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PostPosted: 05/26/20 1:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
I find it kind of interesting to watch someone who has glued themselves to a particular agenda.


I find the intentional spread of misinformation to be dangerous.


I can only speak for myself. I’m already wrestling with whether to clean up what I think really needs to be taken off here.

Till then. Don't attack each other. Don't troll. Don't create an atmosphere here that's hostile to varying perspectives.

As far as misinformation. I don't even trust the New York Times or the Washington Post. I don't trust my mayor, governor, or president. I don’t trust my fellow citizens to get any of this right. So, needless to say, I don't recommend people trust everything they read on Area freaking 51 on archaic Rebkells with 25 people tops populating this forum.

Don't act on it. Don't live your life according to it. And don't hurt yourselves.

Because you believed something you read in Glenn's thread.



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PostPosted: 05/26/20 9:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:


The voice of the people . . . .


Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri




Ocean City, Maryland




Cocoa Beach, Florida




Venice Beach, California



Should anyone feel sorry if any of these people die from COVID-19?




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PostPosted: 05/26/20 11:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

One thing is for certain, based on what we saw this weekend, a lot of the really big questions will be answered in the next few weeks.



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PostPosted: 05/26/20 12:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Genero36 wrote:

Should anyone feel sorry if any of these people die from COVID-19?


Problem is it’s not just them who are affected. They’re providing a big breeding ground for the virus, which hurts everybody.



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PostPosted: 05/26/20 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Problem is it’s not them who are affected. They’re providing a big breeding ground for the virus, which hurts everybody.


I know but them being asymptomatic doesn't mean they will be later. If these specific people (at these beaches) acquire the virus, there shouldn't be a ventilator in sight for them.



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PostPosted: 05/26/20 7:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Great reviews on the China virus. Pity the great work was obscured by this dang flu that's going around. 6-digit death toll now.



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Update 76: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 18,611 (1.1%) from 1,662,302 to 1,680,913
- deaths increased by 682 (0.7%) from 98,220 to 98,902
- death rate decreased from 5.91% to 5.88%

For the past three days the U.S. has not been world leader in daily deaths. Brazil has. And the U.S. has had three consecutive days of triple digit deaths for the first time since the end of March.

U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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According to an updated analysis, at least 43% of U.S. CV19 deaths are from nursing homes while only 0.6% of the population (2.1 million people) reside in nursing homes.

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And 43% could be an undercount. States like New York exclude from their nursing home death tallies those who die in a hospital, even if they were originally infected in an assisted living facility. Outside of New York, more than half of all deaths from COVID-19 are of residents in long-term care facilities.


What an astonishingly laser-targeted disease! Being fought with blunderbuss lockdowns of the untargeted!!

Here is the share of each state's CV19 deaths attributable to nursing homes. Note how artificially low New York State looks.



Here are the same state data normalized on a per capita basis, which gives a more accurate picture of how successfully each state has protected its nursing home residents (or concealed their deaths).




PARTHIAN SHOT: Stay out of nursing homes in the northeast and mid-Atlantic states.
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One concern re opening up the economy "too soon" (whatever that means) is that asymptomatic carriers may infect the rest of the population (whyever that is bad).

Earlier this month, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) published the results of a study of 455 people, identified through contact tracing, who had some degree of contact with one asymptomatic carrier. The conclusions:

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Infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. Effective prevention and control measures are helpful to prevent COVID-19 spread of asymptomatic carriers. The result of this study may alleviate parts of the public concern about asymptomatic infected people.

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WSJ: More People Are Taking Drugs for Anxiety and Insomnia, and Doctors Are Worried

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Express Scripts, a pharmacy benefit manager owned by Cigna, says prescriptions for anti-anxiety medications rose 34.1% between mid-February and mid-March, while prescriptions for antidepressants and sleep medications increased 18.6% and 14.8%, respectively.

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And in romantic Italy, the home lockdowns have increased petitions for divorce by 30%, according to Corriere della Sera (translated by Chrome).
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PostPosted: 05/26/20 10:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
If Covid science experts would admit it, the truth would set us free . . . .


