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PostPosted: 04/28/20 3:58 pm    ::: Coaching Trees Reply Reply with quote

This should be a fun topic, *no snark please*. We all know that great coaches beget other coaches, and it should be fun to list the ones we can think of that our favorite coaches have produced. The reason I thought of this, other than quarantine boredom, was the obvious succession of Niele Ivy to Muffet McGraw's chair. I'll start with Pat Summitt.
Kellie Harper (Tennessee)
Nikki McCray (Mississippi State)
Nikki Caldwell Fargas (LSU)
Semeka Randall-Lay (Winthrop)
Matthew Mitchell (Kentucky)
and some ACs:
Niya Butts and Kyra Elzy (Kentucky)
Tasha Butts (GA Tech)
Bridgette Gordon (SMU)

I know there are others because at one time the coaching tree numbered around 30+, but my mind on quarantine is a little foggy. Anyway, I'd love to see the trees of others.



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PostPosted: 04/29/20 10:20 am    ::: Re: Coaching Trees Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
This should be a fun topic, *no snark please*. We all know that great coaches beget other coaches, and it should be fun to list the ones we can think of that our favorite coaches have produced. The reason I thought of this, other than quarantine boredom, was the obvious succession of Niele Ivy to Muffet McGraw's chair. I'll start with Pat Summitt.
Kellie Harper (Tennessee)
Nikki McCray (Mississippi State)
Nikki Caldwell Fargas (LSU)
Semeka Randall-Lay (Winthrop)
Matthew Mitchell (Kentucky)
and some ACs:
Niya Butts and Kyra Elzy (Kentucky)
Tasha Butts (GA Tech)
Bridgette Gordon (SMU)

I know there are others because at one time the coaching tree numbered around 30+, but my mind on quarantine is a little foggy. Anyway, I'd love to see the trees of others.


Aren't you forgetting Micki DeMoss and Holly Warlick?
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PostPosted: 04/29/20 10:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Holly's not coaching anywhere now. Not sure if Mickie is.

And I was hoping to learn about the trees of other coaches.



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PostPosted: 04/29/20 12:25 pm    ::: Re: Coaching Trees Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
This should be a fun topic, *no snark please*. We all know that great coaches beget other coaches, and it should be fun to list the ones we can think of that our favorite coaches have produced. The reason I thought of this, other than quarantine boredom, was the obvious succession of Niele Ivy to Muffet McGraw's chair. I'll start with Pat Summitt.


Questions...

--- For purposes of your thread topic, are you only referring to players who played for a particular coach, then became coaches themselves? I know you listed Mitchell, which might make your answer obvious, but was curious about you thought (and others) about a coaching tree.

--- In other words, does a coaching tree include coaches who were assistants but not former players for a previous head coach?


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PostPosted: 04/29/20 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Players and graduate assistants, I think. ACs are a little different breed, as they tend to come from a different background. A GA could be listed under two different coaches, however....for instance, for hypothetical purposes, Hailee Barron, should she ever become a coach in her own right, could be listed under Kenny Brooks, Sean O'Regan, Jonathan Tsipis, or Morgan Valley. However, I was thinking more in terms of the Great coaches, like Geno, Tara, Muffet, etc. I am really curious to see their coaching trees as I don't know much about them. Also, does Harry Peretta have one, other than Denise Dillon?



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PostPosted: 04/29/20 8:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wasn't Geno and Muffet at St Joe' with Jim Foster?


That's enough of a tree!


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 12:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Holly's not coaching anywhere now. Not sure if Mickie is.

And I was hoping to learn about the trees of other coaches.


Mickie is at Georgia Tech with Nell Fortner.


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 8:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mickie is a product of La Tech originally, as is Kim Mulkey, Not sure exactly where either got their coaching start. I do remember Kim as a player though in the Barmore days. Now HE was a good coach!



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PostPosted: 04/30/20 12:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Other former players/GA's currently active in Pat Summitt's tree...
Tanya Haave...HC at Metro State (D-II)
Lauren Avant Sumski...HC at Lipscomb
Ariel Massengale...AC at Lipscomb
Alex Fuller Simmons...HC at Gardner Webb
Shalon Pillow...AC at Middle Tenn.
Amber Smith...former GA, now AC at KY
Kamiko Williams...AC at Monmouth
Kara Lawson...AC with Celtics
Tamika Catchings...front office with Fever
Briana Bass Shoemaker...Dir of Player Dev at Indiana
Angel Elderking...former GA, now HC at Appalachian State
Heidi VanDerveer...former GA, now HC at UC San Diego
Shelley Sexton Collier, Nicky Anosike, and Alicia Manning are all HS coaches
Plus a lot of former/retired coaches
If you include her AC's as part of her tree, there are even more.




