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WNBA 09
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:13 pm ::: |
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Buekers/Clark
Ogunbowale/Ionescu/Carter
Collier/Deshields
Stewart/Wilson/(MHA or R. Howard or S. Austin or N. Smith? try to make things right with N. Ogwumike?)
Griner/Boston
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:14 pm ::: |
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SCook wrote: |
Tina & Lisa were more engaged than Dawn the entire game.
I just.... None of the guards for Team USA had anything to offer? None? Arike was shimming in their faces and pointing at them and no one had another gear to either stop her or make sure they went off.
DT may be an oldie but when it's time to go, it's time to go. |
It’s why complaining about Bird and Taurasi was always silly to me. They’re the best guards on the team.
Part of the problem is that after those two..the elite WNBA players have been forwards. That’s starting to change now, and our team will reflect that in the future..but this team is gonna have weaker guards. |
I feel your looking through a one sided telescope .. best offensive minded guards yes!! Everything else hmmmm…..sounds like we’re praying to outscore the field hopefully?
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:21 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
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Buekers/Clark
Ogunbowale/Ionescu/Carter
Collier/Deshields
Stewart/Wilson/(MHA or R. Howard or S. Austin or N. Smith? try to make things right with N. Ogwumike?)
Griner/Boston |
That overhaul does not seem dominate without Rhyne Howard instead of Ionescu or Carter along with EDD likely being around to play still instead of Nneka who’s now classified Nigerian for good right?
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:36 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
24
Buekers/Clark
Ogunbowale/Ionescu/Carter
Collier/Deshields
Stewart/Wilson/(MHA or R. Howard or S. Austin or N. Smith? try to make things right with N. Ogwumike?)
Griner/Boston |
That overhaul does not seem dominate without Rhyne Howard instead of Ionescu or Carter along with EDD likely being around to play still instead of Nneka who’s now classified Nigerian for good right? |
No, FIBA ruled today that Nneka can't be Nigerian. She's thinking of taking FIBA to court at the CAS in Switzerland.
Will Big Syl go for #5 in 2024 at age 38 under the Bird/Taurasi precedent? |
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:43 pm ::: |
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Taking a 38 yr old post in Fowles. Please no.
This ppl need to get younger
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:47 pm ::: |
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I may sound like a homer but arike should be ahead of Lloyd & Atkins on Team USA’s depth chart possibly even DT at this point .
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 07/14/21 11:51 pm ::: |
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In a weird defense of Team USA
Arike Ogunbowale scores like this almost every game. She is an elite scorer. And she does it in Dallas as the clear #1 option so teams are game planning for her. So if you put her on this team with Sabally and Bonner on the wing, Sloot passing her the ball and J. Jones and Parker upfront instead of C. Collier, Alarie and Harrison of course she can destroy you. C. Williams did the same thing to a lesser extent. All-Star games even ones with slightly higher stakes are much easier for the great one on one players to be successful than to show team defense.
She should have been put on Team USA instead of Atkins is a conversation fro another time but Ironically Atkins probably made the team over Arike because they wanted a better defender (I am sure the committee considered Ogunbowale but decided that scoring was less important on this squad than adding perimeter defense). (I had Arike and Diamond as the next in over Atkins on the perimeter anyway, Ogunbowale was the best guard on the court tonight).
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Posted: 07/15/21 12:05 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
24
Buekers/Clark
Ogunbowale/Ionescu/Carter
Collier/Deshields
Stewart/Wilson/(MHA or R. Howard or S. Austin or N. Smith? try to make things right with N. Ogwumike?)
Griner/Boston |
That overhaul does not seem dominate without Rhyne Howard instead of Ionescu or Carter along with EDD likely being around to play still instead of Nneka who’s now classified Nigerian for good right? |
I am mostly just having fun with this
I actually could see the Nneka storyline happening, I do not see Fowles hanging around, EDD is an interesting thought 3 years is plenty of time to get back in shape and return to some level of elite play but I wouldn't count on it (I would count on her returning to elite play, I wouldn't count on her wanting to staying healthy and participating with Team USA for 3 more years to be available for they Olympics in 24. This is not meant as a slight or an attack on EDD just seems possible that it isn't in the cards for her). IMO if they are healthy Ionescu and Carter will both be all-stars and top w talent in the next couple of seasons people writing of Ionescu because of her injury problem or Carter because of her attitude issues are jumping the gun a year or two they will both be consider two of the best in the game IMO. There W and over-seas experience might even keep them ahead of Buekers and Clark in the pecking order who will either be coming of their senior year or rookie year if I am counting right.
I think there could be one or even two or three post positions up for grabs, I can't see Team USA passing on Boston who get the other spot or two who knows R. Howard will definitely be in the mix.
I actually think the talent level coming into the team is very high, it just might not be as iconic as what we've seen the last couple of decades.
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Posted: 07/15/21 1:20 am ::: |
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Super enjoyable game, love seeing everyone having fun. Really liked the looseness and competitiveness the WNBA team played with.
Can anyone tell me who the woman was they cut to twice before and after announcing Ogunbowale's MVP? The second shot I think it was Ionescu sitting next to her. It was a comically unenthusiastic reaction shot both times.
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Posted: 07/15/21 1:52 am ::: |
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Mixolydian wrote: |
Super enjoyable game, love seeing everyone having fun. Really liked the looseness and competitiveness the WNBA team played with.
