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tfan



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PostPosted: 11/19/20 1:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I have to get a COVID-19 test before they will go ahead with a colonoscopy. Apparently they don't go as deep in the nose as they once did:

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Also, our testing centers are now using shorter, less invasive swabs (mid-turbinate) that don't go nearly as far into the nose.


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PostPosted: 11/20/20 10:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Without any explanation as to why, a Spanish study claims people who have groceries delivered have twice the risk of getting COVID-19 versus people who shop at the store. And people with dogs face a 78% higher risk of getting it than those without.

On the other hand a UK study says supermarkets are the most common place to catch COVID-19

So avoid grocery buying to be safest. Hopefully your garage has a few years worth of pasta and pasta sauce stocked up. And hopefully you have a garage.

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The following list is where, according to the PHE data, people were most likely to contract Covid;19:

Supermarket - 18.3%

Secondary school - 12.7%

Primary school - 10.1%

Hospital - 3.6%

Care home - 2.8%

College - 2.4%

Warehouse - 2.2%

Nursery preschool - 1.8%

Pub or bar - 1.6%

Hospitality - 1.5%

University - 1.4%

Manufacture engineering - 1.4%

Household fewer than five - 1.2%

General practice - 1.1%

Gym - 1.1%

Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%


But then again, other studies show that superspreader events are where most of the virus is transmitted

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Many studies now suggest the majority of people with COVID-19 barely pass it on to anyone else, but when infections happen they can be explosive and supercharge an outbreak.

Then the virus can infect "10, 20, 50, or even more people", said Benjamin Althouse, research scientist at the Institute for Disease Modeling.


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PostPosted: 11/21/20 10:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
I have to get a COVID-19 test before they will go ahead with a colonoscopy. Apparently they don't go as deep in the nose as they once did:

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Also, our testing centers are now using shorter, less invasive swabs (mid-turbinate) that don't go nearly as far into the nose.


Sometimes I don’t know if some of you have most bone desert dry sense of humor ever or not.



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PostPosted: 11/21/20 11:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We are now at 195K new cases/day. We are going to hit 12M cases by the end of the day, only 5 days after 11M, which was 6 days after hitting 10M. Percentages of ER visits, positive tests, and hospitalization rates are all up. Unless we take some draconian measures to control community spread, we'll be over 30M total cases by Feb 1st and our hospital system will be in dire straits.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html


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PostPosted: 11/21/20 12:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Without any explanation as to why, a Spanish study claims people who have groceries delivered have twice the risk of getting COVID-19 versus people who shop at the store. And people with dogs face a 78% higher risk of getting it than those without.

On the other hand a UK study says supermarkets are the most common place to catch COVID-19

So avoid grocery buying to be safest. Hopefully your garage has a few years worth of pasta and pasta sauce stocked up. And hopefully you have a garage.

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The following list is where, according to the PHE data, people were most likely to contract Covid;19:

Supermarket - 18.3%

Secondary school - 12.7%

Primary school - 10.1%

Hospital - 3.6%

Care home - 2.8%

College - 2.4%

Warehouse - 2.2%

Nursery preschool - 1.8%

Pub or bar - 1.6%

Hospitality - 1.5%

University - 1.4%

Manufacture engineering - 1.4%

Household fewer than five - 1.2%

General practice - 1.1%

Gym - 1.1%

Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%


But then again, other studies show that superspreader events are where most of the virus is transmitted

Quote:
Many studies now suggest the majority of people with COVID-19 barely pass it on to anyone else, but when infections happen they can be explosive and supercharge an outbreak.

Then the virus can infect "10, 20, 50, or even more people", said Benjamin Althouse, research scientist at the Institute for Disease Modeling.


Of course obtaining groceries is the most common place to catch COVID. Everyone has to eat. Not everyone is involved in a lot of other activities.

I believe that superspreader commentary is true, but the predominant method of transmission is now community spread, followed by exposure at healthcare jobs.


