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PostPosted: 05/18/20 10:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The loss of Augustus is what i feel will hurt them a lot this season . Her leadership in the back court will be missed.


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 11:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
The loss of Augustus is what i feel will hurt them a lot this season . Her leadership in the back court will be missed.


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Augusuts was a non-factor on the court last year, which most likely reflects that she was held back by playing for a lousy head coach on a pathetic franchise, and now that she, for the first time her career, is playing for a great head coach and a team with a winning culture, in Derek Fischer and the Sparks, she'll look like the superstar she actually is and probably win Most Improved Player.


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 11:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

star power breakdown

star (top player 1st option/all-star type)..... kind of stars (up and coming star or top level veteran or simply the next couple of best players on any given team)

Washington EDD, Messeman, Charles......Atkins, Cloud, Powers

LV Cambage, Wilson, McBride.....McCoughtry, Plum, Hamby

LA Gray, N. Ogwumike, Parker, Toliver.....C. Ogwumike, Sykes, Williams, Augustus, Vadeeva

Seattle Stewart, Howard.....Loyd, Bird, Clark,

Conn J. Jones, A. Thomas, Bonner......J. Thomas, January

PX Griner, Taurasi, Diggins-Smith.....Breland, Hartley

Chicago Sloot, Deshields.....Quigley, Dolson, Lavender, Ch. Parker

Atl Hayes, C. Williams.....Carter, GloJo, E. Will

Minn Collier, Fowles, (Sims).....Brown, Johnson,

Indy McCowan, Wheeler, Dupree.....K. Mitchell, T. Mitchell, Cox

Dallas Ogunbowale.....Sabally, Jefferson, Harrison, Gray

NY Ionescu, Nurse....Durr, Johannes, Clarendon


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 12:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
The loss of Augustus is what i feel will hurt them a lot this season . Her leadership in the back court will be missed.


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Augusuts was a non-factor on the court last year, which most likely reflects that she was held back by playing for a lousy head coach on a pathetic franchise, and now that she, for the first time her career, is playing for a great head coach and a team with a winning culture, in Derek Fischer and the Sparks, she'll look like the superstar she actually is and probably win Most Improved Player.


When i say leadership , theirs no doubt in my mind Mone was the vocal leader of the team .



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PostPosted: 05/18/20 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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When i say leadership , theirs no doubt in my mind Mone was the vocal leader of the team .


If a player is well-past their prime/washed-up (I have no idea if Augustus is that or not, but usually if a player leaves the Lynx, that means they are a superstar in/entering their prime) then I think that's overrated. New players can become leaders.


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PostPosted: 05/18/20 2:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
When i say leadership , theirs no doubt in my mind Mone was the vocal leader of the team .


If a player is well-past their prime/washed-up (I have no idea if Augustus is that or not, but usually if a player leaves the Lynx, that means they are a superstar in/entering their prime) then I think that's overrated. New players can become leaders.



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PostPosted: 05/18/20 2:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
When i say leadership , theirs no doubt in my mind Mone was the vocal leader of the team .


If a player is well-past their prime/washed-up (I have no idea if Augustus is that or not, but usually if a player leaves the Lynx, that means they are a superstar in/entering their prime) then I think that's overrated. New players can become leaders.



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The Lynx have several underrated players like Dantas and Lexie Brown, so they should be decent if last years' lottery teams are still at least a year away, but considering the Lynx have underachieved every year the past decaede, I don't know what to expect.


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PostPosted: 05/19/20 5:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
star power breakdown

star (top player 1st option/all-star type)..... kind of stars (up and coming star or top level veteran or simply the next couple of best players on any given team)

Washington EDD, Messeman, Charles......Atkins, Cloud, Powers

LV Cambage, Wilson, McBride.....McCoughtry, Plum, Hamby

LA Gray, N. Ogwumike, Parker, Toliver.....C. Ogwumike, Sykes, Williams, Augustus, Vadeeva

Seattle Stewart, Howard.....Loyd, Bird, Clark,

Conn J. Jones, A. Thomas, Bonner......J. Thomas, January

PX Griner, Taurasi, Diggins-Smith.....Breland, Hartley

Chicago Sloot, Deshields.....Quigley, Dolson, Lavender, Ch. Parker

Atl Hayes, C. Williams.....Carter, GloJo, E. Will

Minn Collier, Fowles, (Sims).....Brown, Johnson,

Indy McCowan, Wheeler, Dupree.....K. Mitchell, T. Mitchell, Cox

Dallas Ogunbowale.....Sabally, Jefferson, Harrison, Gray

NY Ionescu, Nurse....Durr, Johannes, Clarendon


If you are going to mention McBride as a star then Loyd belongs there too tbh



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PostPosted: 05/28/20 12:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/29229675/how-wnba-rosters-look-tuesday-cut-downs?platform=amp

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If and when the 2020 WNBA season takes place, there will be a lot of new in New York. As league rosters were trimmed down to no more than 12 players Tuesday, the Liberty stand out for keeping all six of their rookies, led by No. 1 pick Sabrina Ionescu of Oregon.


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We don't know yet when we might see these teams on the court. But here's a quick look at what stands out about their rosters.


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PostPosted: 06/28/20 5:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.vegasinsider.com/wnba/odds/futures/




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PostPosted: 06/28/20 5:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
https://www.vegasinsider.com/wnba/odds/futures/


As a total ignoramus on it, can someone give me instructions on how a basement-dwellar from Minnesota is supposed to be able to bet on sports?


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PostPosted: 06/28/20 6:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As of now, Phoenix & Seattle are my top 2 as it looks like they may be at full strength(no opt-outs). Vegas is questionable as we don't know if Cambage is coming over yet. Chicago is probably #3 even if Colson & Lavender opt-out. The Sparks still look good despite no Toliver(or Chiney). Mystics are still questionable based on Delle Donne's status. The rest of the field is a jumbled mess.

