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| Posted: 03/24/20 7:59 pm ::: |
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| Since it seems likely that we're all going to get this sooner or later, now I'm wishing I'd gotten sick a month ago, when ICU beds were more readily available. 20/20 hindsight.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 8:01 pm ::: |
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| Since it seems likely that we're all going to get this sooner or later, now I'm wishing I'd gotten sick a month ago, when ICU beds were more readily available. 20/20 hindsight. |
My heart surgery came at just the right time
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| Posted: 03/24/20 8:22 pm ::: |
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| The new poll finds Trump's job approval rating at 49 percent, up from 44 percent in the same survey earlier this month. The 49 percent job approval rating is the high mark for Trump since he came into office. He first hit that mark in late January, shortly before he was acquitted by the Senate in his impeachment trial.. |
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....all of which goes to prove that people's Scaredy-ness is directly proportional to their Stupid-ness.
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Genero36
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| Posted: 03/24/20 8:28 pm ::: |
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| Since it seems likely that we're all going to get this sooner or later, now I'm wishing I'd gotten sick a month ago, when ICU beds were more readily available. 20/20 hindsight. |
My heart surgery came at just the right time |
Same . I had extensive back surgery in January.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 9:09 pm ::: |
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"you're gonna have thousands of suicide"
THE GUY IS A FUCKING MENTAL CASE.
But his polling numbers have gone up.
Says a lot about US citizens, imo.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 9:13 pm ::: |
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"you're gonna have thousands of suicide"
THE GUY IS A FUCKING MENTAL CASE.
But his polling numbers have gone up.
Says a lot about US citizens, imo. |
Like I said, this is what America voted for and we're getting exactly what we deserve.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 9:52 pm ::: |
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| Posted: 03/24/20 11:07 pm ::: |
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An account from a nurse in
Michigan.
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I'm a nurse in a hospital. I live in Michigan where cases are exploding and our Governor has put us under lockdown. Today I went into work where at the beginning of my shift, only certain units were taking Covid cases, and by the end of my shift my entire hospital was taking Covid cases. We are completely overrun. Doctors and nurses are testing positive and falling ill and told to come back to work within two days of fever being gone. My coworkers are being pulled to other hospitals that are even worse off. This is unprecedented. We are NOT getting hazard pay.
You guys, this is bad. BAD BAD BAD. I am eating crow as someone who wanted to believe that things could have silver lining here, but several people coded in my ED today. And there were many YOUNG people coding.
This is bad. PLEASE follow the stay at home guidelines to a T. I could have potentially brought this home to my husband tonight. We are keeping our distance from each other for a while just in case, and wiping down everything and wearing masks.
The media is covering up so much. edit: by this I mean not truly relaying just how bad the situation is for healthcare workers and how exposed we are.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 11:28 pm ::: |
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An account from a nurse in
Michigan.
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I'm a nurse in a hospital. I live in Michigan where cases are exploding and our Governor has put us under lockdown. Today I went into work where at the beginning of my shift, only certain units were taking Covid cases, and by the end of my shift my entire hospital was taking Covid cases. We are completely overrun. Doctors and nurses are testing positive and falling ill and told to come back to work within two days of fever being gone. My coworkers are being pulled to other hospitals that are even worse off. This is unprecedented. We are NOT getting hazard pay.
You guys, this is bad. BAD BAD BAD. I am eating crow as someone who wanted to believe that things could have silver lining here, but several people coded in my ED today. And there were many YOUNG people coding.
This is bad. PLEASE follow the stay at home guidelines to a T. I could have potentially brought this home to my husband tonight. We are keeping our distance from each other for a while just in case, and wiping down everything and wearing masks.
The media is covering up so much. edit: by this I mean not truly relaying just how bad the situation is for healthcare workers and how exposed we are. |
There are stories like this all over social media.
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| Posted: 03/24/20 11:58 pm ::: |
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| What restrictions has Trump instituted (other than non-Americans flying in from China and Europe) that he could release? Seems like the restrictions are state and local. Unless the idea is that he would try and override them. |
Good point. He came up with a list of "recommendations" such as no gatherings more than 10, not restrictions. He closed the borders. Everything else has been done by state and local authorities with no apparent consistent pattern even within states. I suppose he could order state and local communities to stop their restrictions, but I'm not sure that would stick. |
This is a point that few understand, including the media. The federal government does not have police powers, which are reserved to the states under the 10 Amendment. We are a federal republic, a consortium of 50 sovereign states, not a unitary country like most others where the federal goverment is all-controlling.
The president cannot order businesses to shut down, people to stay home, ban groups over a certain size, close beaches, or impose curfews. Only state or local officials can do those things. Nor can the president overturn or open up any of the restrictions imposed by state and local officials. The president can control entry into the country because of his power over immigration.
The other side of this coin is that it's up to each state governor or local officials to decide what to do, or not to do, about this epidemic. The only role of the federal government is to provide recommendations and guidance, money, manpower and available supplies. In addition, the federal goverment can cut regulations that are interfering with local actions, such as nuking the bloated bureaucracy in the elephantine CDC and FDA that initially interfered with effective testing by private industry and laboratories.
The constitutional structure is such that each state must take primary responsibility for management of the problem. |
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| Posted: 03/25/20 1:44 am ::: |
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| Randy wrote: |
| tfan wrote: |
| What restrictions has Trump instituted (other than non-Americans flying in from China and Europe) that he could release? Seems like the restrictions are state and local. Unless the idea is that he would try and override them. |
Good point. He came up with a list of "recommendations" such as no gatherings more than 10, not restrictions. He closed the borders. Everything else has been done by state and local authorities with no apparent consistent pattern even within states. I suppose he could order state and local communities to stop their restrictions, but I'm not sure that would stick. |
This is a point that few understand, including the media. The federal government does not have police powers, which are reserved to the states under the 10 Amendment. We are a federal republic, a consortium of 50 sovereign states, not a unitary country like most others where the federal goverment is all-controlling.