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PostPosted: 11/21/20 12:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

The insanity of it all. Razz

This is amusing, to say the least:
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The following list is where, according to the PHE data, people were most likely to contract Covid;19:

Supermarket - 18.3%

Secondary school - 12.7%

Primary school - 10.1%

Hospital - 3.6%

Care home - 2.8%

College - 2.4%

Warehouse - 2.2%

Nursery preschool - 1.8%

Pub or bar - 1.6%

Hospitality - 1.5%

University - 1.4%

Manufacture engineering - 1.4%

Household fewer than five - 1.2%

General practice - 1.1%

Gym - 1.1%

Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%


A difference between 'college' and 'university'? And what about "Households with more than five"? Shocked



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PostPosted: 11/21/20 9:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
I have to get a COVID-19 test before they will go ahead with a colonoscopy. Apparently they don't go as deep in the nose as they once did:

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Also, our testing centers are now using shorter, less invasive swabs (mid-turbinate) that don't go nearly as far into the nose.


So I did a self something or other. They handed me a swab through the car window. After showing me how much of the handle should go into my nose I was told to swirl it 5 times and "swirl it on the way out", for both noses. He mentioned the "swirl it on the way out" a few times which I was confused by thinking I could have just done more swirling before taking it out, but now I realize that must have been to get contact on the lower part of the nose cavity. But seems like they should just tell you to lower it and then swirl 5 times as that gets a better sample as it is hard to do it well "on the way out".




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PostPosted: 11/21/20 9:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jammerbirdi wrote:
tfan wrote:
I have to get a COVID-19 test before they will go ahead with a colonoscopy. Apparently they don't go as deep in the nose as they once did:

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Also, our testing centers are now using shorter, less invasive swabs (mid-turbinate) that don't go nearly as far into the nose.


Sometimes I don’t know if some of you have most bone desert dry sense of humor ever or not.


I have been accused of having a dry sense of humor before (I think accurately), but I wasn't intentionally trying to be funny there.

By the way jammer, did you happen to come across or be aware of the weekly MAGA rallies they were having in a park in Beverly Hills followed by a march down Rodeo Drive? I was looking at the crowd trying to see if anyone looked like it could be you. Can you confirm or deny whether or not you are MAGA Hulk?



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PostPosted: 11/23/20 9:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I have taken 4 tests since June

I travel home to Boston to help m mother but because she is high risk I always take a test before I go.

The first three times it was the long nasal swab which was similar to ramming a drum stick into your brain, swishing it around for five seconds and then they removed it with some brain tissue attached to test. In June results took seven days, in July 16 (I went and returned before I got the results, I actually got the results when my plane touched down back in NY which kind of defeated the purpose, but need to go out weighed the risk), in September the results took 3 days, but it was so painful I slapped the doctors hand away out of instinct and he had to perform it again so technically two test in one day (full disclosure I am a bad patient and have a low tolerance for pain. I know others who had no problem with test at all).

this past week I took my fourth test (all tests negative by the way) it was the less invasive nasal swab one thousands times better and it was a rapid test so I knew the results fifteen minutes after I received the test. (Only problem now is the lines at CityMD are around the block as opposed to getting in and out in twenty minutes as was the case over the summer).

The first three time I traveled by plane and it was such a ghost town I felt very safe, I actually thought it was more likely I would get infected on the subway ride over than the plane. (I am not a fancy plane person usually but 5 hours on the Greyhound, Peter Pan or the $20 Chinatown bus to Boston just seemed like a death wish during Covid). I just returned today from the fourth time and even though it is being advised not to travel for Thanksgiving I can tell you first hand many people are. I realize that since I was also traveling I am a hypocrite but I am fearful how these next months will play out as it is spiking and it seems while many aren't going to travel many still are. I felt the airlines and most individuals I encountered were all being diligent but the sheer numbers vs my previous trips is what has me a little worried.


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PostPosted: 11/23/20 10:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
jammerbirdi wrote:
tfan wrote:
I have to get a COVID-19 test before they will go ahead with a colonoscopy. Apparently they don't go as deep in the nose as they once did:

Quote:
Also, our testing centers are now using shorter, less invasive swabs (mid-turbinate) that don't go nearly as far into the nose.