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PostPosted: 04/30/20 12:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Geno Auriemma's tree --

Shea Ralph (AC - UConn)
Jennifer Rizzoti (HC - Geo. Washington)
Jamelle Elliot (AC- UConn)
*Marisa Moseley (HC - Boston U)
*Tonya Cardoza (HC - Temple)
Morgan Valley (HC - Hartford)
Carla Berube (HC- Princeton)
Tamika Williams Jeter (AC - Ohio State)
Asjha Jones (AC - Washington Mystics, WNBA)

* did not play at UConn, but were AC's under Geno


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 2:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Mickie is a product of La Tech originally, as is Kim Mulkey, Not sure exactly where either got their coaching start. I do remember Kim as a player though in the Barmore days. Now HE was a good coach!


If you followed Barmore's tree through the iterations of other coaches trained by his assistants, I'd guess it'd be solid.

DeMoss played for Barmore (though officially for Hogg) I think just one year, but she didn't coach at Tech, even as an assistant. She went to Memphis State right after graduation.


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 2:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Barmore has eight former assistants who have gone on to be head coaches:

Kim Mulkey (Baylor)
Gary Blair (A&M)
Kurt Budke (Tech, Ok. State)
Nell Fortner (Purdue, USA)
Kristy Curry (Purdue, TTech, Alabama)
Stacey Johnson Klein (Fresno St)
Chris Long (Tech)
Jennifer White (St. Edwards)

Several players have also gone on to be head coaches
Teresa Weatherspoon (Tech)
Brooke Stoehr (Northwestern St., Tech)
Amy Brown (Tennessee Tech)
Angela Lawson (Incarnate Word)


If you were looking at branches of the tree, I know a few of Mulkey's players have moved on into coaching. I'm not sure about Blair's. The only assistant I can think of from Baylor who's become a head coach is Karen Aston.

One oddity about Barmore's tree is that he really taught Hogg how to coach, but then she hired him as her assistant.


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 2:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Debbie Ryan has Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley. That's a pretty good set of headliners.



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PostPosted: 04/30/20 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

TechDawgMc wrote:
Barmore has eight former assistants who have gone on to be head coaches:

Kim Mulkey (Baylor)
Gary Blair (A&M)
Kurt Budke (Tech, Ok. State)
Nell Fortner (Purdue, USA)
Kristy Curry (Purdue, TTech, Alabama)
Stacey Johnson Klein (Fresno St)
Chris Long (Tech)
Jennifer White (St. Edwards)

Several players have also gone on to be head coaches
Teresa Weatherspoon (Tech)
Brooke Stoehr (Northwestern St., Tech)
Amy Brown (Tennessee Tech)
Angela Lawson (Incarnate Word)


If you were looking at branches of the tree, I know a few of Mulkey's players have moved on into coaching. I'm not sure about Blair's. The only assistant I can think of from Baylor who's become a head coach is Karen Aston.

One oddity about Barmore's tree is that he really taught Hogg how to coach, but then she hired him as her assistant.


Didn't Barmore work for Mulkey as assistant at Baylor for a short time, too?


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 3:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hate to ask this but does Tyler count for Pat's tree?


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 4:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bucks4now wrote:
I hate to ask this but does Tyler count for Pat's tree?


Since the OP specified only former players or GA's, I don't think he counts.


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 4:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They also listed former AC's in the tree. Mitchell was under Pat. Wasn't Tyler a GA?


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PostPosted: 04/30/20 4:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bucks4now wrote:
They also listed former AC's in the tree. Mitchell was under Pat. Wasn't Tyler a GA?


I believe he got an AC position at Marquette right out of college.


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bucks4now wrote:
They also listed former AC's in the tree. Mitchell was under Pat. Wasn't Tyler a GA?


Tyler worked as a GA for the men's team.



