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Who should win Rookie of the Year? |
Charli Collier |
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Michaela Onyenwere |
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someone else |
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pilight
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Posted: 05/17/21 7:33 am ::: ROY |
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Monday Poll time!
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 05/17/21 9:20 am ::: |
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What kind of dance will Michaela's grandma do if she were to win the ROY award?đ
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Posted: 05/17/21 12:15 pm ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
What kind of dance will Michaela's grandma do if she were to win the ROY award?đ |
Someone please make sure that if she does, we have a video of the moment LOL đ¤đ¤ I love to see it!
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pilight
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Posted: 05/17/21 12:17 pm ::: |
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Will Onyenwere keep getting the same minutes now that Allen is back? |
Allen was back for the last game without affecting Onyenwere's minutes.
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Posted: 05/17/21 12:32 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Will Onyenwere keep getting the same minutes now that Allen is back? |
Allen was back for the last game without affecting Onyenwere's minutes. |
She only played 3 min less, but will it stay that way is the question. Once Allen gets her bearings, she should probably be the starter. Hard to gauge too much at this point.
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root_thing
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Posted: 05/17/21 12:38 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Will Onyenwere keep getting the same minutes now that Allen is back? |
Allen was back for the last game without affecting Onyenwere's minutes. |
She only played 3 min less, but will it stay that way is the question. Once Allen gets her bearings, she should probably be the starter. Hard to gauge too much at this point. |
Hopkins said that minutes will be difficult to decide for a lot of players. He said it would be based on match-ups and who has the hot hand.
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Posted: 05/17/21 1:04 pm ::: |
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root_thing wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Will Onyenwere keep getting the same minutes now that Allen is back? |
Allen was back for the last game without affecting Onyenwere's minutes. |
She only played 3 min less, but will it stay that way is the question. Once Allen gets her bearings, she should probably be the starter. Hard to gauge too much at this point. |
Hopkins said that minutes will be difficult to decide for a lot of players. He said it would be based on match-ups and who has the hot hand. |
Thus far, that has definitely been Onyenwere. Her ability to make 3PT shots has surprised me quite a bit, and if she continues to make whatever shots she takes (still a very big "if" imo), I'm guessing Hop just leaves her in that starting lineup, even if Allen starts to come on strong off the bench.
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pilight
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Posted: 05/17/21 1:28 pm ::: |
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Once Allen gets her bearings, she should probably be the starter |
Why? Allen has played four seasons and change for New York and never shown herself to be starting quality.
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Shades
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Posted: 05/17/21 1:36 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Once Allen gets her bearings, she should probably be the starter |
Why? Allen has played four seasons and change for New York and never shown herself to be starting quality. |
That was the gameplan coming into this season.
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Posted: 05/17/21 2:52 pm ::: |
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The position usage for Onyenwere's going to be interesting once Stokes/Howard are available. Does she stay mostly a 4, or start getting meaningful minutes as a 3? Might not be as much difference in NY's system as with some teams, but there are generally still two identifiable 'bigs' on the defensive end. |
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Posted: 05/17/21 3:08 pm ::: |
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I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way.
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Posted: 05/17/21 3:32 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch.
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 05/17/21 3:48 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
The Australian bench mob.
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Posted: 05/17/21 3:58 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
Youâre proving Hopkins right. He called Whitcomb their biggest âunsung heroâ. You want to unsung her right to the bench.
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Posted: 05/17/21 4:09 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
Youâre proving Hopkins right. He called Whitcomb their biggest âunsung heroâ. You want to unsung her right to the bench. |
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/17/21 5:11 pm ::: |
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I will just keep saying, again and again: it baffles me how some basketball fans are SO focused on who the starters are and who comes off the bench. For me, these two things are far more crucial: the amount of minutes each player gets and, above all, who's on the court in the last five minutes of close games.
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Posted: 05/17/21 5:13 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
Youâre proving Hopkins right. He called Whitcomb their biggest âunsung heroâ. You want to unsung her right to the bench. |
she would still get lots of minutes. And as he says, it will depend on the opponent and matchups.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/17/21 5:22 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
she would still get lots of minutes. And as he says, it will depend on the opponent and matchups. |
I completely agree. Which is why, in my view, the issue of whether Whitcomb starts--or comes off the bench--is of minimal importance. She will be a valuable asset on this team.
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Posted: 05/17/21 5:37 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
Youâre proving Hopkins right. He called Whitcomb their biggest âunsung heroâ. You want to unsung her right to the bench. |
she would still get lots of minutes. And as he says, it will depend on the opponent and matchups. |
The leadership skills are more useful on the court.
Onyenwere would get decent minutes off the bench as well.
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Posted: 05/17/21 5:44 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
I will just keep saying, again and again: it baffles me how some basketball fans are SO focused on who the starters are and who comes off the bench. For me, these two things are far more crucial: the amount of minutes each player gets and, above all, who's on the court in the last five minutes of close games. |
True. It's all about PT. Playing Time.
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Posted: 05/17/21 6:33 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I'd guess that for some games the starting front line will be Laney, Stokes, and Howard. For other games it'll be Laney, Onyenwere, and Howard. I see Allen as coming off the bench either way. |
They can easily move Laney to the two as well...letting Allen and Whitcomb come off the bench would make for a nice scoring punch. |
Youâre proving Hopkins right. He called Whitcomb their biggest âunsung heroâ. You want to unsung her right to the bench. |
she would still get lots of minutes. And as he says, it will depend on the opponent and matchups. |
The leadership skills are more useful on the court.
Onyenwere would get decent minutes off the bench as well. |
I give Hopkins credit for showing great flexibility. At the end of Friday's game, when he needed defense he used Didi and Jones instead of Ionescu and Whitcomb. He also replaced Onyenwere with Gray to give him conventional size. Walt has said the team is full of good defenders, but that Laney, Jones, and Richards are a cut above the rest. So, that's who he used. Walt also takes the ballhandling away from Sabrina when she gets too aggressive or sloppy. Interestingly, he's been using Laney and Jones instead of Clarendon. Hopkins doesn't seem to be sparing anybody's feelings. He just does what needs to be done.
On Friday, Walt did freak me out when he put Reshanda Gray on the court for that final offensive possession. In retrospect, I guess he wanted another big body for screening purposes or maybe a putback.
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Posted: 05/17/21 6:57 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
I will just keep saying, again and again: it baffles me how some basketball fans are SO focused on who the starters are and who comes off the bench. For me, these two things are far more crucial: the amount of minutes each player gets and, above all, who's on the court in the last five minutes of close games. |
+1 Bob
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/17/21 7:14 pm ::: |
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RavenDog wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
I will just keep saying, again and again: it baffles me how some basketball fans are SO focused on who the starters are and who comes off the bench. For me, these two things are far more crucial: the amount of minutes each player gets and, above all, who's on the court in the last five minutes of close games. |
+1 Bob |
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Posted: 05/17/21 7:54 pm ::: |
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so what have we got 200 total minutes
30 Ionescu
30 Howard
30 Laney
20 Onyenwere
20 Stokes
20 Whitcomb
20 Jones
15 Richards
15 Allen
We can figure out how to work in Clarendon later as something seems off ATM
If when Allen steps up she can eat into someone else's minutes at that time
Odom ends up getting cut along with Gray When Stokes and Howard return
(Unless we decide to cut Willoughby since she gets paid no matter what, won't get picked up off waivers because she is out all season and Guarantee her to return at her same rate next season. However I could see them keeping Willoughby and using Odom's money towards replacement player if their are future injuries, and already being down one because of Willoughby get them closer to hardship status).
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