Sometimes I don’t know if some of you have most bone desert dry sense of humor ever or not.


I have been accused of having a dry sense of humor before (I think accurately), but I wasn't intentionally trying to be funny there.

By the way jammer, did you happen to come across or be aware of the weekly MAGA rallies they were having in a park in Beverly Hills followed by a march down Rodeo Drive? I was looking at the crowd trying to see if anyone looked like it could be you. Can you confirm or deny whether or not you are MAGA Hulk?



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/01qvQDG1zA0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I have stories. And pictures. That’s all I’ll say for now. Except this. I’ve been a COVID careful paranoid since March. Very careful. So the rallies were a weekly thing yes. But Beverly Hills was the epicenter of a lot of things this summer. So one day, on the corner of Brighton Way and Canon Drive, we’re on Brighton trying to cross Canon. Police motorcycles pull up and block us. We’re the first car, and we’re like WTF? And then this fucking marching army of Trump supporters starts to parade up Canon.

I have a cloth mask I wear from the apartment to the car and I keep it around my neck. I pull it up but other than that COMPLETELY forget that there’s a pandemic going on. The photographer instinct is as irresistible as sex or hunger. So I jump out of the car and start shooting. I’m happier than I’ve been in months. Everyone is festive and I’m down low to get those kinds of shots and then it passes and I get back in the car.

So then I start looking at the pictures. No one is wearing a mask. I mean NO ONE.

And you know, it was just like THAT, in a snap of the fingers, this dumb mother fucker very suddenly remembered that we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Rolling Eyes I’m not going to lie. That was a god-awful creepy moment.

But that was at least two months ago and I’m fine. But that really surprised me. That I still have the capacity to be that reckless is scary.



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PostPosted: 11/23/20 10:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
I have taken 4 tests since June

I travel home to Boston to help m mother but because she is high risk I always take a test before I go.

The first three times it was the long nasal swab which was similar to ramming a drum stick into your brain, swishing it around for five seconds and then they removed it with some brain tissue attached to test. In June results took seven days, in July 16 (I went and returned before I got the results, I actually got the results when my plane touched down back in NY which kind of defeated the purpose, but need to go out weighed the risk), in September the results took 3 days, but it was so painful I slapped the doctors hand away out of instinct and he had to perform it again so technically two test in one day (full disclosure I am a bad patient and have a low tolerance for pain. I know others who had no problem with test at all).

this past week I took my fourth test (all tests negative by the way) it was the less invasive nasal swab one thousands times better and it was a rapid test so I knew the results fifteen minutes after I received the test. (Only problem now is the lines at CityMD are around the block as opposed to getting in and out in twenty minutes as was the case over the summer).

The first three time I traveled by plane and it was such a ghost town I felt very safe, I actually thought it was more likely I would get infected on the subway ride over than the plane. (I am not a fancy plane person usually but 5 hours on the Greyhound, Peter Pan or the $20 Chinatown bus to Boston just seemed like a death wish during Covid). I just returned today from the fourth time and even though it is being advised not to travel for Thanksgiving I can tell you first hand many people are. I realize that since I was also traveling I am a hypocrite but I am fearful how these next months will play out as it is spiking and it seems while many aren't going to travel many still are. I felt the airlines and most individuals I encountered were all being diligent but the sheer numbers vs my previous trips is what has me a little worried.


Daunting stories there. I heard a poll that said something like 65% of Americans think that getting family together on Thanksgiving is worth the risk. Lot a people traveling. I feel for people and what they’re going through and I hope it all turns out in their favor. But wow.



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PostPosted: 11/28/20 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yesterday our new daily case count hit 205K (some of which represents cases that weren't counted on the holiday), but it pushed us over 13M. We're adding 1M new cases every 5-6 days.

Our next superspreader event?
https://deadspin.com/arizona-to-host-massive-soccer-tournament-because-stupi-1845764925


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