Oh, absolutely. THEY were the ones who bamboozled the masses by declaring that, at 15 deaths, this would all end by April, and proclaiming with uber-confidence that drinking bleach could solve everything. The idiots....if only they had listened to The Stable Genius, who knew the ACTUAL and Gospel Truth.

Rolling Eyes The very idiocy. Laughing Laughing Laughing



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I like how fatality overcounting becomes undercounting when it suits the agenda du jour.



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Luuuc wrote:
I like how fatality overcounting becomes undercounting when it suits the agenda du jour.


The argument for overall fatality overcounting is that individuals that tested positive for Covid-19 had other problems as well, but the Covid-19 is generally considered the cause of death. The argument for undercounting is that many people who died without having been tested are not counted as Covid-19 deaths (new York City did classify approximately 3500 deaths as Covid-19 for people who were presumed to have the disease).

In the final analysis, the best estimate is most likely a review of actual deaths over expected, in much the same way that estimates from Puerto Rico's hurricane were done. That shows an undercount of 20-40% depending on the assumptions made.


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'Terrifying': Lake of Ozarks worker must return to job, but fears virus in crowds

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But if she went back to work as a server, she risked bringing coronavirus home to her father, who has multiple sclerosis.

“I have to choose between going to work and making an income or basically refusing to work and quitting my job and staying with him and keeping him safe,” Lynch said of her father. “I’m not in a position where I can’t make an income at all.”


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She’s concerned area businesses, including her employer, are letting too many people in. She recalled the first time the restaurant got really busy Friday.

Everyone seemed to say “so much for social distancing” she said.

“We’re not having any type of capacity hold at all, so it worries me that I’m being put in a position that’s not safe,” Lynch said, adding that the crowd inside would swell each time it began to rain, driving people indoors.

As of Tuesday, nearly 12,300 Missourians have been infected with the virus. More than 680 have died.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/terrifying-lake-of-ozarks-worker-must-return-to-job-but-fears-virus-in-crowds/ar-BB14F2X6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout



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A big problem in LA is underground parties at mansions in the Hollywood Hills and canyons of Beverly Hills, etc. Hundreds of people crowding on to these properties.



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Update 77: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 18,263 (1.1%) from 1,680,913 to 1,699,176
- deaths increased by 1,516 (1.5%) from 98,902 to 100,418
- death rate increased from 5.88% to 5.91%

Over 100 deaths today from, in descending order, Illinois, NJ, PA, CA and NY. Maybe some backlog from the holiday weekend.

U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Instead of more CV19 cacophonous voodoo . . . er . . . science and data, today I would like to recognize the common sense words of an unknown county judge in Illinois, who ruled from the bench in favor of a small business owner against the lockdowns of Governor Pritzger, eloquently saying:

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Since the inception of this insanity, the following regulations, rules or consequences have occurred: I won’t get COVID if I get an abortion but I will get COVID if I get a colonoscopy. Selling pot is essential but selling goods and services at a family-owned business is not. Pot wasn’t even legal and pot dispensaries didn’t even exist in this state until five months ago and, in that five months, they have become essential but a family-owned business in existence for five generations is not.

A family of six can pile in their car and drive to Carlyle Lake without contracting COVID but, if they all get in the same boat, they will. We are told that kids rarely contract the virus and sunlight kills it, but summer youth programs, sports programs are cancelled. Four people can drive to the golf course and not get COVID but, if they play in a foursome, they will. If I go to Walmart, I won’t get COVID but, if I go to church, I will. Murderers are released from custody while small business owners are threatened with arrest if they have the audacity to attempt to feed their families.

These are just a few of examples of rules, regulations and consequences that are arbitrary, capricious, and completely devoid of anything even remotely approaching common sense.

