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O-'BAMA'-Gate: Barack tried to remove Alabama from the USA
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ObaM.A.G.A.te: Barack turned that famous mantra into "Make America Gag Again"
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ObamaGAYte: Barack was really in love with Mechelle, who was indeed, a drag queen.
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OBAMAGATE = "AMOEBA TAG" in anagram form, foreshadowing the epic microbial disaster we are all facing, having long known it was Barack's fault all along
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Howee



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PostPosted: 05/17/20 3:22 pm    ::: OBAMAGATE: The Reality Reply Reply with quote

What do YOU believe.... Question

IFFF you dare to pick "Other", please specify. Cool



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PostPosted: 05/17/20 4:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Cute poll. Wink

I'll tell you this. I don't have an opinion on this one. Because I can't deep dive into shit like this any more. I just can't. So many better things to do.

But there is a source of political news I'd like to share. And they are of the opinion that there's something to this Obamagate stuff. But I don't qualify or disqualify any media on the basis that I find that they're wrong about something or even a number of things. I credit them for whatever I hear that I know in my heart is the political and God awful truths of our time. And so they may be way off on Obamagate. Hey, they have a show to produce day in and day out. They are pretty much on the outside of big time punditry at this point and those two things can lead to a willingness to grab onto something on the edges now and then.

And that would be Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti's show on The Hill (Whatever form that 'publication' has taken at this point, I have no idea. I watch their shit on YouTube.)

And I will say this about their show, called RISING. I have never seen more brutal honest political truths on any form of media outside the old days on KPFK, LA's Pacifica Radio station on the way way WAY out Left Coast. They are right now doing the most essential political truth telling on this planet.

I'll be posting some of their stuff here as I respond to some things.

I would so love to take political talk on this board to someplace more subtle, more calm and more open and forgiving of other people's opinions. You know, like friends on the ground and not just anonymous usernames on the internet.

But yeah, on Obamagate I'd like to hear what people here on Rebkell's have to say about it.



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PostPosted: 05/17/20 8:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think there is nothing that Joe Biden would love more than for Trump to turn this election into an Obama vs. Trump referendum.

Obama left office at a high in popularity, and since then has been the beneficiary of the typical "ex-president" bump. Thus he remains an exceptionally popular figure outside of some partisan echo chambers.

Notably, his popularity is so far beyond both Biden's and Trump's that they barely belong charted on the same graph.



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PostPosted: 05/18/20 5:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I watch Rising. I like that they haven’t gone to the “from my living room” broadcasting everyone else has done despite the fact that we are told six feet is a safe distance. But I do wonder if they are six feet apart behind the desk. They could be further apart.

I also like The Jimmy Dore Show for political commentary. He also isn’t feeling the DNC and Co.


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 9:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
I think there is nothing that Joe Biden would love more than for Trump to turn this election into an Obama vs. Trump referendum.

Obama left office at a high in popularity, and since then has been the beneficiary of the typical "ex-president" bump. Thus he remains an exceptionally popular figure outside of some partisan echo chambers.

Notably, his popularity is so far beyond both Biden's and Trump's that they barely belong charted on the same graph.


I know, right?! Makes one ponder: is this the brainchild of Trump himself, orrr....the devious scheming of his minions (think: Hannity, Bannon, Miller, et. al.) and wtf is their logic in starting a shit war??



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PostPosted: 05/18/20 9:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, Jeezus Pleezus. It appears to be nothing more than Chump's lame attempt at drudging up a big fat nothingburger....Obama wiretapped Trump Towers, he says. OOLD fake news.

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PostPosted: 05/18/20 9:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Obama was doing politics as usual. That's all he ever did, as he is a run-of-the-mill politician.

Trump doesn't know what's usual, has a history of believing conspiracy theories, and is deeply racist. Of course he's trying to blow it up into something unprecedented.



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PostPosted: 05/18/20 10:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Trump doesn't know what's usual, has a history of believing conspiracy theories, and is deeply racist.


A serious question here: What has he done that would lead you to say that he is racist? Also which conspiracy theories are you referring to? For the record I have tried to follow these accusations in the past for my own knowledge and it always leads to someone's misinterpretation or overreaction to something signed into law. I've never heard him refer to someone as the n-word, for example.

On a separate note, Attorney General William Barr has announced that he doesn't foresee a criminal investigation of Joe Biden or Barack Obama relating to this scandal. Not sure if due to lack of evidence or the opposite.


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 10:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What has Trump done to make me think he's racist? Refusing to rent to blacks and lying to them about apartment availability in his buildings, which he managed to plea bargain out of being a violation of the Fair Housing Act. His continuing assertion of the guilt of the "Central Park Five", despite DNA evidence. John O'Donnell's Trumped! quotes Trump as saying “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump said in a 1997 interview with Playboy that the book was accurate, though he later denied it.

I've never heard of him using then-word either, but it would hardly be shocking if he had. If such a thing did come out nobody would say "Not Donald, he seemed like such a sophisticated and careful man who would never use such vulgar language, I'm so disappointed in him."

As for conspiracies, Trump is a birther. That's what put him on the political map instead of just being another loud mouthed rich dude.



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PostPosted: 05/19/20 12:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
What has Trump done to make me think he's racist? Refusing to rent to blacks and lying to them about apartment availability in his buildings, which he managed to plea bargain out of being a violation of the Fair Housing Act. His continuing assertion of the guilt of the "Central Park Five", despite DNA evidence. John O'Donnell's Trumped! quotes Trump as saying “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump said in a 1997 interview with Playboy that the book was accurate, though he later denied it.


Is that all??? Razz Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: 05/19/20 2:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
What has Trump done to make me think he's racist? Refusing to rent to blacks and lying to them about apartment availability in his buildings, which he managed to plea bargain out of being a violation of the Fair Housing Act. His continuing assertion of the guilt of the "Central Park Five", despite DNA evidence. John O'Donnell's Trumped! quotes Trump as saying “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump said in a 1997 interview with Playboy that the book was accurate, though he later denied it.


Is that all??? Razz Laughing Laughing


It's a start



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