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TechDawgMc wrote:
Barmore has eight former assistants who have gone on to be head coaches:

Kim Mulkey (Baylor)
Gary Blair (A&M)
Kurt Budke (Tech, Ok. State)
Nell Fortner (Purdue, USA)
Kristy Curry (Purdue, TTech, Alabama)
Stacey Johnson Klein (Fresno St)
Chris Long (Tech)
Jennifer White (St. Edwards)

Several players have also gone on to be head coaches
Teresa Weatherspoon (Tech)
Brooke Stoehr (Northwestern St., Tech)
Amy Brown (Tennessee Tech)
Angela Lawson (Incarnate Word)


If you were looking at branches of the tree, I know a few of Mulkey's players have moved on into coaching. I'm not sure about Blair's. The only assistant I can think of from Baylor who's become a head coach is Karen Aston.

One oddity about Barmore's tree is that he really taught Hogg how to coach, but then she hired him as her assistant.


I remember people saying that she was only a figurehead and he was the real coach.



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PostPosted: 04/30/20 9:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

this may not be all of them and some are out of date, but here's TVD:

Jennifer Azzi (1986-90) former USF coach [and the reason Azzi Fudd really should choose Stanford]
Rene Brown (assistant 1989-90) WNBA chief of basketball operations and player relations
Jamie Carey (1999-2002) Texas assistant
June Daugherty (1985-89 assistant coach Stanford) former Washington State coach
Milena Flores (1996-2000) Princeton assistant
Molly Goodenbour (1989-93) USF
Tia Jackson (assistant 1999-2000) Miami assistant
Bobbie Kelsey (1991-96) former Wisconsin coach
Lindy La Rocque (2008-12) former Belmont University (Nashville) assistant; now UNLV HC
Karen Middleton (assistant 1997-2007) Cal State Fullerton associate head coach
Melanie Murphy (2006-11) Sacred Heart Prep coach
Vanessa Nygaard (1993-9Cool Senior associate AD and girls’ basketball coach at L.A.-Windward School
Trina Patterson (assistant 2011-13) Old Dominion assistant
Kate Paye (1991-95) Stanford assistant
Julie Plank (1980-1995 Ohio State player and Stanford assistant) WNBA Washington Mystics coach from 2000-2013.
Nicole Powell (2000-04) Oregon assistant
Charmin Smith (1993-97) Cal head coach
Katy Steding (1986-90) Boston University coach
Angela Taylor (1989-93) president and GM of the WNBA Atlanta Dream
Amy Tucker (1980-82 Ohio State) Stanford associate head coach
Charli Turner Thorne (1984-8Cool Arizona State coach



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PostPosted: 05/01/20 9:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
this may not be all of them and some are out of date, but here's TVD:

Jennifer Azzi (1986-90) former USF coach [and the reason Azzi Fudd really should choose Stanford]
Rene Brown (assistant 1989-90) WNBA chief of basketball operations and player relations
Jamie Carey (1999-2002) Texas assistant
June Daugherty (1985-89 assistant coach Stanford) former Washington State coach
Milena Flores (1996-2000) Princeton assistant
Molly Goodenbour (1989-93) USF
Tia Jackson (assistant 1999-2000) Miami assistant
Bobbie Kelsey (1991-96) former Wisconsin coach
Lindy La Rocque (2008-12) former Belmont University (Nashville) assistant; now UNLV HC
Karen Middleton (assistant 1997-2007) Cal State Fullerton associate head coach
Melanie Murphy (2006-11) Sacred Heart Prep coach
Vanessa Nygaard (1993-9Cool Senior associate AD and girls’ basketball coach at L.A.-Windward School
Trina Patterson (assistant 2011-13) Old Dominion assistant
Kate Paye (1991-95) Stanford assistant
Julie Plank (1980-1995 Ohio State player and Stanford assistant) WNBA Washington Mystics coach from 2000-2013.
Nicole Powell (2000-04) Oregon assistant
Charmin Smith (1993-97) Cal head coach
Katy Steding (1986-90) Boston University coach
Angela Taylor (1989-93) president and GM of the WNBA Atlanta Dream
Amy Tucker (1980-82 Ohio State) Stanford associate head coach
Charli Turner Thorne (1984-8Cool Arizona State coach


Thanks for putting this together. Beth Burns was a volunteer coach for her at Ohio State back in the day and did some strength and conditioning work at Stanford more recently. Not sure what Lindsay Yamasaki is up to these days, but she had a brief coaching stint at Academy of Art in SF. TVD has an impressive tree! Nygaard, whom you mention above, is regarded as one of the premiere high school coaches in the country and I would think would be suited for college coaching if she desired.

