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PostPosted: 02/29/20 8:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

T Young would be a good addition to the Suns to shore up their bench. I could see her back in Atlanta as well. Depending on cap space....



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 9:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I doubt she signs with a non-contender unless the money's good.


That was Banham’s mindset.

TYoung is in the Bentley boat. She’ll go where she can get a job.



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Very Happy ok, not exactly a T.Young defender here as you all know. But she has made herself into a useful bench player. Her offense has improved, albeit marginally, but her defense has also improved. I could see her playing for a team that has a defensively weak three so she could come in and work at shutting down an opponent who is going off.



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 1:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Agreed with myrtle on this one. T. Young came up big a few times for the aces in the playoffs. I think she gets a job before Bentley. Her defensive skills cannot be ignored.



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 5:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Very Happy ok, not exactly a T.Young defender here as you all know. But she has made herself into a useful bench player. Her offense has improved, albeit marginally, but her defense has also improved. I could see her playing for a team that has a defensively weak three so she could come in and work at shutting down an opponent who is going off.


Sounds like the Dream to me. Stricklen is not much of a defender and Hayes is undersized for the 3 position. Plus. some nights she can hit her shots when nobody is watching her.



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 7:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UPDATE

Remaining list.

CORE PLAYERS
Tina Charles (NYL)

RESERVED PLAYERS
Anna Cruz (MIN) - not playing in 2020, injured.
Temi Fagbenle (MIN)
Reshanda Gray (NYL)
Sonja Petrovic (PHX)
Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe (NYL)
Angel Robinson (PHX)
Marianna Tolo (LAS)
Marta Xargay (PHX)

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Liz Cambage (LVA)
Jamierra Faulkner (CHI) - not playing in 2020

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Alex Bentley
Essence Carson
Ana Dabovic
Brooke McCarty-Williams
Kim Mestdagh
Tamera Young
Shavonte Zellous

It was interesting to hear via Twitter last week that Zellous has several offers and yet, a week later, hasn't been signed. Really surprised Carson hasn't been picked up by someone yet.



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 9:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Very Happy ok, not exactly a T.Young defender here as you all know. But she has made herself into a useful bench player. Her offense has improved, albeit marginally, but her defense has also improved. I could see her playing for a team that has a defensively weak three so she could come in and work at shutting down an opponent who is going off.


Sounds like the Dream to me. Stricklen is not much of a defender and Hayes is undersized for the 3 position. Plus. some nights she can hit her shots when nobody is watching her.


Would be interesting if she played for the same team 3 times.



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PostPosted: 02/29/20 9:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It was interesting to hear via Twitter last week that Zellous has several offers and yet, a week later, hasn't been signed. Really surprised Carson hasn't been picked up by someone yet.

If Zellous has offers (plural), surely Young has at least more than two. Though we also don’t know the quality of said offers. Still, who would give Zellous even non-guaranteed vet min at this point? At some point, an entry-level rookie is the better option. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 02/29/20 9:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The offers could be "hey if you want to come to training camp, that's fine with us....."



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PostPosted: 03/01/20 1:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The offers could be "hey if you want to come to training camp, that's fine with us....."


I wouldn't mind if Young stopped by the Fever for a year or two. Her toughness and defensive mindset could help the youngsters in that direction.


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PostPosted: 03/01/20 8:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The 'offers' could also be "Hey Mo, tell everyone that I've got loads of offers coming in so that some of these teams remember I exist." Wink



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PostPosted: 03/04/20 11:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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What's that supposed to mean? Reeve now hates vets too so she ran Augustus out of town? Or Seimone is too emotional over nothing?


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PostPosted: 03/04/20 11:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That's a weird one. Was she expecting them to wine and dine her or something? Did they offer more money than LA but still sub-max and she took that as an insult? She was a free agent who's been with the franchise for 14 years. They were offering her more money than her play is probably worth at this point. And she's certainly aware of what kind of person Cheryl Reeve is by now and seems to have got along fine with it for a decade.

By all means make your own decisions and go to LA if that's what you want, but that's a strange parting shot.



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Maybe the Lynx first offer was a low ball number, which LA beat. Damage done, so even a bigger offer didn't placate her.



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PostPosted: 03/04/20 11:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Maybe the Lynx first offer was a low ball number, which LA beat. Damage done, so even a bigger offer didn't placate her.


I don't know why the Lynx would need to "lowball" her, especially if she's only playing for one year/one year at a time? Though I could see the Lynx waiting to see if they were going to land any of the big FAs first before coming up with a precise amount to offer.


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This has been the best off-season ever!

I don't know what's better? The actual signings or the tweets that ensue Shocked Laughing Surprised


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PostPosted: 03/04/20 12:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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This has been the best off-season ever!

