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Michelle89
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Posted: 03/15/21 4:30 pm ::: |
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I wonder what management knew when? and how much of the new roster was intentional or a reaction to their cap situation? Or possibly other things going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of.
Losing both Howard and Clark looks even weirder in the rearview mirror of both Langhorne and Tuck retiring? Surely Seattle could have opted to go with 11 and paid at least one of Howard or Clark. |
I dont know if it was about money for both of them.
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Queenie
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Posted: 03/15/21 4:33 pm ::: |
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Funny that in the end they didn't actually have to cut Langhorne or Tuck, after all the time we spent talking about it. |
I mean, for all we know, they were gently encouraged to jump before they could be pushed.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/15/21 7:05 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
KLS/MHH
Dupree/Magbegor
Stewart/Russell
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Spooner, this is what I got.
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
Stewart/KLS
Dupree/Herbert Harrigan
Russell/Magbegor
If they can get a good developmental PG at #11, do it.
Do they like Slocum in Seattle?
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Shades
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Posted: 03/15/21 7:13 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 03/15/21 9:47 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
KLS/MHH
Dupree/Magbegor
Stewart/Russell
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Spooner, this is what I got.
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
Stewart/KLS
Dupree/Herbert Harrigan
Russell/Magbegor
If they can get a good developmental PG at #11, do it.
Do they like Slocum in Seattle? |
That is an interesting spin on it for sure
at 11 Slocum seems possible, I am seeing Westbrook in that spot (Of Course unless Reeves decides to go UConn three years in a row).
I could also see them forgo a draft pick all together (defer with Heal or one of the French players) and go with more experience with Young and Talbot.
It doesn't make as much sense with your spin on the line up but if you go more traditional you end up with
Bird/Canada/(Prince)
Loyd/Prince/Young
Talbot/KLS
Stewart/Dupree/MHH
Russell/Magbegor
Prince becomes your 3rd PG in a pinch.
Talbot becomes the poor man version of Clark
I wonder if in this stage in her career Dupree would be open to coming off the bench, if so Russell or Magbegor can move into the starting line up and Dupree's offense can lead the 2nd unit when Stewart is off the floor.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/15/21 11:18 pm ::: |
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I don’t think they gave Dupree the third highest salary on the team to play 10 minutes a game behind Stewart. She’s still starter quality.
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craigmont
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Posted: 03/16/21 2:14 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
KLS/MHH
Dupree/Magbegor
Stewart/Russell
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Spooner, this is what I got.
Bird/Canada
Loyd/Prince
Stewart/KLS
Dupree/Herbert Harrigan
Russell/Magbegor
If they can get a good developmental PG at #11, do it.
Do they like Slocum in Seattle? |
I like your lineup if we can get Dupree to play some defense (dreaming, I know....)
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Shades
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Posted: 03/16/21 12:55 pm ::: |
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It looks like Stewart plays the SF with UMMC. She plays with Griner and Vadeeva out there. Offensively her game is very perimeter. She’s always a threat to hit from three. If she can get her defender to leave her feet or guard her too tightly, then she’s capable of driving to the basket from the three point line. Defensively she has the length to bother shooters and adequate quickness to keep up with them.
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Posted: 03/17/21 10:53 am ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
I dont know if it was about money for both of them. |
To the extent it was about money, I'd speculate it was much more about 2022 and dealing with raises for Canada/Lloyd/Stewart/Russell if retained than 2021.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/17/21 11:30 am ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
I dont know if it was about money for both of them. |
To the extent it was about money, I'd speculate it was much more about 2022 and dealing with raises for Canada/Lloyd/Stewart/Russell if retained than 2021. |
What do you think of a Loyd for Slooty trade if Slooty wants to go to SEA?
I figure something’s gotta give over in CHI next year with all their 2018 grads seeking more money next year. Got a feeling Slooty may wanna go if Quigley isn’t retained in CHI.
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Posted: 03/17/21 11:54 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
TDAO wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
I dont know if it was about money for both of them. |
To the extent it was about money, I'd speculate it was much more about 2022 and dealing with raises for Canada/Lloyd/Stewart/Russell if retained than 2021. |
What do you think of a Loyd for Slooty trade if Slooty wants to go to SEA?
I figure something’s gotta give over in CHI next year with all their 2018 grads seeking more money next year. Got a feeling Slooty may wanna go if Quigley isn’t retained in CHI. |
This is actually very realistic for both sides . Lloyd from the Chicago area along with Slooty from the NW area of Washington . If I were VV id go for it , Although if Chicago has not found a back up by then i doubt they budge. Wade is no fool and Slooty is there franchise player even with Candace imo .