Can anyone tell me who the woman was they cut to twice before and after announcing Ogunbowale's MVP? The second shot I think it was Ionescu sitting next to her. It was a comically unenthusiastic reaction shot both times. |
Vanessa Bryant, widow of Kobe Bryant.
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Posted: 07/15/21 2:42 am ::: |
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Ah, gotcha, thanks. That makes sense and it's nice they gave her a shoutout.
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SCook
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Posted: 07/15/21 9:43 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
I may sound like a homer but arike should be ahead of Lloyd & Atkins on Team USA’s depth chart possibly even DT at this point . |
By what criteria?
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Posted: 07/15/21 9:44 am ::: |
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It’s too bad Paige, Azzi, and Clark weren’t ready for the Olympic round though…I’d rather them learning the ropes from Taurasi/Bird instead of Gray/Diggins. |
Does this mean that if they were ready, you would have been happy with letting them jump the line? |
I think they are ready to play now. Like..skill and play wise..I’d at least take Clark and Bueckers over Gray and Diggins..
But I literally meant it’s not their turn.
There are guards I wish Team USA took (again, interesting that no one whines about Fowles..) but the truth is, they did a poor job of finding consistent younger guards for Bird and Taurasi to mentor. (Again..they were handicapped because after the 2004 class, the elite players have been forwards not guards)
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Posted: 07/15/21 9:56 am ::: |
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Based on the 2016 team, who would've predicted that Whalen and Seimone would be retired? Maya would be on hiatus (are we considering her retired?). Angel & EDD would be injured? This isn't even talked about to be honest.
In honesty, I believe that Sue and DT would've likely been transitioned out had some of those players stayed but of course that didn't happen. So you take the players with the most Olympic experience.
Yeah, I know possibly any group can go an win the gold medal.
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Posted: 07/15/21 10:34 am ::: |
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mercfan3 wrote: |
It’s too bad Paige, Azzi, and Clark weren’t ready for the Olympic round though…I’d rather them learning the ropes from Taurasi/Bird instead of Gray/Diggins. |
Does this mean that if they were ready, you would have been happy with letting them jump the line? |
I think they are ready to play now. Like..skill and play wise..I’d at least take Clark and Bueckers over Gray and Diggins..
But I literally meant it’s not their turn.
There are guards I wish Team USA took (again, interesting that no one whines about Fowles..) but the truth is, they did a poor job of finding consistent younger guards for Bird and Taurasi to mentor. (Again..they were handicapped because after the 2004 class, the elite players have been forwards not guards) |
People are complaining about Syl but not as much. Someone told me the National team should go position less and I asked myself If the rest of the world plays that way. Which to my knowledge is not the case.
But Syl is 1 of the best centers in this league. Who else are you going to take at the 5 outside of her and BG?
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Posted: 07/15/21 10:38 am ::: |
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mercfan3 wrote: |
I think they are ready to play now. Like..skill and play wise..I’d at least take Clark and Bueckers over Gray and Diggins.. |
You're telling me that, after seeing Clark and Bueckers play one season, against other college girls, that was enough to convince you that they are better, right now, than two proven professionals, who have been doing it against the best in the world, for years?
That's... a take.
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Posted: 07/15/21 10:40 am ::: |
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SCook wrote: |
Based on the 2016 team, who would've predicted that Whalen and Seimone would be retired? Maya would be on hiatus (are we considering her retired?). Angel & EDD would be injured? This isn't even talked about to be honest.
In honesty, I believe that Sue and DT would've likely been transitioned out had some of those players stayed but of course that didn't happen. So you take the players with the most Olympic experience.
Yeah, I know possibly any group can go an win the gold medal. |
They absolutely would not have. USA Basketball said explicitly that the two of them were on the team as long as they want to be. I'm not convinced we won't see one of them in three years.
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Posted: 07/15/21 10:40 am ::: |
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SCook wrote: |
mercfan3 wrote: |
Silky Johnson wrote: |
mercfan3 wrote: |
It’s too bad Paige, Azzi, and Clark weren’t ready for the Olympic round though…I’d rather them learning the ropes from Taurasi/Bird instead of Gray/Diggins. |
Does this mean that if they were ready, you would have been happy with letting them jump the line? |
I think they are ready to play now. Like..skill and play wise..I’d at least take Clark and Bueckers over Gray and Diggins..
But I literally meant it’s not their turn.
There are guards I wish Team USA took (again, interesting that no one whines about Fowles..) but the truth is, they did a poor job of finding consistent younger guards for Bird and Taurasi to mentor. (Again..they were handicapped because after the 2004 class, the elite players have been forwards not guards) |
People are complaining about Syl but not as much. Someone told me the National team should go position less and I asked myself If the rest of the world plays that way. Which to my knowledge is not the case.
But Syl is 1 of the best centers in this league. Who else are you going to take at the 5 outside of her and BG? |
Should have snagged Jonquel before she became Boznian she would have been the replacement id want !!!
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Posted: 07/15/21 10:41 am ::: |
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Silky Johnson wrote: |
mercfan3 wrote: |
I think they are ready to play now. Like..skill and play wise..I’d at least take Clark and Bueckers over Gray and Diggins.. |
You're telling me that, after seeing Clark and Bueckers play one season, against other college girls, that was enough to convince you that they are better, right now, than two proven professionals, who have been doing it against the best in the world, for years?
That's... a take. |
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I wouldn't Take neither over any of the current roster lol. College game and the WNBA are not the same. Im sure they will be there in the future , but not right now .
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