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singinerd54
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UConn up 18-14 after 1.
USF is pretty well-coached; they run some quality sets offensively and can shoot. Not sure why we're still in the 1-2-2 press when they've beat it multiple times for open 3s. Nice to see the last play of the quarter drawn up for Fudd, and for her to make the shot.
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singinerd54
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| Posted: 11/21/21 12:43 pm ::: |
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I like that Geno is playing both Muhl and Ducharme, but playing them together, at this time, leads to not pretty offense.
I noticed Ducharme was "first" on the bench, next to CD, at the beginning of the game, to be the fourth player in the game.
I think it's important for Ducharme to get minutes, in thinking ahead to next year. Presumably she or Muhl will be the third backcourt starter.
Paige getting picked on some defensively, but overall, a better defensive effort. Despite shooting 52% from the floor and 46% from 3, we only have 34 points at the half.
Azzi has listened to Geno's insistence about shooting sooner than Paige did.
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:00 pm ::: |
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UConn's defense is good, but the offense of the bigs still isn't.
Never been a fan of Muhl's offensive game. Don't think she adds much other than an assist now and then.
Want to see more DuCharme and especially, Amari DeBerry, who was the 3/4/15 ranked player coming out of high school, but hasn't been given even one minute of playing time this season. Must be a record for such a high ranked recruit. C'mon, Geno, she's a big of the future after ONO and Juhasz leave. |
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singinerd54
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:11 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
UConn's defense is good, but the offense of the bigs still isn't.
Never been a fan of Muhl's offensive game. Don't think she adds much other than an assist now and then.
Want to see more DuCharme and especially, Amari DeBerry, who was the 3/4/15 ranked player coming out of high school, but hasn't been given even one minute of playing time this season. Must be a record for such a high ranked recruit. C'mon, Geno, she's a big of the future after ONO and Juhasz leave. |
Running post-ups for the bigs isn't effective. They're better as finishers and facilitators. The defensive rebounding must get better.
I view Muhl, McLean, and Griffin as a defensive/energy/hustle option, which has its place and time. I agree she doesn't have much offense to contribute. If she can distribute, defend, and make open 3s next year, that would be great.
DeBerry appears to be below Gabriel on the depth chart, which is   Edwards is the keeper.
More Westbrook, less Williams, please.
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:13 pm ::: |
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Bulls making a game of this - down only 1 42-41 and Beuckers just turned the ball over.....
USF now leads 43-42 with a minute left in the 3rd.....
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:15 pm ::: |
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| Game tied 45-45 at the end of the 3rd quarter. It's a 10-minute game, now......
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:16 pm ::: |
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| Paige his a pretty miracle 3 to tie it up going into the 4th. Disappointing 3rd quarter for UConn. USF has been the aggressor.
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:17 pm ::: |
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| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:40 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
I'm disappointed in Geno's lack of development of a two post offense. He has posts that have some basic skills. He had a whole offseason to develop some schemes.
As an aside, the game was so fast. Done 1:35 minutes after the start. Only 10 free throws and 22 fouls.
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:42 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
Our rebounding is pathetic because the USF defense gives you outside shots and we had to have Evina at the 4 most of the game. I expect to see more bigs tomorrow against SC/Oregon because that's the makeup of both teams.
This is ALWAAAAAAYS games against USF have gone.
Let's flip this. How is SC/Oregon going to guard our permieter?
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Conway Gamecock
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| Posted: 11/21/21 1:44 pm ::: |
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Connecticut wins 60-45. Out-scored USF 15-8 in the 4th period. USF out-rebounded CT 34-29, and 21-13 after the half - although CT relied heavily on the 3-pt shot after halftime - and CT had 15 turnovers to USF's 11. Nelson-Ododa had 5 pts on 2-3 shooting, with 5 rebounds, Edwards was scoreless on 0-3 shooting, with 3 boards, and Juhasz scored 2 pts on 1-1 shooting, with a team-leading 6 rebounds.....
They await the winner of the next game.....
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 11/21/21 2:02 pm ::: |
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Let's flip this. How is SC/Oregon going to guard our permieter? |
27 of UConn's 47 shots -- 57.4% -- were 3pt shots. Half of UConn's puny 22 made baskets were 3's. Such a heavy reliance on arc heaves is the sign of a desperate and weak half court offense.
11 3pt makes is pretty good in the abstract, and I wouldn't expect more than that against S.Car. or Oregon. But that has to be coupled with some sort of effective post game to beat a top team, which UConn hasn't shown it has. Seven total points from a 6-5, 6-5 and 6-3 against a short team like USF is pathetic. None of those three bigs has shown any scoring this season.
Worse, Edwards and Juhasz have been outrebounded by Bueckers and Westbrook over the three games. ONO can at least make passes.
Geno obviously lacks confidence in his bigs when he frequently goes to a four guard offense, and even once or twice a five guard offense. |
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Conway Gamecock
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| Posted: 11/21/21 2:33 pm ::: |
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| ucbart wrote: |
| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
Our rebounding is pathetic because the USF defense gives you outside shots and we had to have Evina at the 4 most of the game. I expect to see more bigs tomorrow against SC/Oregon because that's the makeup of both teams.
This is ALWAAAAAAYS games against USF have gone.
Let's flip this. How is SC/Oregon going to guard our permieter? |
It's a good question....
