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Richyyy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 24408 Location: London
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Posted: 10/15/21 7:16 am ::: |
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She's only a reserved player if given a reserved qualifying offer (as explained in various places on that Her Hoop Stats site ). Once given that qualifying offer, she could technically just sign it and she would've been re-signed with Atlanta. So as they've stated they absolutely won't be re-signing her, I presume they won't be sending out the qualifying offer and she would therefore become an unrestricted free agent. And then couldn't be traded for anything. |
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pilight
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Richyyy
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Posted: 10/25/21 9:47 am ::: |
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Move that makes a lot of sense. Took a long time to get there, but hiring the guy who's won GM of the Year both the last two seasons can't really be argued with. And it means that hiring Wright as head coach first was probably fine, given their links in Vegas. Assuming Padover was always the planned hire, Wright might well have essentially been his choice. |
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PUmatty
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 16382 Location: Chicago
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Posted: 10/25/21 10:41 am ::: |
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Great hire for Atlanta, but I wonder why he wanted to move on from Vegas?
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BamaEd
Joined: 11 May 2014 Posts: 874 Location: United States
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Posted: 10/25/21 11:36 am ::: |
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Those are wonderful hires, worth the wait. I would have rather waited for the right hire rather than choose the wrong one just to get someone in there. Maybe this will entice Angel to want to come back to Atlanta to end her career? I think they realized with the GM fired and HC leaving right before the season, this would have been a lost season. Now though, they can plan on what players they want to keep, want to let go, want to get, need to draft. I hate that it meant 2021 was such a wash in their first season at the new arena, but hoping for good things in 2022.
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root_thing
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Posted: 10/25/21 12:27 pm ::: |
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Even though he won Executive of the Year twice, Padover would always be in Laimbeer's shadow if he stayed in Las Vegas. Bill brought Dan over from New York and is essentially his mentor. This is Padover's chance to be his own man without having to defer to someone of greater stature.
Padover's relationship with Tanisha Wright also extends back to New York as well as Las Vegas, so they start with a lot of familiarity and hopefully trust.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 10/25/21 2:18 pm ::: |
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Between Vickie Johnson with the Wings, Tanisha Wright with the Dream, and now Dan Padover also with the Dream, it is genuinely interesting to me that people originating from the Aces organization have been able to branch out & go elsewhere, despite coming from a team that hasn't actually reached the highest level – winning a title. Laimbeer hasn't won a title since '08, but apparently his legacy as an influential figure in this League has continued to live on. Not saying any of those above are bad hires, since it's certainly too soon to tell. Not saying that Laimbeer sucks now or that any of it is weird/undeservedly happening either. Just noticing things out loud. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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lethalweapon3
Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 335 Location: ATL ITP, GA
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Posted: 10/26/21 7:45 am ::: |
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I am HERE for the Danisha pairing!
I won't say it was worth the wait, but good work, Renee and the Northland Overlords!
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 11/04/21 7:38 pm ::: |
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Looks like Monique Billings has replaced Renee Montgomery, on the Hawks' halftime show?
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johnjohnW
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Stormeo
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Posted: 11/11/21 1:33 pm ::: |
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I would think it’s both possible and okay for someone to criticize Renee Montgomery The Business Owner and/or Renee Montgomery The TV Personality, while still being happy for Renee Montgomery The Person on what was surely an important personal accomplishment of hers. Congrats to her!
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 11/11/21 2:01 pm ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
I would think it’s both possible and okay for someone to criticize Renee Montgomery The Business Owner and/or Renee Montgomery The TV Personality, while still being happy for Renee Montgomery The Person on what was surely an important personal accomplishment of hers. Congrats to her! |
Agreed. I was being glib there. It's just been a wild ride seeing how much heat she's gotten for everything.
Congrats to her.
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Shades
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Posted: 11/25/21 7:37 pm ::: |
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Happy Thanksgiving, Dream fans!