And while not a "coaching" tree, her "basketball" tree is impressive with Hedgepeth and Donaphin in leadership positions in the WNBA and Wideman in the NBA. Susan (Borchardt) King's work with nutrition and conditioning/strength for USA Basketball and the WNBA.

Appel and Nneka Ogwumike were also pivotal players in the WNBAPA and the latter especially for the recent CBA.

With the exception of Miss Candice Wiggins (sorry, won't go there), Tara's crew has really impacted the growth of the game on several levels.


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PostPosted: 05/01/20 10:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Debbie Ryan has Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley. That's a pretty good set of headliners.


Yes indeed. Impressive headliners. She also has Tammi Reiss (Rhode Island), Tonya Cardoza (Temple), Audra Smith (South Carolina State), Monica Wright (AC at Virginia), Sharnee Zoll (AC at Rhode Island), and Jenny Boucek of the NBA's Mavericks. Wendy Palmer seems to be out of coaching now but had an HC stint at UNC-Greensboro after some assistant jobs at Virginia and Kentucky.

In terms of non-traditional coaches, former UVA point guard Dena Evans runs a prominent guard academy in Texas and is well regarded nationally for developing players.

And of course future Naismith HOFer Val Ackerman played for Ryan as well.


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PostPosted: 05/01/20 10:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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TechDawgMc wrote:
Barmore has eight former assistants who have gone on to be head coaches:

Kim Mulkey (Baylor)
Gary Blair (A&M)
Kurt Budke (Tech, Ok. State)
Nell Fortner (Purdue, USA)
Kristy Curry (Purdue, TTech, Alabama)
Stacey Johnson Klein (Fresno St)
Chris Long (Tech)
Jennifer White (St. Edwards)

Several players have also gone on to be head coaches
Teresa Weatherspoon (Tech)
Brooke Stoehr (Northwestern St., Tech)
Amy Brown (Tennessee Tech)
Angela Lawson (Incarnate Word)


If you were looking at branches of the tree, I know a few of Mulkey's players have moved on into coaching. I'm not sure about Blair's. The only assistant I can think of from Baylor who's become a head coach is Karen Aston.

One oddity about Barmore's tree is that he really taught Hogg how to coach, but then she hired him as her assistant.


I remember people saying that she was only a figurehead and he was the real coach.


She was an important figurehead for La Tech and had the smarts and lack of ego to hire Leon. Yes, Leon was the real coach in terms of X's O's but Sonja rallied the community for support, sold the program and was the lead recruiter. She was a force of a lovable Southern lady. Hogg played an important role in growing the La Tech brand and establishing the women's game in the early days. Very Happy


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myrtle wrote:
this may not be all of them and some are out of date, but here's TVD:

Jennifer Azzi (1986-90) former USF coach [and the reason Azzi Fudd really should choose Stanford]
Rene Brown (assistant 1989-90) WNBA chief of basketball operations and player relations
Jamie Carey (1999-2002) Texas assistant
June Daugherty (1985-89 assistant coach Stanford) former Washington State coach
Milena Flores (1996-2000) Princeton assistant
Molly Goodenbour (1989-93) USF
Tia Jackson (assistant 1999-2000) Miami assistant
Bobbie Kelsey (1991-96) former Wisconsin coach
Lindy La Rocque (2008-12) former Belmont University (Nashville) assistant; now UNLV HC
Karen Middleton (assistant 1997-2007) Cal State Fullerton associate head coach
Melanie Murphy (2006-11) Sacred Heart Prep coach
Vanessa Nygaard (1993-9Cool Senior associate AD and girls’ basketball coach at L.A.-Windward School
Trina Patterson (assistant 2011-13) Old Dominion assistant
Kate Paye (1991-95) Stanford assistant
Julie Plank (1980-1995 Ohio State player and Stanford assistant) WNBA Washington Mystics coach from 2000-2013.
Nicole Powell (2000-04) Oregon assistant
Charmin Smith (1993-97) Cal head coach
Katy Steding (1986-90) Boston University coach
Angela Taylor (1989-93) president and GM of the WNBA Atlanta Dream
Amy Tucker (1980-82 Ohio State) Stanford associate head coach
Charli Turner Thorne (1984-8Cool Arizona State coach



Nicole Powell (2000-04) Oregon assistant -- And now new HC at UC Riverside!


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