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First of all, what’s a good story without an evil empire or a villain to hate.
Second, I really see it as a lack of creativity/effort on the part of ESPN. I’ve been following WCBB since 2010, and each year it’s like they have staff meeting where they pick ONE narrative for the entire season and they just run with it until it can’t run no more.
2010-UConn: back to back champions/winning streak.
2011-UConn: three peat possibility/ breaking UCLA’s winning streak.
2012-Baylor: first team with the chance to go 40-0.
2013- “Three to See” campaign with Diggins, Griner, and EDD.
2014-16-UConn: can anyone beat them?
2017- SC: A’Ja Wilson is really, really good.
2018-ND: Arike and cast are very good, look at their Princeton offense with a high post passer.
2019-ND: Can they repeat? Look at the buzzer beaters made by Arike last year.
2020-Oregon: How many triple doubles can Santina get?
This year, it’s all about Paige. And, as we move forward, it will probably turn into “Bueckers vs. Clark”. |
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| Posted: 03/23/21 2:55 am ::: |
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First of all, what’s a good story without an evil empire or a villain to hate.
Second, I really see it as a lack of creativity/effort on the part of ESPN. I’ve been following WCBB since 2010, and each year it’s like they have staff meeting where they pick ONE narrative for the entire season and they just run with it until it can’t run no more.
2010-UConn: back to back champions/winning streak.
2011-UConn: three peat possibility/ breaking UCLA’s winning streak.
2012-Baylor: first team with the chance to go 40-0.
2013- “Three to See” campaign with Diggins, Griner, and EDD.
2014-16-UConn: can anyone beat them?
2017- SC: A’Ja Wilson is really, really good.
2018-ND: Arike and cast are very good, look at their Princeton offense with a high post passer.
2019-ND: Can they repeat? Look at the buzzer beaters made by Arike last year.
2020-Oregon: How many triple doubles can Santina get?
This year, it’s all about Paige. And, as we move forward, it will probably turn into “Bueckers vs. Clark”. |
Yes. So much thank you for this. Maybe my irritability about this situation is the maddening effect of slowly over the last year realizing that the scope of women's college basktball for the next three long years is going to be reduced by the media with that "Bueckers vs. Clark" narrative. It's not fair to the game. It's not a representation of the actual landscape of women's ball. If ESPN spread the wealth a little bit more it would pay off for them in the long run because it would spread out the fan base.
I don't dislike the UConn program. As a Seattle Storm fan I absolutely respect that program. But I am also aware of the advantages it has, that I believe are due to it's closeness to ESPN headquarters. That's it. It's not personal. ESPN has every right as a capitalist organization to make every dollar they can. Do I respect that, no. But it's their right under the law.
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| Posted: 03/23/21 3:49 am ::: |
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Never a thread to bitch about the mind-numbing coverage of any NON-UConn player. I wonder why.
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This is the most entitled statement I have ever read on this board, and the exact point of this thread. There are 64 teams in this tournament. Why do UConn fans get so fucking salty when any other team gets a bone? As much hype as she got, Sabrina Ionescu was a relatively brief respute from the deluge of UConn-forward messaging from ESPN.
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| Posted: 03/23/21 11:06 am ::: |
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| I did get a kick out of ESPN continuing to show AAC games this year. I assume they had a longer term contract and had to do it. And I suspect when the contract runs out, there will no longer be exciting Cincinnati v Temple women's games on the ESPN family of channels...
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This reminds me of when my grandfather used to complain about golf broadcasts focusing on Tiger Woods.
ESPN is trying to build ratings with Dawn and South Carolina - but they have them already with Uconn. So they're biting at the low hanging fruit.
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This reminds me of when my grandfather used to complain about golf broadcasts focusing on Tiger Woods.
