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| Why would the Sky trade two young quality players for OLD Candace Parker? Candace is an UFA. If the Sky really want her all they have to do is sign her. They don't have to give up anything to get her. |
This is in the event that she wants the supermax. If she's good with the regular max, of course she's just gonna peace tf out of LA if she wants to leave.
Why Copper & Stevens, you ask? Copper wasn't great on D, and is still gonna make $165k. Stevens could very well be the next Moriah Jefferson in the sense of being a former UConn player who hasn't been healthy – and currently still isn't – since her rookie year. Chicago in trading those two away for even a Candace Parker at her most expensive would create some extra cap space (about $13k minimum, fwiw) that they could use to retain Cheyenne Parker in a "Parker-squared" scenario. That would make them a lot less dependent on Dolson, who herself needs to get healthy.
Although........ I'm doing the numbers, and they might not be able to get to 11 players that way. So maybe disregard that idea anyway LMAO  I h8 being obsessed sometimes  |
I was thinking about the cap space issues for both teams one variation that would solve the problem sort of would be this crazy 3 team trade
LA gets Cambage (super max) and Deshields (by sending out two super maxes and getting Deshields on rookie contract gives LA the cap space to re-sign Sykes and possibly Chiney if she is willing to sign on for just over minimum)
LV gets Ch. Gray (Super max), Dolson, Anigwe and pick #8 (can re-sign McBride) (Two variables Cambage still really wants to go to LA and Laimbeer likes last years squad better than the year before and improves on it by adding Plum back in, Ch. Gray's superior play and shooting to D-Rob or Allen, Dolson is similar but upgrade to Swords and Anigwe and pick 8 gives greater depth to the bench than last season)
Chi gets Can. Parker (Super max) and pick #10 and #12 (and can afford to re-sign Ch. Parker)
LA
Toliver, Sykes, Deshields, N. Ogwumike, Cambage
Cooper, #15, Weiss, Ch. Ogwumike, Gulich, Vadeeva
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Ch. Gray, McBride, McCoughtry, Wilson, Dolson
Allen, Plum, pick #8, Young, Hamby, Anigwe
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Sloot, Quigley, Copper, Ca. Parker, Ch. Parker
#10, Williams, #12, Stevens, Mavunga, Hebard
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| Posted: 01/27/21 6:07 pm ::: |
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since Parker has already said Chicago and Nneka is staying put here are some of my out there or not so out there predictions
C. Gray lands in LV. (maybe just signs, maybe traded for Plum and something)
Howard traded to Dallas
A. Gray traded to Seattle as part of Howard Deal (maybe with Alarie or KLS and some picks)
Cambage I am going with staying in LV *but won't be surprised if she id traded to LA maybe for Ch. Gray and something as a variation on my Ch. Gray to LV idea)
Ch. Parker NY (OK really Atl but hoping for NY)
Achonwa Chi (Cheaper Ch. Parker replacement)
Bird Sea Clark Sea Taurasi PX McBride LV
Hawkins Atl
Charles Wash
Meeseman Wash
Breland Conn
Holmes Conn
Laney Atl
Lavender Indy
Powers Indy
J. Thomas Conn
Wheeler Indy
Vaughn or Plaisance PX
Zahui B Minny
R. Williams LA
B. Jones Conn
SWK Wash
Whitcomb PX
Colson Chi
Sykes LA
NY gets Allen to return and gets no one else and has to focus on future with #1 draft pick Collier and Ionescu
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| Posted: 01/27/21 6:49 pm ::: |
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McBride to Minnesota._________________
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| Posted: 01/27/21 8:30 pm ::: |
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| Cheyenne Parker to Atlanta verbally agreed according to Winsidr.
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| Posted: 01/27/21 8:52 pm ::: |
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| Cheyenne Parker to Atlanta verbally agreed according to Winsidr. |
I’m fucking pissed, not gone lie._________________
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| Posted: 01/27/21 9:14 pm ::: |
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| Not my first choice of free agent C Parkers, but a nice addition to the Dream
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| Posted: 01/27/21 9:26 pm ::: |
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| So with McBride to Minny does the legitimize the Talks of C.Gray & Vegas even further? They obviously knew before we did right @Chasingratsdogs?
