart coming to New York. If not, then I suspect Kolb will make another significant move if it all possible. This team should be a genuine contender this season.
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Posted: 01/15/23 10:04 pm ::: |
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DTP wrote: |
The only real benefit of doing this deal now for them is being able to re-sign Jones quickly. |
This was my first thought after seeing the deal, from the CT Sun POV. The quad of JJ, Alyssa, BJones and "the stick" did not get them a 'ship so it was time to break up the band. I realize JJ was the one instigating the trade but I also think new leadership thought BJones fit better with the other two members of that quad. In other words, Being able to offer BJones a supermax was a priority for them so someone else had to go - and it wasn't going to be "the engine."
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 01/15/23 10:22 pm ::: |
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Acquiring J.J. is a solid move. This will move the Liberty as the number one contender for the 2023 championship IF they can get Stewart.💵🏆
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 01/15/23 11:00 pm ::: |
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Well crap this is a very interesting unexpected move
there does seem to be a Stewart sized hole at PF and considering Jones is cheaper than Howard and we can replace Allen guaranteed 136k with Thortons 110k contract there is no reason we can't go after Stewart and if we keep the rest cheap we might even be able to go with 12 instead of 11 even with Stewart
with that said if we don't get Stewart we can always bring in one of Sabally or Kone to take some PF minutes and if we still have both Dolson and Han Xu as options at center maybe we experiment with some big line ups with Jones at the 4, not sure about defense but with Jonquel, Dolson and Han Xu all having a three point shot they could probably exist together on the offensive side, and we could probably get some minutes with Onyenwere or Thorton at the 4 as well.
Before Stewart (I am putting out a different group of starters for more balanced looking roster but TBH I would probably start both Ionescu and Johannes) for this line up I am also assuming Kone and Sabally both show up and our healthy as that seemed to be the plan for them last season and I am doing my big line up but don't take the starters too seriously just mixing it up for fun, and to solve our back up PG problem but again truth be told we might have to sign a back up PG I would see if L, Allen is gettable but we would probably be looking at vet minimum so someone might pay a little more
Ionescu/Johannes
Laney/Richards/Willoughby
Thorton/Onyenwere
J. Jones/Kone/Sabally
Dolson/Han Xu
I would be totally OK with this and this is probably good enough to contend
so if we bring in Stewart and a Back up PG we probably only need one of Kone, Sabally, Onyenwere
but going full fantasy ATM and pretending we can sqeak by with a roster of 12
Ionescu/L. Allen ?
Johannes/Richards/Willoughby
Laney/Thorton
Stewart/Kone
J. Jones/Han Xu/Dolson
I am more excited about Kone than I am about Sabally ATM
Willoughby's guaranteed contract protects her so last cut comes down to Richards or Onyenwere and Richards wins for me by a hair
my only slight disappointment or relief in the trade (besides missing Howard, Allen and Dangerfield all of whom I like) is we no longer have to pay attention to this years draftees (6 was a crap shoot anyway) but I do always enjoy that pre-draft time and lets face it our 3rd round pick ain't making it,
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/15/23 11:44 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
so if we bring in Stewart and a Back up PG we probably only need one of Kone, Sabally, Onyenwere
but going full fantasy ATM and pretending we can sqeak by with a roster of 12
Ionescu/L. Allen ?
Johannes/Richards/Willoughby
Laney/Thorton
Stewart/Kone
J. Jones/Han Xu/Dolson
I am more excited about Kone than I am about Sabally ATM
Willoughby's guaranteed contract protects her so last cut comes down to Richards or Onyenwere and Richards wins for me by a hair
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I always liked Lindsey Allen and would be happy to see her return. Dangerfield's play last season convinced me that having a genuine backup point guard out there at times with Sabrina had value for the Liberty.
I don't know enough about Kone or Sabally to say which is better. Certainly Kone seems quite intriguing.
I prefer Onyenwere over Richards. On the other hand, with Willoughby presumably on the team because of her guaranteed contract perhaps it makes more sense to have Willoughby and Richards rather than Willoughby and Onyenwere.
Apart from whether Stewart comes or not, it's easy to imagine Kolb making a trade just because of the roster crunch. Perhaps two for one or trading someone named above for a 2024 second round draft pick.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 01/15/23 11:53 pm ::: |
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Yes no offense to Willoughby but I have been thinking Willoughby for a second round pick n 24 would be a good move teams like Atl, Sea, Chi and LA have wide open rosters cap to spare and if they are win now Willoughby would be better on their bench than a 2nd round pick or never been in the W camp invite
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