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| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? 
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Not that simple. I have some very loved friends living in Texas. I don't hate Texas or Texans. I particularly have enjoyed visiting San Antonio. I have particularly not liked visiting Houston. Dallas is fairly neutral. That is all irrelevant.
But in a year where there is no clear #1 why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Well, since it seems to be almost impossible to get any of the top vets to sign with Dallas, we have no other option to get a big, and I for one, have no issue with selecting Collier at #1 or #15 for that matter....what's the worst thing that can happen for us that hasn't already???
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Not that simple. I have some very loved friends living in Texas. I don't hate Texas or Texans. I particularly have enjoyed visiting San Antonio. I have particularly not liked visiting Houston. Dallas is fairly neutral. That is all irrelevant.
But in a year where there is no clear #1 why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Well, since it seems to be almost impossible to get any of the top vets to sign with Dallas, we have no other option to get a big, and I for one, have no issue with selecting Collier at #1 or #15 for that matter....what's the worst thing that can happen for us that hasn't already??? |
Cue Collier being a diva because she wants out in 2025 lol
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| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? |
agree. They can take both and get help in other areas with their other two picks. It's too bad for Dallas that this is a pretty weak draft but there still should be some help. I'm happy for them that they re-signed Gray and Thornton, two of my most favorite players.
As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there.
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Not that simple. I have some very loved friends living in Texas. I don't hate Texas or Texans. I particularly have enjoyed visiting San Antonio. I have particularly not liked visiting Houston. Dallas is fairly neutral. That is all irrelevant.
But in a year where there is no clear #1 why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Well, since it seems to be almost impossible to get any of the top vets to sign with Dallas, we have no other option to get a big, and I for one, have no issue with selecting Collier at #1 or #15 for that matter....what's the worst thing that can happen for us that hasn't already??? |
Cue Collier being a diva because she wants out in 2025 lol |
Don't jynx us...you know how our luck is 😪
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| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? |
agree. They can take both and get help in other areas with their other two picks. It's too bad for Dallas that this is a pretty weak draft but there still should be some help. I'm happy for them that they re-signed Gray and Thornton, two of my most favorite players.
As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there. |
No, it's not the same! I've been here over 17yrs now and have met very few people who are fans of or supports UT.
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| myrtle wrote: |
| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? |
agree. They can take both and get help in other areas with their other two picks. It's too bad for Dallas that this is a pretty weak draft but there still should be some help. I'm happy for them that they re-signed Gray and Thornton, two of my most favorite players.
As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there. |
No, it's not the same! I've been here over 17yrs now and have met very few people who are fans of or supports UT.
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| As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there. |
No, it's not the same! I've been here over 17yrs now and have met very few people who are fans of or supports UT. |
For Oregon and Oregon State, it also helps that A) they're the only major schools in the state, so it's more natural for Portland being the biggest city to have some school fanbases living there, and B) each university is only about a 1.5-hr drive from Portland, almost entirely along I-5 – much less than a 3.5-hr drive. Cities & towns in Texas are simply much more spread out from each other.
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| myrtle wrote: |
| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? |
agree. They can take both and get help in other areas with their other two picks. It's too bad for Dallas that this is a pretty weak draft but there still should be some help. I'm happy for them that they re-signed Gray and Thornton, two of my most favorite players.
As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there. |
No, it's not the same! I've been here over 17yrs now and have met very few people who are fans of or supports UT. |
That’s strange. I know quite a few UT fans/graduates that live in the Dallas area. I wanna say the Dallas chapter of the UT alumni association is one of the largest. Nonetheless, Collier herself said she got tons of notifications from people in her life once it was announced Dallas had the #1 pick. So I’m sure she’d have a fair share of support.
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| myrtle wrote: |
| What I meant was Dallas is in the state of Texas. Collier is a star at Texas. Therefore, in a draft where there is no clear #1 ... why wouldn't you take a local player? I don't particularly like her as a #1 but obviously I'm in the minority. |
Funny enough, Natasha Mack's listed hometown (Lufkin, TX – about a 3.5-hr drive from Arlington) is actually closer to the Wings' organization/arena than Charli Collier's listed hometown (Mont Belvieu, TX – about a 4.5-hr drive from Arlington).
Although, there's also the argument that some of the Texas WBB fanbase would travel to see Collier play for the Wings. Still, Austin is also 3+ hours away from Arlington, so if any of them were to make the drive, it probably wouldn't be regularly.
At any rate, Dallas still holds both Top-2 picks. As the girl in that one taco commercial says, ¿Por qué no los dos? |
agree. They can take both and get help in other areas with their other two picks. It's too bad for Dallas that this is a pretty weak draft but there still should be some help. I'm happy for them that they re-signed Gray and Thornton, two of my most favorite players.
As far as travel, I'm guessing that there is also a substantial UTex fan base in Dallas, but maybe that's just based on my knowledge about Oregon, where the two schools both have statewide support. There are quite a few more universities in Texas so maybe it's not the same there. |
No, it's not the same! I've been here over 17yrs now and have met very few people who are fans of or supports UT. |
That’s strange. I know quite a few UT fans/graduates that live in the Dallas area. I wanna say the Dallas chapter of the UT alumni association is one of the largest. Nonetheless, Collier herself said she got tons of notifications from people in her life once it was announced Dallas had the #1 pick. So I’m sure she’d have a fair share of support. |
I guess you know more than I do because I can count on one hand the number of people who cares one way or the other about the University of Texas and it's sports programs!
