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mzonefan
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Posted: 08/18/21 5:08 pm ::: Versyp investigated at Purdue |
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https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2021/08/18/purdue-womens-basketball-coach-sharon-versyp-accused-creating-toxic-hostile-environment/8178175002/
“Purdue University is investigating allegations that women’s basketball coach Sharon Versyp created a “toxic and hostile environment” by verbally attacking players, using personal information to “bring them down” and “bullying” a member of her coaching staff, according to an internal document.
Terry Kix, the director of women’s basketball operations, who reports to Versyp, is also cited prominently in the document for several incidents. They include cussing out players, and hitting a player’s arm and knocking a cell phone out of her hand.”
As a fan of another B1G team, I’ve always wondered how Kix was allowed to be so vocal with players during games as a DBO.
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 08/18/21 5:32 pm ::: Re: Versyp investigated at Purdue |
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mzonefan wrote: |
https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2021/08/18/purdue-womens-basketball-coach-sharon-versyp-accused-creating-toxic-hostile-environment/8178175002/
“Purdue University is investigating allegations that women’s basketball coach Sharon Versyp created a “toxic and hostile environment” by verbally attacking players, using personal information to “bring them down” and “bullying” a member of her coaching staff, according to an internal document.
Terry Kix, the director of women’s basketball operations, who reports to Versyp, is also cited prominently in the document for several incidents. They include cussing out players, and hitting a player’s arm and knocking a cell phone out of her hand.”
As a fan of another B1G team, I’ve always wondered how Kix was allowed to be so vocal with players during games as a DBO. |
I met Terry at the FF in Indy a few years ago. Thanked me for being a fan and said that if I ever wanted to go to a game, to call her. I think I might still have her card around here somewhere. She was very pleasant under those circumstances.
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 08/18/21 5:54 pm ::: |
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Anonymous player denies allegations. Could it be #33? She is very prominent in the video clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIqHIthZ7UE
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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mzonefan
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Posted: 08/18/21 6:42 pm ::: |
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How odd is it that a player wants to remain anonymous in support of her coach?
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Posted: 08/18/21 6:55 pm ::: |
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mzonefan wrote: |
How odd is it that a player wants to remain anonymous in support of her coach? |
I didn't think that was odd at all. What I thought was odd was that the video showed one player in 90% of the game clips. Was that WFLI's way of saying who the player was without saying? It seems pretty low if they were. And it seems pretty low if #33 wasn't the player that wanted to remain anonymous and they used so many clips of her because people are going to think it was her.
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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Howee
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Posted: 08/18/21 9:07 pm ::: |
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Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet?
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Posted: 08/18/21 9:24 pm ::: |
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Howee wrote: |
Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet? |
Kind of, sort of, to both questions.
Last spring they named former player Katie Gearlds as an associate coach for this coming year and then next year she would take over and Versyp would be gone. Looks like that timeline is going to be moved up a few months.
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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ucbart
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Posted: 08/19/21 6:42 pm ::: |
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These kids are just ridiculously soft. My goodness. I hope none of them ever get a job in the restaurant business.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 08/20/21 9:52 am ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
These kids are just ridiculously soft. My goodness. I hope none of them ever get a job in the restaurant business. |
I hope the restaurant business can figure out how to be a less toxic work environment.
About Versyp, these specifics don't seem like good leadership, but they also don't seem terrible to me. I don't know. Maybe there is more here. But all of it, to me, just shows out clearly she wasn't up to the job the last few years and that she should have been fired well before now. She certainly didn't earn the extra year she got to train her replacement.
Also, there has been smoke about Versyp leading a bad environment for the team for years, and rumors that previous players and at least one asst coach left because of Versyp's demeanor/attitude.
Beth Couture was fired from Butler for similar reasons - and then was hired by Versyp as an assistant. More smoke.
Also, Terry Kix is Versyp's wife. Very strange that this story doesn't mention it and I have always thought it was inappropriate to have her as the DOBO. More smoke.
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Michael
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Posted: 08/23/21 2:16 pm ::: |
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Ex-Ref wrote: |
Howee wrote: |
Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet? |
Kind of, sort of, to both questions.
Last spring they named former player Katie Gearlds as an associate coach for this coming year and then next year she would take over and Versyp would be gone. Looks like that timeline is going to be moved up a few months. |
I very seriously doubt anything gets done about this by the AD.... he spent his five minutes for the year on WBB by setting up the ridiculous succession plan of bringing in an NAIA coach with no other coaching experience as a coach in training situation for a year to learn under Versyp, but then publicly charging her with changing the culture of the WBB program, after she learns it from Versyp..... Frankly WBB at Purdue has been ignored and mismanaged for at least 20 years and unless that drastically changes, we won't get a competent coach or a return to winning ways IMHO.
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 08/23/21 7:55 pm ::: |
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#33 is current Sophomore Madison Layden, who was not with the team in 2018.
