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PostPosted: 06/22/20 11:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jonquel Jones opts out

https://sun.wnba.com/news/jones-opts-out-for-2020-season/



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 3:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Jonquel Jones is opting out and will not play this season.

https://twitter.com/Winsidr/status/1275096902627885057


Somebody responding has 3 teams:


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Replying to @Winsidr
Good. Definitely Winning Against Them! Good News For My,
@wnbachicagosky @IndianaFever And @DallasWings ! #WNBA


But I feel the asterisk someone mentions in reply. Seems like an asterisk season even if no one opts out.

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Just make sure to put an asterisk next to the wins after more players opt out. She wasn’t the first to opt out and definitely won’t be the last


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PostPosted: 06/22/20 4:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Do we asterisk seasons when an inordinate number of top players get injured?

Adapting to what players you have available is all part of sports, and injury luck plays a huge part in which teams will win every year.

The format and the length might make it feel weird for a bit, but not so much that it will have some lasting notoriety.



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 5:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, the 'asterisk' would be far more for the weirdness and brevity of the season than for whoever opts out. Unusual shit could happen, like when the NBA lockout shortened the 1999 season and we ended up with an 8-seed in the Finals. The stranger the format and the shorter the season, the more randomness is introduced.

But on some level, a ring is a ring is a ring. They'd raise a banner (eventually) in whichever city won the title, even if they win it in an empty gym in the middle of Florida.



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 5:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mystics' Sanders & Cloud opt-out.

https://mystics.wnba.com/news/cloud-sanders-to-opt-out-of-2020-season/



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 7:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Mystics' Sanders & Cloud opt-out.


https://twitter.com/SportsTalk_W/status/1272595203032076293

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Sources have informed me... Natasha Cloud is one of the players who does not want to play, and I’m hearing Mystic players are standing together to not play this year with Cloud leading the way.


Cloud saw that tweet and laughed at it in response (back on the 15th), but I mean... Cloud is indeed sitting out now, sooooo...........



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stormeo wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Mystics' Sanders & Cloud opt-out.


https://twitter.com/SportsTalk_W/status/1272595203032076293

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Sources have informed me... Natasha Cloud is one of the players who does not want to play, and I’m hearing Mystic players are standing together to not play this year with Cloud leading the way.


Cloud saw that tweet and laughed at it in response (back on the 15th), but I mean... Cloud is indeed sitting out now, sooooo...........


Meesseman has announced she's traveling over to the US on Thursday, so that dispells the rumors the whole team is sitting out.



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PostPosted: 06/22/20 7:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Stormeo wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Mystics' Sanders & Cloud opt-out.


https://twitter.com/SportsTalk_W/status/1272595203032076293

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Sources have informed me... Natasha Cloud is one of the players who does not want to play, and I’m hearing Mystic players are standing together to not play this year with Cloud leading the way.


Cloud saw that tweet and laughed at it in response (back on the 15th), but I mean... Cloud is indeed sitting out now, sooooo...........


Meesseman has announced she's traveling over to the US on Thursday, so that dispells the rumors the whole team is sitting out.


I never expected the entire team to sit out (such as their younger unproven players), but hey, there's still time for there to be more. We'll find out soon enough. The first part of that rumor, no matter how predictable it was, was still absolutely true; so imo she probably shouldn't have responded to it like it was 100% garbage. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 2:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tiffany Hayes has opted out.



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Tiffany Hayes has opted out.



Off with the horses they go........



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 3:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Tiffany Hayes has opted out.


Off with the horses they go........


The horses are getting out of the barn now! You did say Montgomery was not alone......... Surprised



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 3:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hayes was the first player to publicly grumble about getting the old CBA money. Could be a factor.



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 4:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Hayes was the first player to publicly grumble about getting the old CBA money. Could be a factor.


That raises an interesting question. Does this still count as a year on her contract even though she's voluntarily choosing not to play?



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PostPosted: 06/23/20 5:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
Hayes was the first player to publicly grumble about getting the old CBA money. Could be a factor.


That raises an interesting question. Does this still count as a year on her contract even though she's voluntarily choosing not to play?


Especially since she has actually been paid some on this year of her contract. It would seem hard to argue that it doesn't count.


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PostPosted: 06/23/20 5:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
Hayes was the first player to publicly grumble about getting the old CBA money. Could be a factor.


That raises an interesting question. Does this still count as a year on her contract even though she's voluntarily choosing not to play?

A year runs off contracts when people skip the year entirely. In a year where she received 1/6th of the salary, it definitely runs off.



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 2:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rebecca Allen has opted out.



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Rebecca Allen has opted out.


So much for small ball with NY this year or do they use someone else in her place that can shoot the 3 >? Maybe Kia at the 4 ?



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 2:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Rebecca Allen has opted out.


Is this going to be an Australian trend? Let’s ask Cambage and Whitcomb.

Will Brondello opt out?



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 5:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Rebecca Allen has opted out.


So much for small ball with NY this year or do they use someone else in her place that can shoot the 3 >? Maybe Kia at the 4 ?


I see a rookie starting at PF(Walker? Odom?).



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Rebecca Allen has opted out.

Is this going to be an Australian trend? Let’s ask Cambage and Whitcomb.

Whitcomb is heading over, apparently.
Not much point asking Cambage since words and actions do not always align with her.



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PostPosted: 06/25/20 7:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Does Whitcomb live in Australia when she's not playing there? I figured she lived in Seattle most of the year.


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PostPosted: 06/25/20 7:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PickledGinger wrote:
Does Whitcomb live in Australia when she's not playing there? I figured she lived in Seattle most of the year.

Yes, she lives here in Perth when not playing in Seattle or Europe (i.e. not very much in recent years, until Covid came along)



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PostPosted: 06/26/20 10:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Megdal tweeting out that the deadline is now 5pm today, but that's likely not set in stone. Also says there's a lot of TBD happening now. Unless the league enforces some kind of penalty for opting out past the deadline, players will be waiting until they get on a plane before deciding. Might see some rosters with just 9 or 10 players at the start in Florida.



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PostPosted: 06/26/20 10:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They can set a deadline for medical opt outs after which they won't be paid. Otherwise players can choose to leave whenever.



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