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PostPosted: 01/07/21 10:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bob Lamm wrote:
I've just discovered this a week late. For anyone else who didn't already know:

https://empiresportsmedia.com/liberty/new-york-liberty-g-layshia-clarendon-and-wife-jessica-welcome-first-child/

Congratulations to Layshia and Jessica!!! And now we have one more New York Liberty fan. Smile


Mazel Tov Layshia and Jessica Very Happy



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PostPosted: 01/07/21 1:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Paris Kea has had knee surgery:

https://liberty.wnba.com/news/paris-kea-medical-update/?fbclid=IwAR2jAJ8uUKhlGj19lE7ETX0flrtBbhtfdUM69EI6uoIj9jk8KJ4zPZMuIq8



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PostPosted: 01/07/21 1:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just got an email from the Liberty saying that Paris Kea had ACL surgery. The procedure was done at HSS, which has an affiliation with the Nets/Liberty. I don't know if that means they want to keep her in the fold somehow, but the email also makes a point of noting that Kea is not under contract.

Oops, didn't see Bob's post. Slow on the draw again. Laughing



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PostPosted: 01/07/21 11:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bob Lamm wrote:
Paris Kea has had knee surgery:

https://liberty.wnba.com/news/paris-kea-medical-update/?fbclid=IwAR2jAJ8uUKhlGj19lE7ETX0flrtBbhtfdUM69EI6uoIj9jk8KJ4zPZMuIq8


sad for her. Have enjoyed watching her from college days. Hope she can make a full recovery and find a home afterward.



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 12:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/sports/basketball/new-york-liberty-ionescu.html



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 12:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/sports/basketball/new-york-liberty-ionescu.html

I saw this. I was intrigued by the headline... started reading & enjoying the imaginative & alluring content. Then I considered the source, and as luck would have it, the author is Megdal. Laughing I’ll never forget how he falsely reported Ionescu early-declaring in 2019. Hasn’t really recovered from that in my book. Embarassed



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 1:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, I saw this earlier and I became immediately skeptical when I saw it was written by Megdal. He seems to just assume Nurse will bounce back and that Johannes will show up. I don't think either is close to being a given. Megdal is also the second person I've seen suggest that Nneka would want to be in NY because she's the union president. Why? It's not like they negotiate a CBA every year, and when they do it's during the off-season. Sure, unexpected issues will occasionally arise that require immediate attention, but why can't that be handled by conference call, Zoom or Skype? I don't see any reason why Nneka needs to be near the League office all summer long.



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 11:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
Yeah, I saw this earlier and I became immediately skeptical when I saw it was written by Megdal. He seems to just assume Nurse will bounce back and that Johannes will show up. I don't think either is close to being a given. Megdal is also the second person I've seen suggest that Nneka would want to be in NY because she's the union president. Why? It's not like they negotiate a CBA every year, and when they do it's during the off-season. Sure, unexpected issues will occasionally arise that require immediate attention, but why can't that be handled by conference call, Zoom or Skype? I don't see any reason why Nneka needs to be near the League office all summer long.


I agree regarding the three questionable assumptions that you've noted here. I'd just add this. When I read that article by Megdal, it told me nothing that I didn't know already.



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 1:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bob Lamm wrote:
root_thing wrote:
Yeah, I saw this earlier and I became immediately skeptical when I saw it was written by Megdal. He seems to just assume Nurse will bounce back and that Johannes will show up. I don't think either is close to being a given. Megdal is also the second person I've seen suggest that Nneka would want to be in NY because she's the union president. Why? It's not like they negotiate a CBA every year, and when they do it's during the off-season. Sure, unexpected issues will occasionally arise that require immediate attention, but why can't that be handled by conference call, Zoom or Skype? I don't see any reason why Nneka needs to be near the League office all summer long.


I agree regarding the three questionable assumptions that you've noted here. I'd just add this. When I read that article by Megdal, it told me nothing that I didn't know already.


Yeah, I didn't get much out of the article either. However, I did like this quote:

Quote:
“The rookies will mature as players, and they’re going to be more ready to step in and be more efficient,” Kolb said. “And in terms of the system, I mean, of course, we will change things up. We’ve been deep diving into doing an autopsy of our season, and looking at all of it, offensively and defensively. And so I think it will be a combination of personnel and improvements.”


Well, this coroner says that the victim died from bad shooting. Supposedly, the analytics philosophy of basketball emphasizes 3pt shots and layups. Too bad the Liberty were last in shooting percentage for both categories. In fact, the Liberty were last at every distance except 10-14 ft, where they were next to last. Also, while we're examining morbidity, I hope management notices that things go badly when they use the small line-up. Do not bring back the 3s as 4s, and certainly do not expand it!



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 2:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
Well, this coroner says that the victim died from bad shooting. Supposedly, the analytics philosophy of basketball emphasizes 3pt shots and layups. Too bad the Liberty were last in shooting percentage for both categories. In fact, the Liberty were last at every distance except 10-14 ft, where they were next to last. Also, while we're examining morbidity, I hope management notices that things go badly when they use the small line-up. Do not bring back the 3s as 4s, and certainly do not expand it!


I suppose that Kolb and Hopkins might argue that the 2020 Liberty season wasn't a true test of the small lineup approach. Limited training camp, no preseason games, short season, no Sabrina, and all those rookies. Just one season with all that. But I'd say it's a questionable approach to WNBA basketball in this era. I'd much prefer that NOT be the team's approach in 2021 except for limited situations where the matchups using a small lineup really look good.



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 2:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing - post of the week. Very Happy



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PostPosted: 01/16/21 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Liberty had the least amount of talent in the league, by a long shot, and that was clear from training camp.

Bad players miss shots. Bad players can't defend. Bad players turn the ball over.

To play better, the Liberty need better players, first and foremost. Hopkins can scheme all he wants but if your best player is worse than the other team's fourth best player, you've got problems that schemes can't fix.



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