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NoDakSt
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 Posted: 02/27/21 7:47 pm ::: Extra year of Eligibility |
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Was going to start a tracking thread for players taking an extra year of availability but Raoul is already all over that.
https://wbbblog.com/womens-basketball-extra-eligibility-players-returning-to-current-school-in-2021-22
Regarding SoDakSt, Irwin is the only senior on the team (they do have a transfer grad student on the team) and is the second leading scorer and leading 3pt ace for the Jacks.
For NoDakSt, Dietz is the second leading scorer and leading rebounder for the Bison.
Regarding SoDakSt, Irwin is the only senior on the team
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SDHoops
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| Posted: 02/27/21 9:52 pm ::: Re: Extra year of Eligibility |
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Was going to start a tracking thread for players taking an extra year of availability but Raoul is already all over that.
https://wbbblog.com/womens-basketball-extra-eligibility-players-returning-to-current-school-in-2021-22
Regarding SoDakSt, Irwin is the only senior on the team (they do have a transfer grad student on the team) and is the second leading scorer and leading 3pt ace for the Jacks.
For NoDakSt, Dietz is the second leading scorer and leading rebounder for the Bison.
Regarding SoDakSt, Irwin is the only senior on the team |
HM mentioned that Hannah Sjerven's final year will be next year at USD. I think this is good because she essentially lost a year as a true freshman in the cesspool that was (still is?) New Mexico.
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myrtle
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| Posted: 02/28/21 12:00 am ::: |
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So do underclassmen also get the extra year?
I think so since for instance Van Oelhoefen started playing for OrSU mid season instead of staying in HS. But will she be considered a Freshman next year? It's going to make for confusion for a few years to come.
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SDHoops
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| Posted: 02/28/21 3:24 am ::: |
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So do underclassmen also get the extra year?
I think so since for instance Van Oelhoefen started playing for OrSU mid season instead of staying in HS. But will she be considered a Freshman next year? It's going to make for confusion for a few years to come. |
If I read it correctly, this year will not count against anyone.
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mzonefan
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| Posted: 02/28/21 11:25 am ::: |
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| myrtle wrote: |
So do underclassmen also get the extra year?
I think so since for instance Van Oelhoefen started playing for OrSU mid season instead of staying in HS. But will she be considered a Freshman next year? It's going to make for confusion for a few years to come. |
If I read it correctly, this year will not count against anyone. |
Correct, which can have recruiting/scholarship implications for many years as the numbers get worked out.
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| Posted: 02/28/21 12:26 pm ::: |
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| So anyone who transfers will also get another year? JMU's Eleanore Marciszewski is in the transfer portal. She is a junior this year and if I'm reading this would grant her two years of eligibility. She'll likely go somewhere nearer her home in Ste-Julie, Quebec...OTOH, she may just go back to Canada.
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myrtle
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| Posted: 02/28/21 10:04 pm ::: |
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| Stanford had senior night, and it didn't sound like any of those three - Williams, Wilson, Jerome - would be back.
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bucks4now
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| Posted: 03/01/21 10:06 am ::: |
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| Braxtin Miller for Ohio State has said that she is coming back.
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| Posted: 03/01/21 10:32 am ::: |
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| Braxtin Miller for Ohio State has said that she is coming back. |
Makes sense for her since OSU has so much talent rn but unfortunately are banned from post season.
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summertime blues
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| Posted: 03/01/21 12:47 pm ::: |
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| I see per Raoul that Keyen Green, who grad-transferred from Liberty to Tennessee and then had a season-ending ACL early, is planning on coming back for another year. She was not honored on Senior Day so I guess that must be true.
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| Posted: 03/02/21 12:04 am ::: |
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| Apparently it was stated on previous broadcasts, but it was confirmed tonight that Qadashah Hoppie is returning next year to St. John's.
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| Posted: 03/04/21 6:32 pm ::: |
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It was a bad ruling, imo, and looks especially bad given that the season has played out.
they should revoke it immediately, imo.