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The defendant in this case [Governor Pritzger] orders you to stay home and pronounces that, if you leave the state, you are putting people in danger, but his family members traveled to Florida and Wisconsin because he deems such travel essential. One initial rationale why the rules don’t apply to him is that his family farm had animals that needed [to be] fed. Try selling that argument to farmers who have had to slaughter their herds because of disruption in the supply chain.

When laws do not apply to those who make them, people are not being governed, they are being ruled. Make no mistake, these executive orders are not laws. They are royal decrees. Illinois citizens are not being governed, they are being ruled. The last time I checked Illinois citizens are also Americans and Americans don’t get ruled. The last time a monarch tried to rule Americans, a shot was fired that was heard around the world. That day led to the birth of a nation consensually governed based upon a document which ensures that on this day in this, [or] any American courtroom tyrannical despotism will always lose and liberty, freedom and the Constitution will always win.

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Update 78: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 22,303 (1.3%) from 1,699,176 to 1,721,479
- deaths increased by 1,179 (1.2%) from 100,418 to 101,597
- death rate decreased from 5.91% to 5.90%

Five deadliest states today: IL 103, PA 103, NY 100, MA 93, CA 84

U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Some CV19 data relate to political demographics, so let's look at some recent studies and opinions on that issue.

--> Pew Research: Coronavirus death toll is heavily concentrated in Democratic congressional districts

Quote:
The places hit hardest by the coronavirus outbreak – which have relatively large shares of ethnic and racial minorities and residents living in densely populated urban and suburban areas – are almost all represented by congressional Democrats.

A new Pew Research Center analysis . . . finds that, as of last week, nearly a quarter of all the deaths in the United States attributed to the coronavirus have been in just 12 congressional districts – all located in New York City and represented by Democrats in Congress. Of the more than 92,000 Americans who had died of COVID-19 as of May 20 (the date that the data in this analysis was collected), nearly 75,000 were in Democratic congressional districts.




So, how will this lopsided CV19 political demographic affect reopening? The Wall Street Journal has an opinion.

--> WSJ: The Blue State Lockdown Blues - The slow reopening in liberal states will hurt the national recovery.

Quote:
. . . it’s worth noting that the states opening most slowly are big states run by Democrats that represent something like a third of the U.S. economy. This means a slower recovery for those states and the U.S.


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Nearly two-thirds of leisure and hospitality jobs in New York and New Jersey and about half in California and Illinois disappeared between February and April compared to 43% in Florida, which was among the last states to lock down and first to reopen. . . . Four percent of construction workers in Florida lost their jobs compared to 41% in New York, 27% in New Jersey, 17% in California and 11% in Illinois.


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. . . California, New York, Illinois and New Jersey make up 30% of the national economy, so their business carnage will affect farmers, meat processors, truckers, manufacturers and suppliers nationwide.

Even while forcing non-essential private businesses to shut down, most of these governors aren’t asking public unions for sacrifices. Three times more health-care workers in New York and New Jersey have lost jobs than have government employees.


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Mr. Cuomo said over the weekend that New York’s economy won’t “bounce back” quickly and will need federal help. Yet the same states that are loudest in demanding a federal rescue have hurt themselves the most with long, strict lockdowns and tax-and-spend policies.

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San Jose Mercury News: Editorial: Newsom’s failed response to COVID-19 nursing home deaths - At least 41% of California coronavirus deaths from eldercare facilities, and cases there are increasing rapidly

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Gov. Gavin Newsom is recklessly pushing to place more coronavirus patients in nursing homes and assisted living facilities while COVID-19 cases and deaths are mounting rapidly in California’s care residences for the elderly.

. . . . The state refuses to release any data about deaths at specific nursing and assisted living homes.

And, citing privacy, it will only provide the number of coronavirus cases for homes with 11 or more cases — an arbitrary cutoff point that ignores the size of the facility or the fact that no names are being sought. The administration has refused to provide a rational explanation for the policy.

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Update 79: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 24,451 (1.4%) from 1,721,479 to 1,745,930
- deaths increased by 1,211 (1.2%) from 101,597 to 102,808
- death rate decreased from 5.90% to 5.89%

Five deadliest states today: NJ 124, NY 98, CA 98, IL 84, MA 78

U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.