The president cannot order businesses to shut down, people to stay home, ban groups over a certain size, close beaches, or impose curfews. Only state or local officials can do those things. Nor can the president overturn or open up any of the restrictions imposed by state and local officials. The president can control entry into the country because of his power over immigration.
The other side of this coin is that it's up to each state governor or local officials to decide what to do, or not to do, about this epidemic. The only role of the federal government is to provide recommendations and guidance, money, manpower and available supplies. In addition, the federal goverment can cut regulations that are interfering with local actions, such as nuking the bloated bureaucracy in the elephantine CDC and FDA that initially interfered with effective testing by private industry and laboratories.
The constitutional structure is such that each state must take primary responsibility for management of the problem. |
OMG. Advocating to cut funding for the one agency out there telling the truth in the midst of a crisis? Seriously????????????????????????????
And I remind you that it was Cheeto, in his role as occupant of our white house, who TURNED DOWN test kits. This is criminal!
Don't want to hear about whiny baby companies who had to wait to start profiting off this crisis.
WHY the HELL do people (me) have to wait 4-7 days for results when multiple countries can provide results in 4 HOURS.? Right now I care exactly ZERO about how our awesome system will eventually develop ways to reduce that wait time. Why is this supposedly awesome system doing worse than multiple countries in dealing with this crisis?
I remind you that the US leads the world in the rate of increase in Positive results to the COVfefe virus test. This is documented in multiple places. Hope I don't add to that number in a few days.
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| Posted: 03/25/20 3:37 am ::: |
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even with some awareness, we are all still so much in the zone of disbelief.
spain is using ice rinks as morgues.
think about that.
if and when that happens in the u.s., will people be shocked or accept it as just another daily development?
ice rinks. as morgues.
no, really think about that.
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| Posted: 03/25/20 5:39 am ::: |
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For those keeping track, were we promised millions of test kits/testing by now?
Trump has told so many outright lies, as usual, that I don't remember.
Also, are there any Trump supporters here willing to walk off into the sunset for the good of the economy, as per the GOP?
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| Posted: 03/25/20 7:22 am ::: |
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More new symptoms?
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According to Ohio Department of Health Director Dr. Amy Acton, patients who contract COVID-19 are showing new symptoms previously not associated with the virus.
Acton said some of the data, particularly out of Cuyahoga County, show patients exhibiting gastrointestinal upset, more fatigue, and sometimes not showing a fever, in addition to the previous flu-like symptoms. |
https://www.wane.com/news/coronavirus-patients-exhibiting-new-symptoms-ohio-health-director-says/
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| Posted: 03/25/20 7:55 am ::: |
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As New York faces coronavirus 'bullet train,' experts warn of challenges ahead
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“Because you have such a concentrated population in New York City, the virus can spread very readily,” Schaffner said.
Despite a strong hospital system in the state, “they could easily get swamped and just be stretched beyond what their capacity would be,” he added.
Another concern was “the exhaustion of health care workers. We have a finite number of health care workers,” he said. |
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Even with new supplies coming in, de Blasio warned of shortages especially in terms of ventilators as the crisis could continue in the city for months. The federal government is giving 2,000 ventilators to the city, on top of another 400 that were given, but the city is asking for 15,000.
"That'll just get us to the first week of April," he said during a news conference. "Even with this new supply, it doesn't guarantee we'll get through that first week." |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as-new-york-faces-coronavirus-bullet-train-experts-warn-of-challenges-ahead/ar-BB11Eu8z?li=BBnb7Kz
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The agreement capped five straight days of intensive negotiations that occasionally descended into partisan warfare as the nation’s economy reeled from the deadly pandemic, with schools and businesses closed, mass layoffs slamming the workforce and tens of thousands falling ill.
The legislation, unprecedented in its size and scope, aims to flood the economy with capital by sending $1,200 checks to many Americans, creating a $367 billion loan program for small businesses and setting up a $500 billion fund for industries, cities and states.
Other provisions include a massive boost to unemployment insurance, $150 billion for state and local stimulus funds, and $130 billion for hospitals. The bill more than doubled in size in just a few days.
McConnell said the Senate would pass the legislation later Wednesday. With the House out of session, action there could take longer, depending on whether lawmakers can agree to pass the bill by “unanimous consent,” which would require agreement from all members of the chamber. |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-white-house-reach-dollar2-trillion-stimulus-deal-to-blunt-coronavirus-fallout/ar-BB11Dj7d?li=BBnb7Kz
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| Posted: 03/25/20 8:16 am ::: |
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| Nationwide, at least 73 nursing homes and senior care centers have reported infections, according to a Washington Post review published Saturday of reports and announcements from states, local media and nursing homes. At least 55 coronavirus deaths can be linked to such facilities, but the number is likely higher, The Post reported. |
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When Wieder asked to have him tested for COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, the doctor declined, saying he didn’t meet the criteria.
“She said he was not a candidate,” said Wieder, 50. “She kept asking if he’d been to China.”
By late March 15, doctors had reconsidered. Curren was tested, and then moved over to isolation, where medical staff wore protective garb and masks.
Around 10 p.m. that day, the results were back. Wieder said hospital staff called the health department and the assisted living facility to report the positive test results. But they didn’t call her family.
“Six hours later, he died,” she said. “At that point, they did call me.” |
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Wieder is now tasked with preparing her father’s funeral.
“We’re going to do something very private and very meaningful,” she said. |
https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-assisted-living-centers-richard-curren-florida
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