I can't speak for Oregon, but coming into this game, BOTH USC and CT were averaing 6.5 3-pt. FGs made. 13 for CT's 2 games thus far, and 26 for USC's 4 games. CT averaged 34.2% 3-pt FG% (13 for 38 ) - good for 87th nationally in the early season. The Gamecocks averaged 41.9% (26 for 62), good enough for 22nd nationally.
Coming into this game, USC held it's opponents to 23.1 3-pt. FG% (15 of 65), good for 64th nationally. CT held it's 2 opponents to 34.8% 3-pt. FG% (16 for 46), good enough for 278th nationally.
Also, what threat will CT pose with their post presence that will force the Gamecock guards away from their perimeter game, to give guards open looks from the 3? ONO, Juhasz, and Edwards COMBINED to score 7 points today on 3-7 shooting. What presence will the Gamecocks provide for the same reasons?
We shall see.......
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 11/21/21 2:58 pm ::: |
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| Conway Gamecock wrote: |
| ucbart wrote: |
| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
Our rebounding is pathetic because the USF defense gives you outside shots and we had to have Evina at the 4 most of the game. I expect to see more bigs tomorrow against SC/Oregon because that's the makeup of both teams.
This is ALWAAAAAAYS games against USF have gone.
Let's flip this. How is SC/Oregon going to guard our permieter? |
It's a good question....
I can't speak for Oregon, but coming into this game, BOTH USC and CT were averaing 6.5 3-pt. FGs made. 13 for CT's 2 games thus far, and 26 for USC's 4 games. CT averaged 34.2% 3-pt FG% (13 for 38 ) - good for 87th nationally in the early season. The Gamecocks averaged 41.9% (26 for 62), good enough for 22nd nationally.
Coming into this game, USC held it's opponents to 23.1 3-pt. FG% (15 of 65), good for 64th nationally. CT held it's 2 opponents to 34.8% 3-pt. FG% (16 for 46), good enough for 278th nationally.
Also, what threat will CT pose with their post presence that will force the Gamecock guards away from their perimeter game, to give guards open looks from the 3? ONO, Juhasz, and Edwards COMBINED to score 7 points today on 3-7 shooting. What presence will the Gamecocks provide for the same reasons?
We shall see....... |
A good and apt statistical analysis, Conway.
UConn has not had an impressive 3pt "perimeter" offense in their three games this season, unless one considers today's 3pt perimeter game "impressive". In the first two games the offense was heavily guard dominated, but mostly by guard drives, slashes and fast breaks -- by Bueckers, Williams and Westbrook -- not by any sort of dangerous 3pt perimeter threat. And UConn's 3pt defense, as the stats bear out, has been almost historically weak for them. |
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| Posted: 11/21/21 6:33 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| Conway Gamecock wrote: |
| ucbart wrote: |
| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| UConn's bigs suck pumpkins on offense and the rebounding is pathetic. If UConn has difficulty scoring on USF, they won't have a prayer against S.Car., even if they make it to that game. |
Our rebounding is pathetic because the USF defense gives you outside shots and we had to have Evina at the 4 most of the game. I expect to see more bigs tomorrow against SC/Oregon because that's the makeup of both teams.
This is ALWAAAAAAYS games against USF have gone.
Let's flip this. How is SC/Oregon going to guard our permieter? |
It's a good question....
I can't speak for Oregon, but coming into this game, BOTH USC and CT were averaing 6.5 3-pt. FGs made. 13 for CT's 2 games thus far, and 26 for USC's 4 games. CT averaged 34.2% 3-pt FG% (13 for 38 ) - good for 87th nationally in the early season. The Gamecocks averaged 41.9% (26 for 62), good enough for 22nd nationally.
Coming into this game, USC held it's opponents to 23.1 3-pt. FG% (15 of 65), good for 64th nationally. CT held it's 2 opponents to 34.8% 3-pt. FG% (16 for 46), good enough for 278th nationally.
Also, what threat will CT pose with their post presence that will force the Gamecock guards away from their perimeter game, to give guards open looks from the 3? ONO, Juhasz, and Edwards COMBINED to score 7 points today on 3-7 shooting. What presence will the Gamecocks provide for the same reasons?
We shall see....... |
A good and apt statistical analysis, Conway.
UConn has not had an impressive 3pt "perimeter" offense in their three games this season, unless one considers today's 3pt perimeter game "impressive". In the first two games the offense was heavily guard dominated, but mostly by guard drives, slashes and fast breaks -- by Bueckers, Williams and Westbrook -- not by any sort of dangerous 3pt perimeter threat. And UConn's 3pt defense, as the stats bear out, has been almost historically weak for them. |
Williams is a perimeter player and had 31 yesterday, albeit a string of backdoor layups but made possible because Williams has a perimeter game. Bueckers 34 pt game was a virtual textbook display of mid-range shooting from 10 -15 '.
An accurate statistical analysis but the reliability of stats is directly proportional to the size of the sample, in UConn's case, 2 games.
Today Fudd went 6-9 from 3 and there was no statistical evidence from her 1st 2 games to predict that. A fluke? Maybe Or maybe it's evidence that she could provide 15-20 very efficient pts a game on her 3 pt shooting alone.
As poor as ONO looked today her passing against Minn was outstanding.
Where did I put that half full glass of wine?
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| Posted: 11/22/21 8:05 am ::: |
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| UConn will need to play better to beat South Carolina
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