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A manuscript just published in the American Journal of Epidemiology by a Yale professor of epidemiology, titled Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, asserts that inpatient studies are not relevant to the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine for outpatients, and recommends that the medication be widely available for physicians to prescribe to outpatients immediately.

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Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media . . . . Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. . . . These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe.

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From the Lone Ranger Flip-Flop Department:

--> In early March Dr. Anthony Fauci told “60 Minutes” there was no need to wear a face mask. Then on April 5th he said the "major reason" to wear a mask is not to infect others. Then on May 12th he said wearing face masks in public should be a "very regular part" of preventing infection. Now, this week he says a face mask is a "symbol". Finally, the W.H.O. website says, "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19 . . . . [or] if you are coughing or sneezing."

IS THAT ALL PERFECTLY CLEAR to those of you who want to follow the experts and science?

--> Fauci also said this week that a second wave of CV19 is "not inevitable", whereas just four weeks ago he said it is. GOT THAT TOO?
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Illinois Governor Pritzger not only lost the constitutional lawsuit brought by a small business man, in an opinion I quoted at length two days ago, he now has dropped all restrictions on churches because multiple church lawsuits, supported by medical testimony, compelling accused him of "ignoring the best science".
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From the Swedish Envy Department:

Norway 'could have controlled infection without lockdown': health chief

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The head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health believes Norway could have brought the coronavirus pandemic under control without a lockdown, and called for the country to avoid such far-reaching measures if hit by a second wave.

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According to an AP-NORC survey conducted in May, only 49% of Americans, overall, say they would take a Covid-19 vaccine if it is developed, and that figure drops to 40% for those under 60, 25% for Blacks, 37% for Hispanics, 43% for Republicans, and 31% for Independents.

Even though I am in the high risk age category, I wouldn't take any first round vaccine, especially one that has been rushed through human testing.
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Reb's Flat Earther wrote:
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From the Lone Ranger Flip-Flop Department:
--> In early March Dr. Anthony Fauci told “60 Minutes” there was no need to wear a face mask. Then on April 5th he said the "major reason" to wear a mask is not to infect others. Then on May 12th he said wearing face masks in public should be a "very regular part" of preventing infection. Now, this week he says a face mask is a "symbol". Finally, the W.H.O. website says, "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19 . . . . [or] if you are coughing or sneezing."
IS THAT ALL PERFECTLY CLEAR to those of you who want to follow the experts and science?
--> Fauci also said this week that a second wave of CV19 is "not inevitable", whereas just four weeks ago he said it is. GOT THAT TOO?


From a clearly-operating mind: (Carl T. Bergstrom)
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We're far enough into this pandemic that I'm seeing something interesting happen. Epidemiologists start talking abut a new result, such as the NEJM paper on a high rate of asymptomatic positives presenting for delibery in NYC, and discussing what that means.

Then someone jumps in and accuses them of hypocrisy or incompetence. “You just said probably X, but 2 weeks ago you said probably not X. You're a fraud, just like all of you experts”

Here's the thing. These people are not doing science. In science, it's not hypocrisy to change your mind based on new evidence. It's literally the entire purpose of the enterprise.



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Update 80: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 23,846 (1.4%) from 1,745,930 to 1,769,776
- deaths increased by 960 (0.9%) from 102,808 to 103,768
- death rate decreased from 5.89% to 5.86%

Five deadliest states today: NJ 101, NY 78, CA 76, PA 67, IL 60

U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%
960 – 5/30 5.86%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Does the easing of lockdowns and social restrictions increase the spread of CV19? It's probably too early to say, but there are preliminary looks at the data.

--> ABC News looked at the first 21 states to ease restrictions: South Carolina, Montana, Georgia, Mississippi, South Dakota, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio. Here's the bottom line:

Quote:
Analyzing seven-day averages, there were no major increases in hospitalizations, deaths or percentage of people testing positive in any of the 21 states.