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/17/21 12:33 pm ::: |
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Russell has shown she can be good in certain situations against certain lineups. I don't see her as your 30 min/game starting center. JMO
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Posted: 03/17/21 2:23 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
TDAO wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
I dont know if it was about money for both of them. |
To the extent it was about money, I'd speculate it was much more about 2022 and dealing with raises for Canada/Lloyd/Stewart/Russell if retained than 2021. |
What do you think of a Loyd for Slooty trade if Slooty wants to go to SEA?
I figure something’s gotta give over in CHI next year with all their 2018 grads seeking more money next year. Got a feeling Slooty may wanna go if Quigley isn’t retained in CHI. |
This is actually very realistic for both sides . Lloyd from the Chicago area along with Slooty from the NW area of Washington . If I were VV id go for it , Although if Chicago has not found a back up by then i doubt they budge. Wade is no fool and Slooty is there franchise player even with Candace imo . |
The five-year age difference (27 to 32) is more than a little problematic.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 03/17/21 3:39 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Russell has shown she can be good in certain situations against certain lineups. I don't see her as your 30 min/game starting center. JMO |
Russell was at her best in 2019 as our starting center, where she averaged 25 min/game. She wasn't as effective off the bench in limited minutes this past season. But now, Russell could probably play closer to 20-25 min/game as the starter again, with Magbegor getting the rest of the center minutes. Should work out fine imo.
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
What do you think of a Loyd for Slooty trade if Slooty wants to go to SEA? |
This is actually very realistic for both sides . Loyd from the Chicago area along with Slooty from the NW area of Washington . If I were VV id go for it , Although if Chicago has not found a back up by then i doubt they budge. Wade is no fool and Slooty is there franchise player even with Candace imo . |
The five-year age difference (27 to 32) is more than a little problematic. |
I agree with Clay. Plus, they don't play the same position. How would Chicago replace Slooty at the PG spot? Plus plus, they're both scheduled to be UFAs next season, which makes a trade even more complicated unless they're both either cored or want supermax money from their new team. Candace Parker & Chelsea Gray both walked for $190k – assuming Loyd & Slooty don't get cored (if Slooty's even able to be), why wouldn't they walk as well for potentially 2022's regular max salary of $196k?
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Michelle89
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/17/21 4:39 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Russell has shown she can be good in certain situations against certain lineups. I don't see her as your 30 min/game starting center. JMO |
Russell was at her best in 2019 as our starting center, where she averaged 25 min/game. She wasn't as effective off the bench in limited minutes this past season. But now, Russell could probably play closer to 20-25 min/game as the starter again, with Magbegor getting the rest of the center minutes. Should work out fine imo.
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yeah, her best numbers: 7 pts, 6 rebs... is that really what you want from a starter?
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Stormeo
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Posted: 03/17/21 5:29 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Russell has shown she can be good in certain situations against certain lineups. I don't see her as your 30 min/game starting center. JMO |
Russell was at her best in 2019 as our starting center, where she averaged 25 min/game. She wasn't as effective off the bench in limited minutes this past season. But now, Russell could probably play closer to 20-25 min/game as the starter again, with Magbegor getting the rest of the center minutes. Should work out fine imo.
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yeah, her best numbers: 7 pts, 6 rebs... is that really what you want from a starter? |
Howard didn’t average a whole lot more than that last season – not even double-figure scoring. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Scoring in general hasn’t been an issue for the Storm for several years now. AFAIC, Russell just needs to hit her shots at a good clip & play good defense. If it really doesn’t work out, she & Magbegor can trade places.
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IM in OC
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Posted: 03/17/21 6:32 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
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Does anyone know whySloot and Allie didnt play? |
Quigley was dressed, not sure why she didnt play. I did not see Sloot on the bench or in any huddles.
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Posted: 03/17/21 7:27 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Russell has shown she can be good in certain situations against certain lineups. I don't see her as your 30 min/game starting center. JMO |
Russell was at her best in 2019 as our starting center, where she averaged 25 min/game. She wasn't as effective off the bench in limited minutes this past season. But now, Russell could probably play closer to 20-25 min/game as the starter again, with Magbegor getting the rest of the center minutes. Should work out fine imo.
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yeah, her best numbers: 7 pts, 6 rebs... is that really what you want from a starter? |
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