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 08/23/21 7:57 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
These kids are just ridiculously soft. My goodness. I hope none of them ever get a job in the restaurant business. |
That is neither here nore there. I worked in restaurants in Seattle for 11 years before COVID and am desperately trying to avoid being sucked back into the hallscape. And I had GOOOOD jobs compared to the average.
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Posted: 08/23/21 8:33 pm ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Ex-Ref wrote: |
Howee wrote: |
Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet? |
Kind of, sort of, to both questions.
Last spring they named former player Katie Gearlds as an associate coach for this coming year and then next year she would take over and Versyp would be gone. Looks like that timeline is going to be moved up a few months. |
I very seriously doubt anything gets done about this by the AD.... he spent his five minutes for the year on WBB by setting up the ridiculous succession plan of bringing in an NAIA coach with no other coaching experience as a coach in training situation for a year to learn under Versyp, but then publicly charging her with changing the culture of the WBB program, after she learns it from Versyp..... Frankly WBB at Purdue has been ignored and mismanaged for at least 20 years and unless that drastically changes, we won't get a competent coach or a return to winning ways IMHO. |
The AD may not have a choice.
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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Posted: 08/23/21 8:38 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
#33 is current Sophomore Madison Layden, who was not with the team in 2018. |
Thanks.
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 08/23/21 10:20 pm ::: |
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I Loved Rowdy!
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 08/24/21 3:19 am ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
#33 is current Sophomore Madison Layden, who was not with the team in 2018. |
Thanks. |
No worries. I think maybe the reason she was featured so prominantly in the provided footage is because she is expected to be Purdue's star player for the next few years.
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Posted: 08/24/21 7:21 am ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
#33 is current Sophomore Madison Layden, who was not with the team in 2018. |
Thanks. |
No worries. I think maybe the reason she was featured so prominantly in the provided footage is because she is expected to be Purdue's star player for the next few years. |
Thanks again. I was wondering, but having trouble wording the question. That makes sense, in a way. I mean I understand using a player that is expected to be the star for the next couple of years in a report about the team. It does seem weird to do it for a 'bad news' report that is totally unrelated to her. I would have thought that they would have had more shots of Versyp on the sidelines.
_________________ "Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw
“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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Michael
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Posted: 08/30/21 7:29 am ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Ex-Ref wrote: |
Howee wrote: |
Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet? |
Kind of, sort of, to both questions.
Last spring they named former player Katie Gearlds as an associate coach for this coming year and then next year she would take over and Versyp would be gone. Looks like that timeline is going to be moved up a few months. |
I very seriously doubt anything gets done about this by the AD.... he spent his five minutes for the year on WBB by setting up the ridiculous succession plan of bringing in an NAIA coach with no other coaching experience as a coach in training situation for a year to learn under Versyp, but then publicly charging her with changing the culture of the WBB program, after she learns it from Versyp..... Frankly WBB at Purdue has been ignored and mismanaged for at least 20 years and unless that drastically changes, we won't get a competent coach or a return to winning ways IMHO. |
The AD may not have a choice. |
Sure he does, ignore it and wait till it blows over..... 4 players left after he failed to fire Versyp this last year, and still he did next to nothing. He had to be pursuaded hard to even do this silly coach in waiting replacement as he was intent on just letting Versyp's contract run out and then look for someone.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 08/30/21 5:41 pm ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Ex-Ref wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
Ex-Ref wrote: |
Howee wrote: |
Pardon my ignorance here, but....hasn't she been dismissed? Do they have a replacement for her yet? |
Kind of, sort of, to both questions.
Last spring they named former player Katie Gearlds as an associate coach for this coming year and then next year she would take over and Versyp would be gone. Looks like that timeline is going to be moved up a few months. |
I very seriously doubt anything gets done about this by the AD.... he spent his five minutes for the year on WBB by setting up the ridiculous succession plan of bringing in an NAIA coach with no other coaching experience as a coach in training situation for a year to learn under Versyp, but then publicly charging her with changing the culture of the WBB program, after she learns it from Versyp..... Frankly WBB at Purdue has been ignored and mismanaged for at least 20 years and unless that drastically changes, we won't get a competent coach or a return to winning ways IMHO. |
The AD may not have a choice. |
Sure he does, ignore it and wait till it blows over..... 4 players left after he failed to fire Versyp this last year, and still he did next to nothing. He had to be pursuaded hard to even do this silly coach in waiting replacement as he was intent on just letting Versyp's contract run out and then look for someone. |
That probably would have been the better option ...
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pilight
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bucks4now
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Posted: 09/16/21 3:34 pm ::: |
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It would be interesting to see what all they discovered in the investigation.
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NoDakSt
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Posted: 09/16/21 4:37 pm ::: |
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With vespyer gone and Caldwell/Fargas gone, and Neubauer gone and Williams-Flourney gone My annual entries into the” coaches on the hot seat” thread have all been wiped out in the space of 5 months.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 09/16/21 5:05 pm ::: |
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Wow. I certainly did not see this coming.
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