--> Denmark, Finland say they saw no increase in coronavirus after schools re-opened

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The Nordic countries of Denmark and Finland are reporting no increase in the spread of coronavirus since opening their respective schools, further suggesting that children are less likely to be sickened by COVID-19 and spread the virus.


As I reported here several weeks ago:

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Research over the last several months has continuously shown that children appear to be less at risk for becoming ill from COVID-19 and spreading it to others. Researchers in Australia, as well as the World Health Organization's chief scientist, eacn have said that children as a group are largely not responsible for spreading the coronavirus.

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The U.S. Census Bureau is doing weekly Household Pulse Surveys. I responded to one sent to me by email. Here are the results of the first survey:

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The first results from the new U.S. Census Bureau Household Pulse Survey released today show that many households have experienced loss in employment income, are concerned about food security, and have deferred decisions to access health care. . . .

Among the population of adults 18 and over, 47% either lost employment income or another adult in their household had lost employment income since March 13. . . .

About 10% of adults reported that they did not get enough of the food they needed some of the time or often. Another 32% report getting enough, but not the kinds of food they needed. . . .

. . . 38.7% of adults report that over the last four weeks, they delayed getting medical care because of the coronavirus pandemic.

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More from the Alice in Wonderland Experts & Science Department:

CDC Changes Its Tune About Antibody Testing

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The Center for Disease Control is now telling Americans to be cautious about believing antibody tests used to determine if a person was previously infected with the Wuhan coronavirus.
. . . .
Because the data is unreliable, the CDC says antibody testing shouldn't be relied upon to determine public policy decisions, like whether or not to reopen the economy or "grouping persons residing in or being admitted to congregate settings, such as schools, dormitories, or correctional facilities."

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Update 81: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 20,396 (1.2%) from 1,769,776 to 1,790,172
- deaths increased by 613 (0.6%) from 103,768 to 104,381
- crude death rate decreased from 5.86% to 5.83%

Five deadliest states today: NY 89, MA 78, NJ 74, IL 60, GA 49

Five deadliest countries today: USA 613, BRZ 480, MEX 364, IND 223, CAN 222


U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%
960 – 5/30 5.86%
613 – 5/31 5.83%




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From the Where's Carmen Science-diego Department:


--> The Pandemic Is Exposing the Limits of Science

Quote:
The 2008 financial crisis led the public to discover the limits of economics. The Covid-19 pandemic risks having the same effect on scientists and medical doctors.

Since the start of the outbreak, citizens have struggled to get clear answers to some basic questions. Consider masks [and] lockdowns . . . .

. . . scientists and medical doctors have struggled to convey a unified message to the public.

As the pandemic has shown, even the natural sciences struggle when faced with a new phenomenon. Research does not produce immediate answers. Scientists, doctors and public health experts should not be afraid to say clearly how much they do not yet know.



--> The U.K. Government has released the minutes of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings in the period leading up to the lockdown announcement on March 23rd. Former barrister Paul Chaplin has gone through the minutes in a lengthy blog post and concluded that placing the entire country under virtual house arrest was a political decision and not “based on the science”.

Lockdown Boris violated SAGE advice


--> The government of Denmark may also have deliberately ignored the advice of scientists not to lock down.

Quote:
Leaked emails between leading figures in Denmark's health authorities are raising questions over the extent to which Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen steam-rollered her own health experts at the time the country imposed its lockdown in mid-March.

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While asking for more, states are slow to spend virus aid

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Many states have yet to spend the federal funding they received more than a month ago to help with soaring costs related to the coronavirus crisis, complicating governors’ arguments that they need hundreds of billions more from U.S. taxpayers.

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There actually has been very little CV19 data coverage in the media the past few days, as they all seek more frantic clicks while hysterically reacting to and promoting the violence of left wing anarchists, thugs and criminals.
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Is does appear as though there were fewer deaths in May than in April.