I don't know what's better? The actual signings or the tweets that ensue Shocked Laughing Surprised


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Iluvacc wrote:
This has been the best off-season ever!

I don't know what's better? The actual signings or the tweets that ensue Shocked Laughing Surprised


+1


+2. Tea has been piping.



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PostPosted: 03/04/20 12:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Randy wrote:
Maybe the Lynx first offer was a low ball number, which LA beat. Damage done, so even a bigger offer didn't placate her.


I don't know why the Lynx would need to "lowball" her, especially if she's only playing for one year/one year at a time? Though I could see the Lynx waiting to see if they were going to land any of the big FAs first before coming up with a precise amount to offer.


Since we still have to speculate with neither Reeve or Augustus totally coming clean about the situation, I’m going to guess Reeve wanted both Augustus and DRob to wait around to see how free agency shook out for the Lynx until they could define their roles and corresponding salaries for those roles. In other words, the Lynx were looking for better options as starters. If they didn’t want to wait around to see how things shook out, then so be it. They were free to test the market. That’s what they did, and they were both able to find jobs in free agency. Again, my speculation, but it makes more sense than anything I’ve heard so far.



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Since we still have to speculate with neither Reeve or Augustus totally coming clean about the situation, I’m going to guess Reeve wanted both Augustus and DRob to wait around to see how free agency shook out for the Lynx until they could define their roles and corresponding salaries for those roles. In other words, the Lynx were looking for better options as starters. If they didn’t want to wait around to see how things shook out, then so be it. They were free to test the market. That’s what they did, and they were both able to find jobs in free agency. Again, my speculation, but it makes more sense than anything I’ve heard so far.


Even if it's the most sensible theory, the idea of leaving a team over being so distraught over a chance you might not start, to take less money to be 100% guaranteed not to start still seems kind of funny to me.


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That's a weird one. Was she expecting them to wine and dine her or something? Did they offer more money than LA but still sub-max and she took that as an insult?


My WAG is that it's probably closer to the former than the latter. I don't think that Augustus necessarily expected to be "wined and dined," but it seems probable to me that she felt like the organization was taking her for granted, in some way.



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Even if it's the most sensible theory, the idea of leaving a team over being so distraught over a chance you might not start, to take less money to be 100% guaranteed not to start still seems kind of funny to me.


All other factors being equal, most people want to be wanted. Even if the Sparks were explicit about her not starting, they pretty clearly seemed to communicate that they wanted her there, and they thought she could help them win. Whereas, reading between the lines in Minnesota, @Shades' theory does indeed seem the most likely, and that the Lynx were leaving her hanging, to see whether or not they could get somebody better. For a player who has been to a franchise what Augustus has been to the Lynx, I think that she'd be in the right to be offended.



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Since we still have to speculate with neither Reeve or Augustus totally coming clean about the situation, I’m going to guess Reeve wanted both Augustus and DRob to wait around to see how free agency shook out for the Lynx until they could define their roles and corresponding salaries for those roles. In other words, the Lynx were looking for better options as starters. If they didn’t want to wait around to see how things shook out, then so be it. They were free to test the market. That’s what they did, and they were both able to find jobs in free agency. Again, my speculation, but it makes more sense than anything I’ve heard so far.


Even if it's the most sensible theory, the idea of leaving a team over being so distraught over a chance you might not start, to take less money to be 100% guaranteed not to start still seems kind of funny to me.


I doubt DRob was distraught about not starting. She was already used to it with the Lynx. For her it was a just a matter of finding a job, and it worked out very well for her. Probably a better contract than she would have gotten with the Lynx, with more of a contending team (at least for this year).

For Augustus, she was probably getting up in her feelings because of how long she’s been with the Lynx. With this new CBA being a factor along with her decline in performance/health, this was probably the first time in 14 years that Augustus saw the business realty side of the Lynx over the “we are a family” Lynx.



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Richyyy wrote:
That's a weird one. Was she expecting them to wine and dine her or something? Did they offer more money than LA but still sub-max and she took that as an insult? She was a free agent who's been with the franchise for 14 years. They were offering her more money than her play is probably worth at this point. And she's certainly aware of what kind of person Cheryl Reeve is by now and seems to have got along fine with it for a decade.

By all means make your own decisions and go to LA if that's what you want, but that's a strange parting shot.


I am by no means addressing this comment to you specifically, however, I do find it interesting to hear this when it happens to Minnesota, but when it's Dallas, EVERYBODY rips the organization a new one and instantly sides with whichever player it is who happens to be butt hurt over some shit or in their damn feelings about not getting their ass kissed at any given moment and demands a trade!

Oh well, maybe it's just me😒


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