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Stormeo
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Posted: 12/20/21 12:01 am ::: |
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Soooo... do you offer Washington the #3 + Carter for the #1 if you're Atlanta? Otherwise, who do you pick if you keep the #3?
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 12/20/21 12:19 am ::: |
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I think Atl is in a pretty good position
Probably draft Austin but either Austin or Hillmon could fit
They got a ton of cap so throw some hard to match contracts at Deshields and Hines-Allen (or Russell) and re-sign Sims, Billings and Dietrick on reasonable contracts
Carter/McDonald
Sims
Deshields/Dietrick
Hines-Allen/Billings
Ch. Parker/Austin
That is a decent starting point not a contender but enough to compete for the playoffs and young enough to build towards the future fill out the remaining spots with pick 14 and the waiver wire
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 12/20/21 12:21 am ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Soooo... do you offer Washington the #3 + Carter for the #1 if you're Atlanta? Otherwise, who do you pick if you keep the #3? |
Austin.
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Stormeo
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pilight
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Posted: 12/20/21 8:43 am ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Soooo... do you offer Washington the #3 + Carter for the #1 if you're Atlanta? Otherwise, who do you pick if you keep the #3? |
No!
Draft Shakira Austin
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DFWub2018
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Stormeo
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Posted: 12/20/21 1:22 pm ::: |
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If we gave Collier up for the #3 spot who would we pick to replace her? |
Austin, as mentioned by those above. Seems like most everyone is high on her.
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myrtle
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Posted: 12/21/21 4:23 pm ::: |
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I haven't actually seen enough of Austin to really have a 'feeling' about her. Her numbers aren't very impressive. Admittedly my 'rankings' are with fantasy game in mind rather than W potential, but I currently have her as #225 in the country in terms of her numbers. That's really really low for a top pick, especially considering her team to date has played quite a few weak teams. Their win today over SoFla is a good win of course, but even there her numbers aren't awe-inspiring.
Still I have to defer to those who have actually watched her play.
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root_thing
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Posted: 12/21/21 4:53 pm ::: |
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Austin's numbers are significantly down so far this year. Actually, a lot of players have seen a drop-off: Hillmon, Cunane, Joens are three others. Probably none as much as Austin. Shakira's numbers have always been all over the place. As a freshman, she had a lot of blocks. As a sophomore, her blocks total plunged but her points went way up. So, it's not primarily about the numbers. With Austin, it's the athleticism -- the fluid way she moves for a 6-5 player. She's also attempting to be a player with a complete game -- meaning passing, shooting, handling, etc. She isn't there yet by any means. However, Shakira seemingly took a big step forward last year. I haven't seen Austin yet this season, so I can't comment on why she's been struggling. Has her supporting cast changed? Are defenses focusing more on Austin? Or has she regressed on her own?
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pilight
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Posted: 12/21/21 6:39 pm ::: |
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Angel McCoughtry's twitter feed has a series of videos of her and Chennedy Carter practicing, like this one...
https://twitter.com/angel_35/status/1473436355229368322
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Shades
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Posted: 12/23/21 1:17 pm ::: |
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How about #3 pick for Dearica Hamby?
Then you would have a lineup of
Carter/McDonald
Hayes (UFA)
McCoughtry (UFA)
Hamby (signed LVA $142K)
Parker (190K)
But Billings is pretty good and she’s a RFA, so maybe it would be better to pay her and keep the pick.
Hawkins is signed non-guaranteed at $144K. Relatively speaking, way too much for her. Let her go.
It’ll pain pilight to hear this, but they can probably let EWill go unless she’ll play off the bench for around 💯K. Sounds like she might be doing well in EuroLeague tho.
I was thinking money might be tight over at LVA if they pay Wilson max and Cambage mega-max, so maybe they’d consider a trade if the deal was right.
There seems to be this flow of LVA parts to ATL: GM, coach, likely McCoughtry. Hamby is also hanging out with McCoughtry in Georgia. 🤔
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