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Update 82: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 21,188 (1.2%) from to 1,790,172 to 1,811,360
- deaths increased by 784 (0.6%) from 104,381 to 105,165
- crude death rate decreased from 5.83% to 5.81%

Five deadliest states today: MA 189, NY 70, OH 52, CA 47, GA 36

Five deadliest countries today: USA 784, BRZ 732, IND 200, RUS 162, MEX 151


U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%
960 – 5/30 5.86%
613 – 5/31 5.83%
784 – 6/01 5.81%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Some great news, IF true:

New coronavirus losing potency, top Italian doctor says

Quote:
The new coronavirus is losing its potency and has become much less lethal, a senior Italian doctor said on Sunday.

“In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy,” said Alberto Zangrillo, the head of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan in the northern region of Lombardy, which has borne the brunt of Italy’s coronavirus contagion.

“The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago,” he told RAI television.
. . . .
A second doctor from northern Italy told the national ANSA news agency that he was also seeing the coronavirus weaken.

“The strength the virus had two months ago is not the same strength it has today,” said Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at the San Martino hospital in the city of Genoa.


What would cause this? Mutation?
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The expert and scientific confusion continues. Doctors are now seriously questioning whether ventilators killed more patients than they saved.

Quote:
At the beginning of the pandemic, health officials were worried whether there would be a shortage of ventilators to intubate COVID patients with serious breathing and lung problems. But then discussion in the medical community turned to whether the machines were being overused and possibly contributing to a higher death rate.

“One theory is if you put some patients on a ventilator, you might irritate the lungs more. That’s a theory we’re looking at,” Dr. Thomas McGinn, Northwell’s senior vice president and deputy physician-in-chief, told The Post.


Ventilation was questioned in this thread six or eight weeks ago.
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Another medical incertitude that has been explored in this thread is the efficacy of lockdown sheltering indoors. A Harvard trained epidemiologist in Cyprus says:

Quote:
“In the case of population lockdown, people were forced to stay at home. However, once the virus was already spreading within the community, lockdown was literally forcing healthy individuals to stay in close contact with relatives that might have been exposed to the virus and were potentially spreading the virus at home.”

“In fact,” he went on, “I’m afraid it’s what eventually happened. Evidence from several country reports shows that about half of new infections were directly related to the lockdown.”
. . . .
Soteriades cites reports from across the world showing a high proportion of new infections originated from home environments.


Indoor propagation is consistent with the observations of Stanford Professor Jay Bhattacharya, three of whose YouTube interviews have been posted here.
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GlennMacGrady wrote:

Some great news, IF true:

New coronavirus losing potency, top Italian doctor says

Quote:
The new coronavirus is losing its potency and has become much less lethal, a senior Italian doctor said on Sunday.

“In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy,” said Alberto Zangrillo, the head of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan in the northern region of Lombardy, which has borne the brunt of Italy’s coronavirus contagion.

“The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago,” he told RAI television.
. . . .
A second doctor from northern Italy told the national ANSA news agency that he was also seeing the coronavirus weaken.

“The strength the virus had two months ago is not the same strength it has today,” said Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at the San Martino hospital in the city of Genoa.


What would cause this? Mutation?


As I posted in the other thread, the WHO made a statement today disputing this claim. But in the USA, the daily deaths have decreased more than daily cases. This isn't a huge gap and may be from other factors like the medical profession getting better at treating it. Or it could be because we have already wiped out large portions of our nursing homes and are getting better at keeping it out of the remaining ones.

But viruses are supposed to get weaker because, assuming there are more and less potent versions, the more potent versions are spread less because they keep their hosts from doing much and so can't be spread as much. If the asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 are in any part because that version of the virus isn't as potent, then that less potent version will be spread more than other versions since the host isn't aware that they have it and it isn't affecting their life at all.


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Update 83: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 20,446 (1.1%) from 1,811,360 to 1,831,806
- deaths increased by 1,105 (1.0%) from 105,165 to 106,180
- crude death rate decreased from 5.81% to 5.80%

Five deadliest states today: IL 113, PA 93, NY 90, CA 73, FL 70

Five deadliest countries today: BRZ 1232, USA 1105, UK 324, MEX 237, IND 221


U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%
960 – 5/30 5.86%
613 – 5/31 5.83%
784 – 6/01 5.81%
1105 – 6/02 5.80%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Other experts dispute that the virus has become less lethal, as two doctors from Italy reported here yesterday, but they just offer contrasting opinions and no competing data.

