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[jammerbirdi]

I think where you guys are off (well, lol, the most fundamental place where you’re off) is in your acceptance and parroting of this very transparent mainstream media and Democratic Party driven narrative that it is the fault of these people who are refusing to get vaccinated or mask up that the pandemic isn’t behind us by now. This doesn’t even address the idea that yeah, your federal government can tell everyone to take a shot of a vaccine into their bodies or lose their livelihood in what has become a brutally unforgiving have and have nots economy in this country.

To even say this, that the pandemic would be over if these people would only have taken the vaccine, is making a statement that contains the unmistakable DNA of the news media or entertainment figures or the political party that you’re taking your information from, and that you’re accepting unquestioned as fact.

I know this is now a small group, so we can’t expect wide ranges of opinion here, but I haven’t seen anyone (other than maybe tfan) who is taking in information in a way that reflects his own curiosity and gathering up of pieces of news reports that actually show nuance and facets of what has been happening that paint a more complete and honest picture of where we are and why we might have gotten here.

There’s been so much stuff out there to look at and form better informed outlooks and conclusions from. They’re not comfortable or easily accepted or compiled narrative paths to go down. But we’re not children here and we’re literally going down the same path together with COVID whether some of us are doing so with a narrow blinkered perspective that has been sugar coated and spoon fed to you by whatever voices you’re listening to or not.

I’ll give you a hint, a specific string of DNA that reveals the family tree your information and opinions are sourced from. It is that you have been presented with fellow citizens to blame for where we are now, a vast swath that sounds conservative, red state, MAGA driven etc. That’s the DNA that your conclusions contain that reveal where you’re getting them from. And that you guys are actually sitting here reflecting anger at these people only shows how much and how hard you’ve swallowed what you’re being told to think right now.

This is a repeat of last year before the vaccines even existed when the mainstream media would show you video of parties in the Ozarks or someplace like that which riled up the same blame and hatred and scorn in you. And for whom? For people who the mainstream media and, as a direct result, YOU, most strongly identify with the opposing political ideology of your own. How easy this is for those who have the power to make and shape public opinion. And no one, no segment of the American population, has been more gullibly taken in over the last dozen or so years, than all of us on our side.

While we point to these red state morons and sneer, we’re completely unaware that it is WE who are the actual marks. Democratic and progressive leaning voters. We’re the targets of the distractions and false narratives and acceptance of being manipulated into hating the ‘other’ that we believe we’re morally and intellectually above falling for. But, incredibly, almost all of us on our side have fallen very very hard for all of it.

Do any of you ever apply your own critical thinking to any of this? Can you even utter something critical about what’s happened with this administration’s handling of the pandemic so far? Can you show that you are even aware of some of the things that have happened that indicate problems or inconsistencies with this administration’s response that have, as yet, not appeared on Rebkell’s and haven’t been a part of the discussion here? Because I sure as hell haven’t seen any of it. What I see are the words I hear on CNN and MSNBC and from Hollywood being parroted almost verbatim.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[mercfan3]

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[FrozenLVFan]

[Howee]

[jammerbirdi]

Really, Frozen? Statements made by Fauci? I mean, I’d be laughing at that if any of this were funny. Your statement exemplifies what I’m referring to. And using Fauci is laden with subtext that would take hours just to type here.

So I put the burden on YOU. Criticize Fauci. What have you got? I’ve praised him here and even just the other day. But I also have criticisms. You’re touting him as a reliable good faith resource of information. But do you have any criticisms of him?

Or no?

Are you aware of what is being said about him by some fairly down the middle observers?

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[jammerbirdi]

[jammerbirdi]

Look. Fauci himself has admitted this. He has admitted that in telling the American people that masks were not effective against COVID that he did that for a greater good reason and that was because those masks were in short supply and badly needed for front line medical workers.

That theme has been repeated over and over again in the information that has been presented to the public on COVID. Fauci himself provided the easiest up front most quickly verifiable and most easily understood example (ironically since he was in your list of what you apparently consider to be reliable sources of information) of information being curated, manipulated or even, as in this case, fabricated completely, for specific purposes before being presented to the American people as fact?

I ask YOU guys, what other examples can you give? Because if you can’t or won’t then it proves to me that you’re not approaching this conversation honestly or in good faith. This is the theme of the public information we have been given throughout this first eight months of the Biden administration. It should be very difficult for any thinking person to simply just accept what their government is telling them right now. But apparently it isn’t.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[FrozenLVFan]

[jammerbirdi]

Thank you! Fauci lied to Congress. And he has admitted to lying to the American people in telling them that masks which we now beat people up for not wearing and, more importantly, could have protected the American people from COVID and the spread of the pandemic, were not effective in protecting people.

And now we have him lying to Congress regarding the origins of a virus that has taken probably 20 million human lives. He should be removed from his position and face the appropriate legal consequences for lying to Congress. That is the truth.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[Howee]

[jammerbirdi]

So what we need across the board when it comes to all things COVID is accountability. I don’t see angry calls for accountability here on Rebkell’s. Accountability from all sectors and for all that has been done and said that was wrong or untrue by both administrations, many politicians, many nations, and a number of federally funded initiatives and private companies.

We are being called upon instead by our own president to turn on each other. Focus our attention now on the boogieman that stands on the other side of our political viewpoint. Who, as it happens, are simply Americans, some stupid and some crazy and many who are neither of those things, who have seen the inconsistencies and the guidelines that have been wrong or given disingenuously, and are, unlike people on our side, balking at the whole shit show. And we on our side are saying trust what our government tells us? Howee, don’t ever type the name Chris Hedges again.

God, don’t you guys remember just last year when Nancy Pelosi and others, including our good standard resource for information, Hollywood celebrities, said THEY wouldn’t take the “Trump vaccine” i.e. Phizer, Moderna, because it was rushed into existence by the Trump administration? Don’t you remember that? Please don’t get me started.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[FrozenLVFan]

[jammerbirdi]

Oh, so you say that the only people bringing any of this up should be ‘disenfranchised’ and we should be solely dependent on corporate controlled legacy mainstream media options as the public’s oniy source of information.

How would we accomplish such a crushing of free speech exactly?

What say you, Howee? Famous Chris Hedges devotee.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[FrozenLVFan]

[Howee]

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[mercfan3]

[jammerbirdi]

[jammerbirdi]

[jammerbirdi]

[jammerbirdi]

[Howee]

[Howee]

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Actually the "setback" has to do with acrylamide not being dangerous unless taken in megadoses. The court has had no problem with Prop 65's civil enforcement method.

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