ESPN is trying to build ratings with Dawn and South Carolina - but they have them already with UCONN. So they're biting at the low hanging fruit. |
Agree, and I know some may disagree, as they have in this thread, but ESPN didn't bother with us or Paige all season, really. At the beginning/middle of the season it was 3 things:
Dawn/Alliyah Boston/South Carolina
Rhyne Howard
Dana Evans
It wasn't till the season was coming to a close and the tourney was coming up that they shifted their focus to UCONN/Paige, because, well, we bring in good ratings and ESPN could capitalize on that marketing because they own the rights to the tournament.
I have a masters degree in teaching. When I was student teaching I taught a lesson where I was observed by my mentor. I thought the lesson was great.....until I sat down for the evaluation. He told me I did a good job, but I kept calling on Tom because I knew Tom would know the answer. He called it...."going back to the well." I learned that by always calling on Tom, it wouldn't make anyone else better because I would never know what some kids didn't understand.
This is the same library, different genre of book, IMO. ESPN, when given the chance, goes back to the ratings well. UCONN winning is a great story for allllllll the UCONN fans, but building them up and watching them fall is an even better one. I mean, look how much coverage Morgan William still gets because of that shot.
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| Posted: 03/23/21 1:51 pm ::: |
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| mercfan3 wrote: |
This reminds me of when my grandfather used to complain about golf broadcasts focusing on Tiger Woods.
ESPN is trying to build ratings with Dawn and South Carolina - but they have them already with UCONN. So they're biting at the low hanging fruit. |
Agree, and I know some may disagree, as they have in this thread, but ESPN didn't bother with us or Paige all season, really. At the beginning/middle of the season it was 3 things:
Dawn/Alliyah Boston/South Carolina
Rhyne Howard
Dana Evans
It wasn't till the season was coming to a close and the tourney was coming up that they shifted their focus to UCONN/Paige, because, well, we bring in good ratings and ESPN could capitalize on that marketing because they own the rights to the tournament.
I have a masters degree in teaching. When I was student teaching I taught a lesson where I was observed by my mentor. I thought the lesson was great.....until I sat down for the evaluation. He told me I did a good job, but I kept calling on Tom because I knew Tom would know the answer. He called it...."going back to the well." I learned that by always calling on Tom, it wouldn't make anyone else better because I would never know what some kids didn't understand.
This is the same library, different genre of book, IMO. ESPN, when given the chance, goes back to the ratings well. UCONN winning is a great story for allllllll the UCONN fans, but building them up and watching them fall is an even better one. I mean, look how much coverage Morgan William still gets because of that shot. |
ESPN didn't obsess over Paige Bueckers throughout the season because Big East games were not on ESPN (they were on FLO sports and Fox). The only UConn games on ESPN were at Arkansas and Tennessee because the home team controls the broadcast. But now that it is tournament time we will hear about UConn more than any other team.
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| Posted: 03/23/21 1:51 pm ::: |
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| mercfan3 wrote: |
This reminds me of when my grandfather used to complain about golf broadcasts focusing on Tiger Woods.
ESPN is trying to build ratings with Dawn and South Carolina - but they have them already with UCONN. So they're biting at the low hanging fruit. |
Agree, and I know some may disagree, as they have in this thread, but ESPN didn't bother with us or Paige all season, really. At the beginning/middle of the season it was 3 things:
Dawn/Alliyah Boston/South Carolina
Rhyne Howard
Dana Evans
It wasn't till the season was coming to a close and the tourney was coming up that they shifted their focus to UCONN/Paige, because, well, we bring in good ratings and ESPN could capitalize on that marketing because they own the rights to the tournament.
I have a masters degree in teaching. When I was student teaching I taught a lesson where I was observed by my mentor. I thought the lesson was great.....until I sat down for the evaluation. He told me I did a good job, but I kept calling on Tom because I knew Tom would know the answer. He called it...."going back to the well." I learned that by always calling on Tom, it wouldn't make anyone else better because I would never know what some kids didn't understand.