Quote:
The consensus among other experts interviewed Monday is that the clinical findings in Italy likely do not reflect any change in the virus itself.

Zangrillo’s clinical observations are more likely a reflection of the fact that with the peak of the outbreak long past, there is less virus in circulation, and people may be less likely to be exposed to high doses of it. In addition, only severely sick people were likely to be tested early on, compared with the situation now when even those with mild symptoms are more likely to get swabbed, experts said.

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A "superspreader" is an infected person who spreads the disease to lots of other people. (Think: Typhoid Mary.) A few infected people do this; most spread more sparely. CV has superspreaders, but the good news may be:

‘Superspreaders’ Could Actually Make Covid-19 Easier to Control

Quote:
These “superspreading” events have become a trademark of the new coronavirus — at first impression quite a scary one. But most people who get the disease don’t pass it on to dozens of others, and many don’t pass it on to anyone at all. One new global study estimates that about 10% of those infected with Covid-19 cause 80% of the secondary transmissions; another study focused on Israel puts that share between 1% and 10%. This imbalance explains a lot about why Covid-19 has spread so unevenly and unpredictably around the world. It also, perhaps counterintuitively, appears to make the disease easier to control than it would be if superspreaders weren’t so important.


Read the article to find out why . . . supposedly. Maybe.
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Why would anyone want to live in a big city?

Crime, riots, filth, traffic, pollution, noise, concrete, taxes, homeless vagrants, panhandlers, pickpockets, claustrophobia, enochlophobia, agoraphobia . . . and the breeding ground of epidemics.

So Where Did the Virus Come From?

A big city, naturally.

Quote:
Whatever the initial spark, what turned a brush fire into a global conflagration was city life. Viruses have erupted into human beings from contact with nature many times in the past. When more of the population lived in rural areas, hunted animals for food and foraged in forests for firewood, contact with bats would have been more frequent. But chains of infection in rural villages would have petered out.

Today, all it takes is one infected individual to go to a crowded market and cough on somebody who is about to travel to another country, and the world catches the disease. It is sure to happen again.

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Oh, give me a home where the buffalo roam, where the deer and the antelope play . . . .


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Update 84: Changes in 24 Hours since Last Update

U.S. (data sourced from Johns Hopkins website at ~11:30 pm EDT):
- confirmed cases increased by 19,714 (1.1%) from 1,831,806 to 1,851,520
- deaths increased by 995 (0.9%) from 106,180 to 107,175
- crude death rate decreased from 5.80% to 5.79%

Five deadliest states today: NJ 123, IL 96, NY 86, PA 77, MA 67

Five deadliest countries today: BRZ 1269, USA 995, MEX 470, UK 359, IND 259


U.S. deaths each day since March 11 and U.S. cumulative death rate on that day:

