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Posted: 08/05/21 1:29 pm ::: |
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but on point, he doesn't directly say anything about that poor last leg. Normally the anchor is the fastest guy. Why didn't we have the fastest guy there? Instead we had a guy who finished 6th in the 100 at the US trials. I guess Lewis makes the point indirectly by saying that all the agents want their guy to get a medal. Anyway we got what we deserved. |
He doesn't refer to specifics, but he mentions "athletes running the wrong legs," (quoted in the article). So I'd say it's safe to assume he's including the last leg in that statement.
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Posted: 08/05/21 4:20 pm ::: |
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It is interesting that Jamaica can have so many top, top world class runners. Is it genetics? What they eat? How they train? I assume it's not all illegal since only a few of them have been caught at it... but there are enough in that group over quite a few years, that it is somewhat concerning.
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Posted: 08/05/21 6:12 pm ::: |
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It does also spiral from previous success. Kids see someone from their country succeeding in a particular sport or discipline, and suddenly any young person in that country with a scrap of athletic talent is giving that thing a try. Also the funding tends to go towards stuff that the country's already had some success in (things like rowing and cycling get an enormous amount of money over here, for example).
But yes, I imagine there's also a genetic element to it somewhere along the line. That's the sort of thing I expect there have been scientific studies and doctoral theses written about if you really wanted to dive into it. |
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Posted: 08/05/21 8:48 pm ::: |
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Some people wondered how East Germany and small Soviet bloc countries could win so many running and strength events in the 1970's and 80's.
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Carl Lewis specifically called out the horrible stick passing, lack of relay practice, and the third leg run by Ronnie Baker. The third leg is all turn, and Baker never runs a turn, as 200 and 400 meter runners must do expertly, because he's strictly a 100 meter flats guy. |
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Posted: 08/06/21 9:07 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
It is interesting that Jamaica can have so many top, top world class runners. Is it genetics? What they eat? How they train? I assume it's not all illegal since only a few of them have been caught at it... but there are enough in that group over quite a few years, that it is somewhat concerning. |
To succeed at a sport requires some combination of history/tradition in the sport, youth development programs, and institutional support.
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Posted: 08/06/21 9:25 am ::: |
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Allyson Felix snags her 10th medal!
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Posted: 08/06/21 11:15 am ::: |
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Allyson Felix snags her 10th medal! |
Is she going to run in the relay?
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Posted: 08/06/21 11:22 am ::: |
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Silky Johnson wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Allyson Felix snags her 10th medal! |
Is she going to run in the relay? |
I certainly hope so! The real question is who else will be on the team?
Hayes
Mu
Muhammad
McLaughlin
Any of those four along with Felix can win the gold.
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Posted: 08/06/21 5:56 pm ::: |
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enjoyed watching Canada winning the gold in soccer over Sweden. a good game. And a heroine in Fleming.
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Posted: 08/06/21 8:04 pm ::: |
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Nelly Korda seems to be imploding
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Posted: 08/06/21 8:41 pm ::: |
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Nelly Korda seems to be imploding |
Then she rallies with three straight birdies
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Posted: 08/06/21 10:04 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
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Nelly Korda seems to be imploding |
Then she rallies with three straight birdies |
Clinging to a one-stroke lead, with three holes to go. Hang in there, Nelly!
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Posted: 08/06/21 10:55 pm ::: |
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Hard to imagine who is going to be more negatively affected by this lightning delay.
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Posted: 08/06/21 11:31 pm ::: |
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Inami hit it into the bunker!
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Posted: 08/06/21 11:36 pm ::: |
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Team USA men showing the value of having some quality defenders in the lineup. I thought it was the main difference in the gold medal game.
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Posted: 08/06/21 11:43 pm ::: |
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Ko fails to birdie #18! Korda can two-putt to gold!
EDIT - Missed birdie by inches!
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Posted: 08/07/21 3:29 am ::: |
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Iluvacc wrote: |
Silky Johnson wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Allyson Felix snags her 10th medal! |
Is she going to run in the relay? |
I certainly hope so! The real question is who else will be on the team?
Hayes
Mu
Muhammad
McLaughlin
Any of those four along with Felix can win the gold. |
Delilah to Allyson to Athing to Sydney |
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Posted: 08/07/21 7:59 am ::: |
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Felix gets #11 in the relay!
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Posted: 08/07/21 8:12 am ::: |
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US takes Silver in baseball, making Eddy Alvarez just the sixth athlete (third American) to medal in both the summer and winter games. He won a speed skating silver medal in the 2014 games.
Only Eddie Eagan won gold at both, boxing in 1920 then bobsled in 1932
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Posted: 08/07/21 8:38 am ::: |
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Can we at least spell Dalilah Muhammad's name correctly?
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Posted: 08/07/21 6:13 pm ::: |
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Halfway through the marathon Galen Rupp is hanging at the back of the lead group. None of the Chinese runners are close. I still expect one of the Kenyans to win.
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Posted: 08/07/21 6:40 pm ::: |
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Rupp has faded. Eliud Kipchoge has opened a substantial lead with 6 miles to go.
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