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Hoopsmom
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| Posted: 03/04/21 11:08 pm ::: |
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It was a bad ruling, imo, and looks especially bad given that the season has played out.
they should revoke it immediately, imo. |
Although the season did “play out”, as you put it, in no way was it optimal or even close to normal for the players. Players had to work out last summer without the benefit of coaches, trainers, or even facilities in some cases. They were playing at outdoor courts in the neighborhood park. Because of the lack of strength training, there were injuries incurred that may not have happened in a normal year. Many teams had to go without practice players, making it much harder to prepare for games. Practice was especially hard to run if they had athletes in contact quarantine. Several teams did not play at all, and others stopped partway through the season. Several teams did not get any home games. Quite a few teams never got any fans. Teams had far fewer than normal the amount of games, and had to do them under weird schedules. Sometimes, games were canceled due to testing results. Often there were false positives that canceled games.
Players that are choosing to stay have been given the opportunity to get or finish another degree, which will help them with their future. Remember, very, very few women players make it to the pros. This extra year of free schooling can only be seen as a good thing.
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| Posted: 03/04/21 11:32 pm ::: |
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It was a bad ruling, imo, and looks especially bad given that the season has played out.
they should revoke it immediately, imo. |
Let's not discourage the NCAA from making decisions that benefit student-athletes.
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PickledGinger
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| Posted: 03/05/21 4:48 am ::: |
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| huskiemaniac wrote: |
It was a bad ruling, imo, and looks especially bad given that the season has played out.
they should revoke it immediately, imo. |
Let's not discourage the NCAA from making decisions that benefit student-athletes. |
Yeah... that take comes of as a bit callous. I think we all deserve as much of a do-over on this last year as we can get. Maybe elaborate on why you are against it?
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| Posted: 03/05/21 1:23 pm ::: |
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| Queenie wrote: |
| huskiemaniac wrote: |
It was a bad ruling, imo, and looks especially bad given that the season has played out.
they should revoke it immediately, imo. |
Let's not discourage the NCAA from making decisions that benefit student-athletes. |
Yeah... that take comes of as a bit callous. I think we all deserve as much of a do-over on this last year as we can get. Maybe elaborate on why you are against it? |
It would be really bad to change it at this late date. Like selling someone a box of chocolates and after you take their money yank the box out of their hands. Actually worse than that... Lots of kids already made important life decisions based on that ruling including a bunch who joined their teams midseason because they know they will get that extra year.
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huskiemaniac
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| Posted: 03/05/21 2:48 pm ::: |
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A kneejerk ruling, made too soon, with no flexibility.
The "student-athletes" who were actually robbed- the class of 2020- are the ones who deserve the extra year of eligibility, not those who play a regular season as well as conference and national tournaments.
Sheesh.
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| Posted: 03/05/21 11:10 pm ::: |
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| huskiemaniac wrote: |
A kneejerk ruling, made too soon, with no flexibility.
The "student-athletes" who were actually robbed- the class of 2020- are the ones who deserve the extra year of eligibility, not those who play a regular season as well as conference and national tournaments.
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At the time there was a real possibility that the season could end early, like the previous year. The NCAA, worried that 50% or more of D1 players would opt out given the risks and the state of the pandemic late in the summer and decided to give players who opted to play a free year as an incentive to play in what ended up as basketball in confinement.
I agree that it will cause confusion in some programs but I understand that teams will be able to carry over 15 scholarships next year for that reason
And it should create some interesting transfers. Doesn't Arkansas need an entire new starting lineup?
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PickledGinger
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| Posted: 03/06/21 4:28 am ::: |
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There are a lot of technical remifications of this decision but I don't really see how any of them are particularly negative for any party. Students are still playing to be educated. Even though some teams got a relatively full season, it was by no means accross the board and shouldin some ways be a wash.
And for the point of the 2020 season, yes, that ending was absolutely tragic and those seniors can never get those opportunities back. But they did get to play 30-ish games in front of actual fans, so I don't buy the notion that they experienced such a greater degree of hardship than this season's players to make the decision somehow unfair of irrational.
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