? – 3/11 2.89%
2 – 3/12 2.41%
7 – 3/13 2.16%
10 – 3/14 1.93%
12 – 3/15 1.83%
16 – 3/16 1.82%
23 – 3/17 1.70%
42 – 3/18 1.60%
55 – 3/19 1.44%
55 – 3/20 1.32%
76 – 3/21 1.26%
81 – 3/22 1.25%
169 – 3/23 1.26%
204 – 3/24 1.43%
251 – 3/25 1.50%
249 – 3/26 1.50%
412 – 3/27 1.63%
488 – 3/28 1.76%
303 – 3/29 1.75%
547 – 3/30 1.85%
860 – 3/31 2.06%
1216 – 4/01 2.37%
867 – 4/02 2.44%
1169 – 4/03 2.57%
1336 – 4/04 2.72%
1155 – 4/05 2.86%
1280 – 4/06 2.97%
1970 – 4/07 3.23%
1924 – 4/08 3.43%
1867 – 4/09 3.58%
2074 – 4/10 3.74%
1846 – 4/11 3.89%
1475 – 4/12 3.96%
1529 – 4/13 4.05%
2425 – 4/14 4.27%
4811 – 4/15 4.83%
2424 – 4/16 4.96%
3786 – 4/17 5.28%
1849 – 4/18 5.29%
1774 – 4/19 5.36%
1631 – 4/20 5.38%
2734 – 4/21 5.46%
1646 – 4/22 5.54%
3286 – 4/23 5.75%
1063 – 4/24 5.73%
2738 – 4/25 5.72%
1128 – 4/26 5.68%
1362 – 4/27 5.69%
2110 – 4/28 5.76%
2611 – 4/29 5.86%
2040 – 4/30 5.89%
1937 – 5/01 5.88%
1426 – 5/02 5.86%
1313 – 5/03 5.84%
1240 – 5/04 5.84%
2148 – 5/05 5.90%
2361 – 5/06 5.98%
2231 – 5/07 6.02%
1518 – 5/08 6.01%
1615 – 5/09 6.02%
730 – 5/10 5.98%
1157 – 5/11 6.00%
1674 – 5/12 6.01%
1736 – 5/13 6.05%
1779 – 5/14 6.06%
1632 – 5/15 6.07%
1224 – 5/16 6.05%
796 – 5/17 6.02%
790 – 5/18 5.99%
1581 – 5/19 6.02%
1518 – 5/20 6.02%
1263 – 5/21 6.00%
1277 – 5/22 5.99%
1108 – 5/23 5.98%
633 – 5/24 5.95%
500 – 5/25 5.91%
682 – 5/26 5.88%
1516 – 5/27 5.91%
1179 – 5/28 5.90%
1211 – 5/29 5.89%
960 – 5/30 5.86%
613 – 5/31 5.83%
784 – 6/01 5.81%
1105 – 6/02 5.80%
995 – 6/03 5.79%

Below are today's U.S. daily new cases and deaths in graph format from the Worldometer site, which has a different "day" and reports different daily numbers than Johns Hopkins.




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Three recent studies of potential CV19 therapeutics suggest that (1) hydroxychloroquine can produce dangerous heart arrhythmias, (2) that ACE inhibitors don't increase CV19 risk of death, and (3) that ivermectin, an antiparasitic drug, dramatically reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients. Now, all three studies are under review for validity because the underlying patient data from all of them was provided by a mysterious private company that no one knows anything about.

A mysterious company’s coronavirus papers in top medical journals may be unraveling

Quote:
But just as quickly, the Lancet results have begun to unravel—and Surgisphere, which provided patient data for two other high-profile COVID-19 papers, has come under withering online scrutiny from researchers and amateur sleuths.


This is science at its best: not a cathedral of consensus truth, but an ongoing methodology for challenging and falsifying tentative hypotheses about truth.
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A case study in India explored the benefit of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as a prophylactic preventative for healthcare workers. The conclusion was: "Consumption of four or more maintenance doses of HCQ was associated with a significant decline in the odds of getting infected . . . ."
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German Official Leaks Report Denouncing Corona as ‘A Global False Alarm’

Quote:
Germany’s federal government and mainstream media are engaged in damage control after a report that challenges the established Corona narrative leaked from the interior ministry.

Some of the report key passages are:

--> The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.

--> The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).

--> Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.

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Neil Ferguson whose grim warnings prompted Boris Johnson to order TOTAL LOCKDOWN admits Sweden may have suppressed Covid-19 to the same level but WITHOUT draconian measures

Quote:
The professor whose grim warning that 500,000 Brits may die from Covid-19 without action triggered lockdown has admitted Sweden may have suppressed its outbreak as well as Britain - without imposing the draconian measures.
. . . .
He made the comments at a House of Lords Science and Technology Committee today during his first public appearance since flouting stay at home rules to have secret trysts with his married mistress last month.

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