This is the same library, different genre of book, IMO. ESPN, when given the chance, goes back to the ratings well. UCONN winning is a great story for allllllll the UCONN fans, but building them up and watching them fall is an even better one. I mean, look how much coverage Morgan William still gets because of that shot. |
ESPN didn't obsess over Paige Bueckers throughout the season because Big East games were not on ESPN (they were on FLO sports and Fox). The only UConn games on ESPN were at Arkansas and Tennessee because the home team controls the broadcast. But now that it is tournament time we will hear about UConn more than any other team.
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| Posted: 03/23/21 4:14 pm ::: |
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| Tally24 wrote: |
First of all, what’s a good story without an evil empire or a villain to hate.
Second, I really see it as a lack of creativity/effort on the part of ESPN. I’ve been following WCBB since 2010, and each year it’s like they have staff meeting where they pick ONE narrative for the entire season and they just run with it until it can’t run no more.
2010-UConn: back to back champions/winning streak.
2011-UConn: three peat possibility/ breaking UCLA’s winning streak.
2012-Baylor: first team with the chance to go 40-0.
2013- “Three to See” campaign with Diggins, Griner, and EDD.
2014-16-UConn: can anyone beat them?
2017- SC: A’Ja Wilson is really, really good.
2018-ND: Arike and cast are very good, look at their Princeton offense with a high post passer.
2019-ND: Can they repeat? Look at the buzzer beaters made by Arike last year.
2020-Oregon: How many triple doubles can Santina get?
This year, it’s all about Paige. And, as we move forward, it will probably turn into “Bueckers vs. Clark”. |
Yes. So much thank you for this. Maybe my irritability about this situation is the maddening effect of slowly over the last year realizing that the scope of women's college basktball for the next three long years is going to be reduced by the media with that "Bueckers vs. Clark" narrative. It's not fair to the game. It's not a representation of the actual landscape of women's ball. If ESPN spread the wealth a little bit more it would pay off for them in the long run because it would spread out the fan base.
I don't dislike the UConn program. As a Seattle Storm fan I absolutely respect that program. But I am also aware of the advantages it has, that I believe are due to it's closeness to ESPN headquarters. That's it. It's not personal. ESPN has every right as a capitalist organization to make every dollar they can. Do I respect that, no. But it's their right under the law.
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I don't suppose the UConn streak of consecutive titles or final fours or anything like that might inform the ESPN coverage? Just askin'.
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| When was the statue unveiled? |
Summitt's statue on the Tennessee campus was unveiled in 2013
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| Posted: 03/25/21 5:04 pm ::: |
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Never a thread to bitch about the mind-numbing coverage of any NON-UConn player. I wonder why.
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This is the most entitled statement I have ever read on this board, and the exact point of this thread. There are 64 teams in this tournament. Why do UConn fans get so fucking salty when any other team gets a bone? As much hype as she got, Sabrina Ionescu was a relatively brief respute from the deluge of UConn-forward messaging from ESPN. |
I guess you started reading last week, then?
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Ok. Than explain it to me like I'm 3. Because, under the context of the situation, and the wording that you have presented your arguement with, your narrative comes off as "coverage of any non-UConn player angers me". |
Are you projecting?
I don't like the ESPN "star"-driven, hyper-hype-to-ad-nauseum promotion machine, whether it spotlights UConn OR non-UConn players. You really think I want to see Bueckers sitting on the bench sucking her water bottle via split screen? Or that I want to hear about Iowa-UConn in the middle of some unrelated game? If you do, you don't know me. I catch shit from UConn fans because I'm not on the "Bueckers is Better!" tribal bandwagon.
Whether it's Stewie, or Maya, OR Candace, OR Sabrina, OR Skylar...it's equally vomit-worthy to me. Let me add in Geno, Pat and Kay, while I'm at it.
That's why I wonder- how come it's only espn's relentless hyping of UConn that warrants such a thread? Do you actually enjoy that shit, but in a different flavor
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And the fact that Nika Muhl's sprained ankle tomorrow will be a "gametime decision."
you and PG can go scissor somewhere and get your antiUConn kicks out