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| Posted: 01/27/21 9:58 pm ::: |
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| Cheyenne Parker to Atlanta verbally agreed according to Winsidr. |
I saw their report that the Fever offered CP3 a super-max deal. Curious to see if that will have any impact on Indy's FAs. |
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| Posted: 01/27/21 10:00 pm ::: |
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I like it
I know on my list I had her staying in Atl
but I thought with Hayes coming back Atl might not give her the big money
and while NY has a ton of wings Laney could easily be the starting SF
domino affect Nurse goes back to the 2 Ionescu yo the 1 Clarendon to the bench and if Johannes shows with a less likely Olympics NY looks improved
Ionescu/Clarendon
Nurse/Johannes
Laney/
#1 pick
Stokes
still have to figure out the rest
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| Posted: 01/27/21 10:08 pm ::: |
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So far, you’re telling me no UFA has been given their “worth” in these negotiations with their former team? Like not one.._________________
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| Posted: 01/27/21 10:12 pm ::: |
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It seems like cause and affect
Chi gives Can Parker money can't afford Ch. Parker
Atl gives Ch. Parker money and has Hayes returning so doesn't go big money for Laney
LV pursuing Ch. Gray probably at max or super max after trade, cores Cambage super max, has Plum returning at 175 might not have as much need or money for McBride
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| Posted: 01/27/21 10:16 pm ::: |
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It seems like cause and affect
Chi gives Can Parker money can't afford Ch. Parker
Atl gives Ch. Parker money and has Hayes returning so doesn't go big money for Laney
LV pursuing Ch. Gray probably at max or super max after trade, cores Cambage super max, has Plum returning at 175 might not have as much need or money for McBride |
So clearly, these teams didn’t really give a damn about taking care of their own players first._________________
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| Posted: 01/27/21 11:05 pm ::: |
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It seems like cause and affect
Chi gives Can Parker money can't afford Ch. Parker
Atl gives Ch. Parker money and has Hayes returning so doesn't go big money for Laney
LV pursuing Ch. Gray probably at max or super max after trade, cores Cambage super max, has Plum returning at 175 might not have as much need or money for McBride |
So clearly, these teams didn’t really give a damn about taking care of their own players first. |
I don't think it is that they didn't give a damn I think they simply valued the option they went with more. I think you can argue in all of the above examples that the in-coming player has higher perceived value to the team than the current player they moved on from. It is a little cold but it is that whole it is a business first thing.
Also not saying it is good or bad just breaking down how I see it
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| Posted: 01/27/21 11:09 pm ::: |
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It seems like cause and affect
Chi gives Can Parker money can't afford Ch. Parker
Atl gives Ch. Parker money and has Hayes returning so doesn't go big money for Laney
LV pursuing Ch. Gray probably at max or super max after trade, cores Cambage super max, has Plum returning at 175 might not have as much need or money for McBride |
Domino effect. Teams were anticipating signing their own, but CHI got an offer they couldn’t refuse, triggering movement all over the place.
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| Posted: 01/27/21 11:38 pm ::: |
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| Do not agree with that decision by Atlanta. Carter, Williams and Hayes on paper is a good backcourt but they're hobbits compared to the rest of the league. Worst defensive team next year.
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| Posted: 01/28/21 12:09 am ::: |
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I think I found out Megdal’s source. His minion sources are likely unreliable as seen by his bad calls on Ionescu and Cambage demanding Sparks only. But the biggest WNBA sports agency should be pretty reliable. Why they aren’t keeping quiet, I don’t know.
I found something that could be interesting. Their client list has many players designated as “unavailable”.🤔
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| Posted: 01/28/21 1:03 am ::: |
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I h8 her for saying this: https://twitter.com/SkyDigg4/status/1354578741511393280
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(she tweeted this a little after the Parker news broke)
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