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PG4ever
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Posted: 04/02/21 2:57 pm ::: Geno says move the women's 3 point line back. |
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Just read an ESPN article where Geno was quoted as saying, "I was so disappointed when they kept the line the way it is. Like, two lines on the floor [on college courts]. Please. Like another indication that, what, we're not capable?"
Who knows if Geno is serious but for the sake of argument, if he is, do you agree or disagree and why?
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Shades
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Posted: 04/02/21 4:41 pm ::: |
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Geno seems to be changing his tune. Years ago he was in favor of lowering the rims for women, but maybe that opinion was for the WNBA.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 04/02/21 5:03 pm ::: |
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Yes, Geno has advocated lowering the rims, primarily because he has pointed out many times that women blow so many layups compared to men, mainly because women are, on average, shorter than men and less athletically able to get close to the rim.
Perhaps he believes that, unlike for layups, women are close to men in outside shooting ability. |
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PlayBally'all
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Posted: 04/03/21 3:35 pm ::: |
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Scoring is exciting. Nothing whatsoever should be done to make the women's game less exciting.
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Posted: 04/03/21 4:14 pm ::: |
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Geno always says something like that to kick off the F4. It's an attempt to take the pressure off his players by getting the media to focus on something else.
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Durantula
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Posted: 04/03/21 7:18 pm ::: |
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They should do it just because kids line up behind the 2nd line often anyways. Having two lines so close to each other is pointless
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 04/03/21 8:23 pm ::: |
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Maybe Geno should look at improving his own team's percentage before worrying about moving it back.
According to ESPN stats, UConn shot 35.1% in 2020-2021.
That would put them in a five-way tie for 115th place on the men's ranking.
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taropatch
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Posted: 04/04/21 11:29 am ::: |
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While we're at it, redoing the women's arc, let's use the men's ball too. What's an extra inch in circumference?
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Posted: 04/04/21 4:19 pm ::: |
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taropatch wrote: |
While we're at it, redoing the women's arc, let's use the men's ball too. What's an extra inch in circumference? |
The equipment companies will never let that happen. This way, every school needs two full sets of basketballs.
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huskiemaniac
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Posted: 04/04/21 5:09 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
taropatch wrote: |
While we're at it, redoing the women's arc, let's use the men's ball too. What's an extra inch in circumference? |
The equipment companies will never let that happen. This way, every school needs two full sets of basketballs. |
Excellent point.
I. too, wish the men's ball was used.
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Posted: 04/04/21 5:27 pm ::: |
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huskiemaniac wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
taropatch wrote: |
While we're at it, redoing the women's arc, let's use the men's ball too. What's an extra inch in circumference? |
The equipment companies will never let that happen. This way, every school needs two full sets of basketballs. |
Excellent point.
I. too, wish the men's ball was used. |
I am not in favor of switching balls. It's not just that the men's is wider--it's also 1.5 ounces heavier or something. That may not sound like a lot, but it makes a huge difference. I couldn't imagine being a high college- or pro-athlete having trained your muscle memory to shoot with that certain weight your entire life to have the ball immediately switched. If that happened I guarantee shooting percentages -- especially mid- and long-range -- would go way down for a few seasons. Yes, players would adjust eventually. But I don't see how to avoid that transition period.
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pilight
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Posted: 04/04/21 7:14 pm ::: |
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undersized_post wrote: |
huskiemaniac wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
taropatch wrote: |
While we're at it, redoing the women's arc, let's use the men's ball too. What's an extra inch in circumference? |
The equipment companies will never let that happen. This way, every school needs two full sets of basketballs. |
Excellent point.
I. too, wish the men's ball was used. |
I am not in favor of switching balls. It's not just that the men's is wider--it's also 1.5 ounces heavier or something. That may not sound like a lot, but it makes a huge difference. I couldn't imagine being a high college- or pro-athlete having trained your muscle memory to shoot with that certain weight your entire life to have the ball immediately switched. If that happened I guarantee shooting percentages -- especially mid- and long-range -- would go way down for a few seasons. Yes, players would adjust eventually. But I don't see how to avoid that transition period. |
When they switched to the smaller ball there was virtually no change in shooting percentages
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calbearman76
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Posted: 04/04/21 9:11 pm ::: |
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Short of moving the line back I would like the rule to be changed that you have to be behind the line both when you shoot and when you land.
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undersized_post
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Posted: 04/04/21 9:37 pm ::: |
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calbearman76 wrote: |
Short of moving the line back I would like the rule to be changed that you have to be behind the line both when you shoot and when you land. |
Hmm, I don't see the point of this. Seems like it would discourage good jump-shooting form. Also, at no other point in live game action does where you land matter. Can you say more?
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 04/04/21 9:54 pm ::: |
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Ex-Ref wrote: |
ucbart wrote: |
huskiemaniac wrote: |
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Maybe Geno should look at improving his own team's percentage before worrying about moving it back.
According to ESPN stats, UConn shot 35.1% in 2020-2021.
That would put them in a five-way tie for 115th place on the men's ranking. |
:lol: :lol: :lol:
It never ends.
What would happen if the line was moved back? Defenses would have to defend farther away from the hoop. Then what would happen? There'd be more room for the midrange game to operate.
That would be a good thing for WCB. |
If ANY other coach had said this, this board would probably largely agree. It is what it is at this point. I think the line needs to be moved back, too. There is zero reason that it needs to be different. |
So if they can't do better than 35% where it is now, who's going to step out and guard them farther away from the basket where the percentage would most likely go down?
From ESPN stats:
Last year (2019/2021) they were #1 in the nation at 40% (281/705 in 32 games). They made 8.8 per game.
This year (2020-2021) they are #42 in the nation at 35.1% (188/536 in 28 games). They made 6.7 per game.
Let's move it back another foot and a quarter and see what their percentages are. |
I don't understand the relevance of these two years of statistics. A coach, like any thoughtful person in the world, can have a principled opinion on some subject even if the opinion doesn't benefit him or her personally.
However, if one wants to scrape around for personal motives, consider that launching 3's for UConn the next three seasons will be 47% Paige Bueckers and two of the very top high school arc shooters, Azzi Fudd and Caroline Ducharme. |
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Posted: 04/04/21 11:26 pm ::: |
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undersized_post wrote: |
calbearman76 wrote: |
Short of moving the line back I would like the rule to be changed that you have to be behind the line both when you shoot and when you land. |
Hmm, I don't see the point of this. Seems like it would discourage good jump-shooting form. Also, at no other point in live game action does where you land matter. Can you say more? |
Very much so. And it would make officiating the 3-point line virtually impossible.
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