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2021 Nancy Lieberman Award (PG) Finalists
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DiDi Richards Baylor
Paige Bueckers Connecticut (FR) eligible for early entry in 2023
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Rhyne Howard Kentucky (JR)
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Rennia Davis Tennessee
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I am amazed Didi Richards is a point guard. I saw her guarding Ionescu and thought they were using an athletic small forward for defense.
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I am amazed Didi Richards is a point guard. I saw her guarding Ionescu and thought they were using an athletic small forward for defense. |
That was actually true last year. Richards was the small forward, Te'a Cooper and Juicy Landrum were the guards.
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Prior to last year, the draft typically aired for one hour on ESPN2 before dropping down to ESPNU for the conclusion. |
Draft being re-confirmed for an April 15 date, with more specifics on time and network – as things stand now, of course. That would be six weeks from today...
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Oh, so we won't have to change channels to get the "we stopped doing research/caring" portion of the program this year.
Pardon my cynicism, but the way the bottom 60% of the draft gets treated by ESPN- talked over, ignored, reduced to a flash on the ticker and gone- is an absolute berserk button for me.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
and the answer is always the same...IMO. Those girls drafted in the third round have a much better chance of playing overseas. So it is a benefit to those drafted. So...why not?
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
and the answer is always the same...IMO. Those girls drafted in the third round have a much better chance of playing overseas. So it is a benefit to those drafted. So...why not? |
Cuz like I’ve said, that’s a downright bizarre main reason to continue to have a 3rd round from the WNBA’s perspective. Especially considering how many European Leagues amongst other ones halfway around the globe hold seasons that run right into the start of (or tail-end of) the W's season, where players so often have to arrive late to their W team’s training camp and hold their team back by having to play catch-up within the team’s system. And besides: don’t teams still offer extra money to players if they don’t play overseas? By all indications, the WNBA would prefer if their players don't play overseas – and logically so.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
and the answer is always the same...IMO. Those girls drafted in the third round have a much better chance of playing overseas. So it is a benefit to those drafted. So...why not? |
Cuz like I’ve said, that’s a downright bizarre main reason to continue to have a 3rd round from the WNBA’s perspective. Especially considering how many European Leagues amongst other ones halfway around the globe hold seasons that run right into the start of (or tail-end of) the W's season, where players so often have to arrive late to their W team’s training camp and hold their team back by having to play catch-up within the team’s system. And besides: don’t teams still offer extra money to players if they don’t play overseas? By all indications, the WNBA would prefer if their players don't play overseas – and logically so. |
Except it is the Euro teams that offer the money. Some years ago DT Russian team paid her entire WNBA salary just so she wouldn't play. The WNBA has no money and they are restricted by a salary cap.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
and the answer is always the same...IMO. Those girls drafted in the third round have a much better chance of playing overseas. So it is a benefit to those drafted. So...why not? |
Cuz like I’ve said, that’s a downright bizarre main reason to continue to have a 3rd round from the WNBA’s perspective. Especially considering how many European Leagues amongst other ones halfway around the globe hold seasons that run right into the start of (or tail-end of) the W's season, where players so often have to arrive late to their W team’s training camp and hold their team back by having to play catch-up within the team’s system. And besides: don’t teams still offer extra money to players if they don’t play overseas? By all indications, the WNBA would prefer if their players don't play overseas – and logically so. |
Except it is the Euro teams that offer the money. Some years ago DT Russian team paid her entire WNBA salary just so she wouldn't play. The WNBA has no money and they are restricted by a salary cap. |
That... only seems to support the notion that the WNBA isn't (or at the very least, shouldn't be) in the business of helping prospective players find overseas work in adversarial Leagues.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
It's a good way to get cheap local pop. One year when I was contributing to the Women's Hoops Blog, I did a draft round-up linking articles on every player drafted. Okay, so I couldn't get one on the third-round pick from Russia, so sue me.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
The CBA mandates a three round draft, so it's not shortening any time soon.
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| I know I have discussed this before but I would like to see the WNBA go to a two round draft. The majority of the players that make it in the league are drafted in the first two rounds. It would benefit everyone to eliminate the third round. The NBA has a lot more teams and they only have a two round draft. |
and the answer is always the same...IMO. Those girls drafted in the third round have a much better chance of playing overseas. So it is a benefit to those drafted. So...why not? |
Cuz like I’ve said, that’s a downright bizarre main reason to continue to have a 3rd round from the WNBA’s perspective. Especially considering how many European Leagues amongst other ones halfway around the globe hold seasons that run right into the start of (or tail-end of) the W's season, where players so often have to arrive late to their W team’s training camp and hold their team back by having to play catch-up within the team’s system. And besides: don’t teams still offer extra money to players if they don’t play overseas? By all indications, the WNBA would prefer if their players don't play overseas – and logically so. |
Except it is the Euro teams that offer the money. Some years ago DT Russian team paid her entire WNBA salary just so she wouldn't play. The WNBA has no money and they are restricted by a salary cap. |
That... only seems to support the notion that the WNBA isn't (or at the very least, shouldn't be) in the business of helping prospective players find overseas work in adversarial Leagues. |
except, as is well known, those third round prospects are 99% not going to find a home here in the wnba, so it's simply giving them a better chance at continuing their basketball career...overseas.
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