1. Seattle
2. Phoenix
3. Chicago
4. Los Angeles
5. Washington
6. Atlanta
7. Las Vegas
8. Indiana
9. Minnesota
10. Connecticut
11. New York
12. Dallas



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PostPosted: 06/28/20 8:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.vegasinsider.com/wnba/odds/futures/


As a total ignoramus on it, can someone give me instructions on how a basement-dwellar from Minnesota is supposed to be able to bet on sports?


I think the only way is to be in Las Vegas or Reno and go to a casino that accepts sports bets.


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PostPosted: 06/29/20 8:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
As of now, Phoenix & Seattle are my top 2 as it looks like they may be at full strength(no opt-outs). Vegas is questionable as we don't know if Cambage is coming over yet. Chicago is probably #3 even if Colson & Lavender opt-out. The Sparks still look good despite no Toliver(or Chiney). Mystics are still questionable based on Delle Donne's status. The rest of the field is a jumbled mess.

1. Seattle
2. Phoenix
3. Chicago
4. Los Angeles
5. Washington
6. Atlanta
7. Las Vegas
8. Indiana
9. Minnesota
10. Connecticut
11. New York
12. Dallas


I really hate seeing people put NY in front of Dallas Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 06/29/20 2:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Power rankings are meaningless prior to the start of the season. No one knows how well teams will play until after the season starts.



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PostPosted: 06/29/20 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
Power rankings are meaningless prior to the start of the season. No one knows how well teams will play until after the season starts.


Agreed , but i have a hard time believing we will finish below the liberty. Heck i have a hard time beliveing were going to finish below the Lynx for that matter.

Jefferson
Ogunbowale
Thornton
Sabally
Ndour

Not a bad bunch .

Gray
Harrison
Harris
Arie
Gustaffson
KLS
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PostPosted: 06/29/20 2:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.vegasinsider.com/wnba/odds/futures/


As a total ignoramus on it, can someone give me instructions on how a basement-dweller from Minnesota is supposed to be able to bet on sports?


There is now legalized sports betting in Iowa, including mobile wagering. While specifics vary from state to state, generally rules require that in order to make bets you must first open a wagering account in person at a casino (and deposit money), even if you are a non-resident, and then you will be able to make bets with your phone when you are in Iowa. The sports books use geolocation on your phone tp make sure you are in state.

Depending on how close you are to the border this might be an option.

Here is a link for more info

https://www.playusa.com/iowa/sports-betting/


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PostPosted: 06/29/20 3:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
https://www.vegasinsider.com/wnba/odds/futures/



While Vegas Insider is generally a wonderful site for odds they do not a do a good job of updating futures odds. The current odds, which have been adjusted for players that have opted out, are:

Las Vegas 3/1
Washington 7/2
Seattle 4/1
Connecticut 9/2
Phoenix 13/2
Los Angeles 7/1
Chicago 20/1
Minnesota 30/1
New York 40/1
Indiana 60/1
Dallas 100/1
Atlanta 150/1

The Connecticut odds are strange, but since you cannot bet the other side there is really no risk for the sports book. The Las Vegas odds are a little lower than they should be (I believe) because of Las Vegas sports bettors.

I will be starting my 2020 WNBA betting thread in about 2 weeks once there is more information on training camps and additional opt outs.


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PostPosted: 06/29/20 3:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76, what stops you from going to one of the many, many, many gambling websites that are available over here and betting on them? Do they not work from US IP addresses (although a VPN could get round that fairly easily)? Or do US credit cards not work to set up an account? Or is it literally just that you can do it but it would be illegal to do so?

Honestly intrigued by how the US gets around the fact that a huge percentage of gambling is now done online.



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PostPosted: 06/29/20 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don’t want this to be turned into a betting fanatics thread. Since nobody else was doing power rankings at the moment, I thought I’d post how Vegas was ranking them. If you’re obsessed with betting, make your own thread.



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The games haven't even started and Shades is already in midseason form.



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PostPosted: 06/30/20 12:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Voepel must have noticed me grumbling about a lack of power rankings.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/29388073/2020-wnba-power-rankings-seattle-storm-replace-washington-mystics-no-1

1. Seattle Storm
2 Los Angeles Sparks
3. Washington Mystics
4. Las Vegas Aces
5. Connecticut Sun
6. Phoenix Mercury
7. Chicago Sky
8. Minnesota Lynx
9. Indiana Fever
10. Atlanta Dream
11. Dallas Wings
12. New York Liberty

Finally somebody agreeing with me about NYL.
New coach, questionable system, questionable draft, 7 rookies.
Anything above last place may be the story of the year.

How are the Aces not #1? Voepel has them #4 even with her factoring in Cambage as coming over. Is she that Plum crazy?

Storm seem like a fragile team. Not sure they can keep it all together for a championship.



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PostPosted: 06/30/20 12:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Voepel must have noticed me grumbling about a lack of power rankings.


Obviously no one would have ever thought of power rankings if you hadn't said something. Thank you so much.


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How are the Aces not #1? Voepel has them #4 even with her factoring in Cambage as coming over. Is she that Plum crazy?

Storm seem like a fragile team. Not sure they can keep it all together for a championship.


Losing Plum means McBride is their only proven consistent 3-point shoote, so they'll need Bentley, Rodgers, others, to step up, bounce back, etc.

The Storm still have the greatest winner in WNBA History/the GOAT in Natasha Howard, so they have to win more championships to fufill Reeve having made sure the Storm (if not every other team in the WNBA) end up with more titles than the Lynx.


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PostPosted: 06/30/20 1:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Obviously no one would have ever thought of power rankings if you hadn't said something. Thank you so much.


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